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MadMax · 2005-12-02, 11:35 PM

My "Discussion on Blind Links" thread ended up being a great resource, and I'd like to start another one on Blacklisting

I don't think I need to write a book to start this one

, but let's hear it from the LL owners here...why do YOU blacklist submitters. I'd like to hear the full scope of reasons.

I do NOT, I repeat,

I DO NOT WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A THREAD FULL OF PEOPLE BITCHING THAT THE BLACKLIST STANDARDS OF OTHERS ARE SOMEHOW UNFAIR OR UNREASONABLE

I don't expect anyone to change their standards (I won't), I'd just like to get a lively discussion going on why we blacklist. I think it could be a great resource for the submitters here.

I also don't expect anyone to share HOW they determine a submitter is committing some of the common blacklistable offenses like multisubmitting and autosubmitting. Don't want all the trade secrets to slip out

I should probably start by saying that there are lots of things that I'll just decline for the first 3...or 5...or 10 times I see them. If I see the same mistakes coming in from the same submitters constantly and they can't even bother to come over here to my thread and raise their hands to ask why (there's a link in my decline email), they're either auto-submitting (which is a blacklistable offense) or they just can't be bothered to build quality sites or pay attention to their decline emails...which means I can't be bothered to review their sites. When I'm talking about these types of things below I'll just say "see above" in the explanation I give.

My Top Blacklist Reasons:

--Proxy IPs. Some ISPs give people proxy IPs by default, but when that's the case they're almost identical except for the last one or two octets (which are usually similar). A proxy IP totally different from your actual IP (I can see both) means you're doing it on purpose. I can even your see Anonymous Proxies and Highly Anonymous Proxies. I can't see through them, but I can see them standing there in front of you. If you're hiding where you're from, you're probably hiding more than that.

--Shameful overuse of templates (see above)

--Constant and shameless submissions full of blind links (see above)

--Same Recip Used For All Submissions. I have category recips, as well as most other LLs. For some reason some submitters who aren't even autosubmitting seem to think that they can get the right category recip for their first site and use it for every site submitted to every category. They are wrong. First few times is a decline, then I'm done.

--Multisubmitting. I think it's important to specifically define multisubmitting here. I accept more than one submit a day as long as the sites/cats vary from one to the next. This is why I get really pissed when I catch someone submitting with multiple emails. If you're using multiple identities, you're hiding something.

--Autosubmitting. I spend more time reviewing your site than you'd spend submitting it hunt-and-peck. Form filling assistants are fine, but make sure they're filling the forms right.

--Sites Redirecting After Submission. Do this and you're a cheater, plain and simple. If you have to pull sites, 404 them and DO NOT send your 404 traffic to a sponsor tour on your free site domains.

--Recips Removed After APPROVAL. This one REALLY pisses me off. If I can find out who your mother is I'll blacklist her too for raising you that way. If I decline your sites please feel free to remove my recip if you choose, but your time is better spent figuring out why you were declined and correcting the issue in the future.

--Sponsor Built Galleries As Gallery Pages (see above)

That's all from me for now, and it seems that's Chapter One

Anyone else? Bueller?...Bueller?

2005-12-02, 11:35 PM	#1
MadMax "Without evil there can be no good, so it must be good to be evil sometimes" ~ Satan Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Motor City, baby, where carjacking was invented! Now GIMME THOSE SHOES! Posts: 2,385	Why Submitters Get Blacklisted My "Discussion on Blind Links" thread ended up being a great resource, and I'd like to start another one on Blacklisting I don't think I need to write a book to start this one , but let's hear it from the LL owners here...why do YOU blacklist submitters. I'd like to hear the full scope of reasons. I do NOT, I repeat, I DO NOT WANT THIS TO TURN INTO A THREAD FULL OF PEOPLE BITCHING THAT THE BLACKLIST STANDARDS OF OTHERS ARE SOMEHOW UNFAIR OR UNREASONABLE I don't expect anyone to change their standards (I won't), I'd just like to get a lively discussion going on why we blacklist. I think it could be a great resource for the submitters here. I also don't expect anyone to share HOW they determine a submitter is committing some of the common blacklistable offenses like multisubmitting and autosubmitting. Don't want all the trade secrets to slip out I should probably start by saying that there are lots of things that I'll just decline for the first 3...or 5...or 10 times I see them. If I see the same mistakes coming in from the same submitters constantly and they can't even bother to come over here to my thread and raise their hands to ask why (there's a link in my decline email), they're either auto-submitting (which is a blacklistable offense) or they just can't be bothered to build quality sites or pay attention to their decline emails...which means I can't be bothered to review their sites. When I'm talking about these types of things below I'll just say "see above" in the explanation I give. My Top Blacklist Reasons: --Proxy IPs. Some ISPs give people proxy IPs by default, but when that's the case they're almost identical except for the last one or two octets (which are usually similar). A proxy IP totally different from your actual IP (I can see both) means you're doing it on purpose. I can even your see Anonymous Proxies and Highly Anonymous Proxies. I can't see through them, but I can see them standing there in front of you. If you're hiding where you're from, you're probably hiding more than that. --Shameful overuse of templates (see above) --Constant and shameless submissions full of blind links (see above) --Same Recip Used For All Submissions. I have category recips, as well as most other LLs. For some reason some submitters who aren't even autosubmitting seem to think that they can get the right category recip for their first site and use it for every site submitted to every category. They are wrong. First few times is a decline, then I'm done. --Multisubmitting. I think it's important to specifically define multisubmitting here. I accept more than one submit a day as long as the sites/cats vary from one to the next. This is why I get really pissed when I catch someone submitting with multiple emails. If you're using multiple identities, you're hiding something. --Autosubmitting. I spend more time reviewing your site than you'd spend submitting it hunt-and-peck. Form filling assistants are fine, but make sure they're filling the forms right. --Sites Redirecting After Submission. Do this and you're a cheater, plain and simple. If you have to pull sites, 404 them and DO NOT send your 404 traffic to a sponsor tour on your free site domains. --Recips Removed After APPROVAL. This one REALLY pisses me off. If I can find out who your mother is I'll blacklist her too for raising you that way. If I decline your sites please feel free to remove my recip if you choose, but your time is better spent figuring out why you were declined and correcting the issue in the future. --Sponsor Built Galleries As Gallery Pages (see above) That's all from me for now, and it seems that's Chapter One Anyone else? Bueller?...Bueller?