[Mattinblack]

Thanks Dave... funnily enough I am actually making $$... odd that. In fact from 3 programs I run that have been going for 3 years plus I am making more $$$ than when I was a professional engineering manager so it just goes to show eh?

Not all of what I do is on display here, remember I have been doing this on and off for quite a while. I never joined the regular online community here B4 though I lurked for ages under another ID simply because I was doing fine with what I was doing and saw no reason to go 'conventional'. My more recent sites I am not putting too much effort into as yet simply because the 'sandbox effect' does not warrant it and though I did look at buying traffic the two 10K trials I did on one of my old sites convinced me it was a waste of time. I will simply wait for them to mature search engine wise and tinker with them over the next six months while I lay down the foundation for network2 once I decide where I am going with that.

I am looking at maybe doubling my income by adding a second network to the first and I am toying with doing it 'conventionally' simply on the basis it may not be such hard work though, I cannot say till I have gained some experience doing it 'your way'.

If you look for a couple of large sites that generate a lot of traffic and you dont know who owns them because they dont trade traffic outside my network1 sites then maybe you can figure out what I run and why my network1 is split between Porn and non-porn sites. If you can figure out how I actually extract $$ from those surfers then I will send you on a free holiday to Hawaii because its not obvious and nobody (least of all the surfers) have figured it out yet, hence my reticence in talking about network1 since I need a LOT of circulating traffic for it to work and dont want any competition. In fact most of what I do with network1 nowadays is watch for traffic leaks and try to plug them.

I stopped lurking because I figured it was about time I gave something back to the community which over the two years I have been here (since recieving an email from a member of this board who does know something of my business) has taught me a reasonable amount. In fact it was an innocent question posted by a Newbie here on one of my first visits that set me thinking and led to my getting my first network really generating cash as opposed to 1/1000 conversions.

Occasionally over the last year or so I have helped people on this board in one way or another, even taken on some little jobs for some of them, charging way less than I ought (including the figure 0) for no other reason than I feel like it. In short I am an individualist. If rules are there I will comply with them to the extent I think they should be complied with . Sometimes that gets me into trouble, sometimes that gets me nowhere, but surprisingly often it makes me $$$.

Hell I will continue spouting till somebody kicks me off the board. If thats an invitation for a ban then so be it. I will just go back to lurking under my old ID.