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McSpike · 2003-08-30, 06:03 AM

DD, haha, sorry mate, nothing personal, just used your domain as an example (and it did the trick). It upset you as much as it would me if anyone pulled this kind of dirty trick in REAL on me with Google. I wouldn't be pissed at the one who pulled the trick - world is full of this kind of tricks when a lot of money is on the table. I'd be so pissed at Google for being an idiots for implementing a system that can harm innocent sites that easy. And because this could be abused the way I described I am sure Google doesn't do it at all! You can rest peacefully no one will kick you down with that. Besides if it was possible only not so smart people wouldn't figure this one out on themselves, so I pointed out nothing new. I wanted to point out the dangers of such a banning, which, I am 200% sure, Google is aware of. Btw, my domain is planetclimax.com and if anyone has WPG, go ahead. I am top ten for "free sex galleries" "free galleries" "sex galleries". Lets prove a point - you can't ban a domain with WPG with position checking only. Google can't figure out what domain's position you are checking because what WPG does is only fetches SERPs on Google and then does the analysis internaly. For checking your position MANUALLY for any keyword you don't need to tell Google your domain. Only thing it needs is the keyword. Then you can count which spot you are on. WPG and all the rest of the programs do the same. When they fetch first 1000 results or whatever they are set to check they check for your domain's position internaly and make analysis on your computer - nothing is passed back to Google. So Google can't find out which domain is yours. And if it did, think what could be done if evil webmasters start using this stuff to hurt you? Google is smart. MANY spam complaints go unheard. It's because Google won't just ban anyone reported, but will only do it to the obvious idiots. Otherwise I could set up some nasty shit and point it to some domain I want to ban (ok not me personaly, just an example here

) and Google would bite the bait. Not gonna happen

Btw, I don't pull dirty tricks on my competition, never did, never will - I try to beat it by beaing smarter - not that I am smart SEO - yet. I think Sebastian is way smarter, but I just don't completely agree with what he said. That's why I replied as I thought we can make it a constructive debate. I hope we still can

I hope someone can prove me wrong or right so I won't be satisfied with my answers only.

2003-08-30, 06:03 AM	#9
McSpike I'm going to the backseat of my car with the woman I love, and I won't be back for TEN MINUTES Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 83	DD, haha, sorry mate, nothing personal, just used your domain as an example (and it did the trick). It upset you as much as it would me if anyone pulled this kind of dirty trick in REAL on me with Google. I wouldn't be pissed at the one who pulled the trick - world is full of this kind of tricks when a lot of money is on the table. I'd be so pissed at Google for being an idiots for implementing a system that can harm innocent sites that easy. And because this could be abused the way I described I am sure Google doesn't do it at all! You can rest peacefully no one will kick you down with that. Besides if it was possible only not so smart people wouldn't figure this one out on themselves, so I pointed out nothing new. I wanted to point out the dangers of such a banning, which, I am 200% sure, Google is aware of. Btw, my domain is planetclimax.com and if anyone has WPG, go ahead. I am top ten for "free sex galleries" "free galleries" "sex galleries". Lets prove a point - you can't ban a domain with WPG with position checking only. Google can't figure out what domain's position you are checking because what WPG does is only fetches SERPs on Google and then does the analysis internaly. For checking your position MANUALLY for any keyword you don't need to tell Google your domain. Only thing it needs is the keyword. Then you can count which spot you are on. WPG and all the rest of the programs do the same. When they fetch first 1000 results or whatever they are set to check they check for your domain's position internaly and make analysis on your computer - nothing is passed back to Google. So Google can't find out which domain is yours. And if it did, think what could be done if evil webmasters start using this stuff to hurt you? Google is smart. MANY spam complaints go unheard. It's because Google won't just ban anyone reported, but will only do it to the obvious idiots. Otherwise I could set up some nasty shit and point it to some domain I want to ban (ok not me personaly, just an example here ) and Google would bite the bait. Not gonna happen Btw, I don't pull dirty tricks on my competition, never did, never will - I try to beat it by beaing smarter - not that I am smart SEO - yet. I think Sebastian is way smarter, but I just don't completely agree with what he said. That's why I replied as I thought we can make it a constructive debate. I hope we still can I hope someone can prove me wrong or right so I won't be satisfied with my answers only.