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Old 2006-07-28, 08:39 AM   #12
WarBot
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Hi, I want to add some more comments about auto-submitting. I went and got a months worth of a popular auto-submitter and I have some things I want to share.

I submitted 3 movie galleries total over the page week.
http://www.fastfreeporno.com/july/26-susana-spears-ix3/
http://www.fastfreeporno.com/july/28-taylor-zl3/
http://www.fastfreeporno.com/july/29-crystal-a89/

The dates the galleries were submitted are july 26, july 27, july 28 (today).

The first thing I noticed is that most of the big tgp's require a partner account, either paid or free. Free partner accounts at big tgp's usually require you to give examples that are listed on other big tgp's.

Out of the 2000+ advertised tgp's about half of them require a partner account to submit. If you examine alot of those partner only tgp's most of them get very little traffic.

So without partner accounts you are looking at about 1000 tgp's. Then you figure in the niche specific tgp's, the ones that have your nameserver (your host...) blacklisted, the ones that are fake, the ones who have words such as "pre" and "te" banned, and the ones that have submit form errors and you come up with about 500 tgp's to submit to. Most of those tgp's are very small sending less than 5 visitors (usually zero), a few send over 50 and even fewer send over 100. My 1st gallery (http://www.fastfreeporno.com/july/26-susana-spears-ix3/) has recieved about 400 visitors so far.

Blacklistings... I have been blacklisted by at least 1 tgp (probably more after this post). My guess is that the script submitted to an incorrect category and the reviewer was having a bad day. But I really dont know why... After going through the submit logs I noticed my last "toying" gallery was submitted to a couple gay and lesbian only niche sites so there may be more blacklisting on the way.

My conclusion, auto-submitting isnt a good solution for a tgp submitter. A better solution would be to submit by hand to the larger tgp's and try to get some partner accounts and develop some trust with them. I dont think there is an easy route or a quick fix that can replace patience, hard work and trust.

Everyones results will be different than mine. I did only submit 3 galleries but I spent some time reading through the auto-submitters webmaster forum and I believe that my results are pretty common. There were even a few comments from long time auto-submitters that said that its not worth the time and effort to use an auto-submitter anymore.

Yep, I know this will put me in a bad light with some webmasters. I did use an auto-submitter and Im not offering any excuses about it. I wanted to make some money and I took what I thought was an easy or a quick fix route. You can draw your own conclusions about me. I didnt see the harm originally, but I think I learned a few important things from my experience and I wanted to pass them along. One being that there IS a reason webmasters dont like auto-submitters (inacurate submissions and you have to cheat to make any money with it) and another is that there are no quick fixes to replace hard work and developing trust with the site owners.

And thats it.

Thanks,
WB
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