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To use those two examples
The second one seems to have some linking issues using www. vs not using www - but definitely not banned by Google - they have 340 pages including the index page listed
The first one looks like a similar issue - and again Google has most of their pages indexed - they do have either a programming error thats causing some dupes in frames or something on their server side not working correctly but other than that they are not banned either.
Both sites have a cache date for their index pages within the last week so Google is obviously botting them pretty well
In the years since Google started I have only seen one link list actually get banned - and that was due to some log spamming they were doing - and we all pulled links to them and no ill effects to anyone else
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