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Old 2007-05-22, 02:57 PM   #72
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I'll connect the dots one more time, then I'm done. Mainstream is at a similar standstill, but they're fighting over paid links - they've graduated from link trades long time ago.

In the end, you'll believe what's easiest for you to believe. But you know you'll never outrank Penisbot by copycatting their SEO tactics. It's a catch up race and you're a few years too late.

All I'm saying is you can beat the big boys with less work if you think creatively.

Since Big Daddy, Google is no longer passing full link value on every link it finds. Google evaluates trust on a per domain, directory, url, page-component level to decide how much value each link passes. Before Big Daddy, if a link pointed to a page, PageRank calculation was pretty straight forward - it depended on number of links on a page and the PageRank of the linking page. It's no longer that simple.

If Google doesn't trust you, Google devalues IBLs pointing at your domain. That doesn't necessarily mean a penalty or a ban. It means that when it used to take 10 links to rank 1st for a term, now it'll take 30 links to get the job done.

How do you gain trust? By linking out editorially and having people link to your site without you asking for them. When Google sees a pattern of links being planted on your sites and on other sites that point at your site, Google will trust you less.

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This is one of the things I was trying to get at with my recent posts about networks.
The adult niche is in a bad neighborhood not because of topic. Matt Cutts himself admitted Google can't tell the difference between quality adult sites and spam. He asked Tony Comstock for suggestions because he thought Google needed to do a better job of separating the two. But he wasn't sure what signals of quality they could use to accomplish that goal:
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Dear Tony,

I worked on Google’s SafeSearch filter years ago, so I know that distinguishing between the “good porn” sites compared to the “regular porn” sites is a hard
problem.
I used to be able to reel off names like Jane’s Guide, Persian Kitty, The Hun, Greenguy, Luke Ford, etc. These days I haven’t worked on porn-related stuff in years, so I’m less familiar with the space compared to how I used to be.

In fact, I’d be curious to hear your take on what several the highest-quality porn-related sites would be these days. I’m familiar with stuff like fleshbot.com or nerve.com, but less so with sites like tiny nibbles or erosblog.com.
Why are adult sites in a bad neighborhood? Spammy linking patterns that dictate how every adult site links to each other. That pulls every site down to the same playing field. Each link in the adult niche is worth pennies to the dollar. Why do you think LOR and Penisbot, two authority LLs that's been online for years, are only TBPR 5?

Massive link devaluation.

Why is LOR and penisbot still ranking high? Because they are not competing against mainstream sites. They're competing against other sites in the same neighborhood with the same, spammy link profiles. In that game, they win, because they have many more links than you do and your IBLs are no better quality-wise than theirs.

Penisbot also profits from the the rich get richer phenomenon. Sites that rank high in search results gain organic links much faster than unbranded sites that rank deep in the SERPs. I've experienced this. Just by ranking #1 for a search term, people link to me, and people who read those sites link to me, and so on, till I got a ton of links pointing to a page without running a single trade. And because of those links, my site remains #1. More importantly, those organic links make those domains more trustworthy.

DMOZ/Yahoo Directory links also prove that those domains are not spam.

More trust means more value per inbound link. Multiply that by a few hundred thousand and you get a huge boost from even a slight upward movement in the TrustRank of a domain. With complete trust, IBLs pass their full link value.

Finally, a site like Penisbot with high link velocity has an advantage over sites that gain links at a slower pace. A LL that accepts 100 free site submissions a day has higher link velocity than a LL that accepts 10 free sites a day. You can improve ranking just by increasing your site's link velocity.

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I'm not telling you not to spam search engines. I'm not telling you black hat SEO is bad. I'm saying you can outrank the big boys without spending month after month collecting free site recips if you exploit Google's new algorithm instead of fighting against it.
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