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Originally Posted by CaptainJSparrow
I'm probably the least savy wm here when it comes to tube sites. The little that I know about them is:
1) Most of the content is stolen from the paysites, not submitted by surfers
2) Tube sites make their $$$ from promoting AFF, Fling, and Live Chat..and the dating sites make their $$$ by scamming with Cross Sales (which MC has just basically killed, and hopefully VISA will follow suit).
I have some questions that some of you may know the answer to and be willing to share:
1) With AFF desperately trying to do an IPO (kinda hard for any company with the recession and I'd imagine exponentially harder for a failing adult site) and losing the ability Cross Sell, hence losing funds, and the ability to pay the tube sites...does this spell the end of tube sites?
2) How did the tube sites get such massive backlinks...the ones that I've seen at the top of Google had 300k+ backlinks. Who's trading with these fuckers? Are they scamming Google and the other engines that rely on backlinks as part of their ranking protocols, by artificially increasing their backlinks? If so, how?
CJS
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You sir are a twit.
1) On most of the larger tube sites most of the content is "nowadays bought DVD content" from producers, yes they still contain alot of illegal videos but they harbor under the safe haven of DMCA (which is 100% legal!), until rights holder tells them to take them down they are entitled to keep them on their site. THAT IS THE LAW!
2) You would be surprised how much traffic & sales a tube site can send from one full length video, it is alot more than 99.9% of TGP,MGP or LinkLists can hope to send in a single day. As well as the amount of trafic which gets your "brand" out there. You would be surprised how many "trusted" companies are working with these sites.
3) AFF don't deperately need an IPO, if you even knew how stock markets works you would realise AFF is not in trouble, infact it is Penthouse who owe the debt to the previous owners, worst comes to worse the previous owners pursue the debts and take control of AFF + Penthouse (wow !)
4) Viral marketing is the key, they give people the tools to simply embed their videos onto other sites, which means tons of other "webmasters" promote their brand. This plus the massive amounts of traffic + easy access content make it very easy to grow way faster than any TGP/MGP/Paysite/Linklist could ever do.
also anyone who believes tubes will go bankrupt via hosting costs are just crazy, when you run that amount of bandwidth through a host the discounts are MASSIVE, simply because the amount of extra bandwidth you run through the system allows the host to barter for better prices.
simple, they are here to stay.... if the MPAA & RIAA cannot get rid of sites like surfthechannel, how do you expect porn companies to get rid of sites like redtube, porntube, keez, pornhub etc etc..... It is never going to happen...