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Originally posted by Tommy
Bill look at this... He dont know whats goin on but hes ready to send out dmca notices
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Tommy, I agree with what I think is your main point, which is that Torn shouldn't have been offering hosted galleries if he didn't understand TGP and how they would be used.
In my personal opinion, Torn made several BIG DUMB mistakes. He's going to pay for those mistakes, and he and other sponsors are going to have to clarify their terms because of this.
I don't know Torn, and I don't promote his program. I don't approve of what he did, how he handled the problem.
But I UNDERSTAND what he did. He thought he found a new affiliate using his content for criminal purposes.
He over-reacted. You and I can see that. But he thought he was just defending himself.
It was an unintended consequence that Kloot got deleted so quickly. If he hadn't been hosted on a criminal freehost he would almost certainly still be in business today.
I haven't read Torn's Terms and Conditions, I have no idea what they allow. I agree Torn over-reacted, and went to the cheater board and the DMCA attack too quickly.
But put yourself in his shoes for a second. You check on a new affiliate and the guy's page gives you THREE virus alarms. I think you'd be dammed pissed too. I know I would be.
Then it's Torn's bad luck that on top of the toolbars, he doesn't happen to know about the skim, so he thinks he's being ripped off by a double cheater.
And that starts this whole comedy of errors in motion.
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I also took and good HARD look at his submits at Tommys. I feel have a GOOD DEPENDABLE way of figuring out who is a cheat and who isnt and Kloot passed easley
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Tommy, I know your system is possibly the best there is, so that's a solid gold endorsement. If I implied that Kloot was responsible for the toolbars, I apologize, based on your endorsement.
It doesn't explain quite why Kloot didn't know his page was autodownloading. Of course I got lots of pages I haven't checked in months myself. Maybe Kloot had a cookie that kept the page from downloading to him.
And, I want to acknowledge again that we only have Torn's word that the page was trying to infect him. Torn might have been mistaken.
I expect Torn will speak up soon to clarify his terms and his actions.