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Torn Rose · 2004-08-16, 10:54 PM

Hi everyone, sorry we been at Internext since Thursday and the connection there was crappy at best, so I will try and catch up.

I do find it interesting that so many are upset that I called someone a “little piss ant”. Was it professional? No, but in the grand scheme of this thread does it matter? Who here hasn’t seen far worse over far less?

I also find it interesting that people are making comments and then coming back later and admit that they have not read everything.

Have I made mistakes over this? Maybe I have. Am I sorry? No I am not. Will I do things differently in the future? Yes I will.

Most of you still do not understand the lives of those with personal Amateur Sites; we live this 24/7. It’s a much different world when it’s you and your wife/husband in front of the camera. When the only thing you have is your image and reputation to keep your members you will go out of your way to make sure you are not misrepresented in any way. And we are VERY protective of our members as well as our image and reputation with them.

Everyone wants to point out I know nothing of the TGP world, that is not entirely true, I do know some things of it, and yes I did know and have always known “skimming” or "CJ" takes place, but I have only seen one thumb tgp which was just a few months ago and he didn’t skim, and since I do not surf tgp sites this was “new” to me.

I have been to so many sites over the last 4 years and not once have I had any affiliate site set off my Norton. The only sites that has EVER set off my Norton are the thieves who stole my images and put on all their links to whatever crap and sent them to popup hell (and even a few illegal sites) just to make $. And most of those who have done this were from Russia, Romania and other countries outside the US…. even the UK. So when I saw the Norton, and when I saw the “skimming” and when I saw the “who is” being in the UK I thought I saw the same shit I have seen over and over for the past 4 years.

I will still offer TGP’s to those who want to use them, if you do not want to use them, no hard feelings here, I understand. As I have also stated prior, I have every right to say how my content is used and I would like to mention that a new design and setup for KatCash is being worked on and should be done by end of the month, and for the first time in 4 years I will be adding a TOS.

I am amazed that I have started something that turned into this, last I saw, this was on 4 message boards, and from reading the post’s here and at one other board I have no problem with everyone jumping on the bandwagon to “ban Torn” since it is so apparent they have not read the whole story, but just responding to what they heard or what they wanted to read.

No matter what people, this would have never been a thread if I did not get 3 Norton warnings. Total time I would have spent on that site if it had no Norton warnings would not have been enough for me to click on anything since I just wanted to see the site, nothing more. If it was his or his friends or whoever’s fault that my Norton was set off I really don’t care. It was set off. I saw my content, and with my past experience of stolen content being used I terminated the account.

It is not my fault that so many of you are worried I will set a precedent on the use of content that you do not own the copyright on is being used. I did what I thought was in my best interest as I always have. What all the major affiliate sites do is not up to me; I have not and will not start a movement with them or anyone for starting new rules on the TOS for all tgp sites to end skimming. How people want to make their money is their business.

So many have chimed in on this, not many who have posted are even my affiliates, so going out of your way to tell me that you have never made me $ and will never make me $ is really a waste of your time, but if you feel the need feel free.

2004-08-16, 10:54 PM	#10
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Hi everyone, sorry we been at Internext since Thursday and the connection there was crappy at best, so I will try and catch up. I do find it interesting that so many are upset that I called someone a “little piss ant”. Was it professional? No, but in the grand scheme of this thread does it matter? Who here hasn’t seen far worse over far less? I also find it interesting that people are making comments and then coming back later and admit that they have not read everything. Have I made mistakes over this? Maybe I have. Am I sorry? No I am not. Will I do things differently in the future? Yes I will. Most of you still do not understand the lives of those with personal Amateur Sites; we live this 24/7. It’s a much different world when it’s you and your wife/husband in front of the camera. When the only thing you have is your image and reputation to keep your members you will go out of your way to make sure you are not misrepresented in any way. And we are VERY protective of our members as well as our image and reputation with them. Everyone wants to point out I know nothing of the TGP world, that is not entirely true, I do know some things of it, and yes I did know and have always known “skimming” or "CJ" takes place, but I have only seen one thumb tgp which was just a few months ago and he didn’t skim, and since I do not surf tgp sites this was “new” to me. I have been to so many sites over the last 4 years and not once have I had any affiliate site set off my Norton. The only sites that has EVER set off my Norton are the thieves who stole my images and put on all their links to whatever crap and sent them to popup hell (and even a few illegal sites) just to make $. And most of those who have done this were from Russia, Romania and other countries outside the US…. even the UK. So when I saw the Norton, and when I saw the “skimming” and when I saw the “who is” being in the UK I thought I saw the same shit I have seen over and over for the past 4 years. I will still offer TGP’s to those who want to use them, if you do not want to use them, no hard feelings here, I understand. As I have also stated prior, I have every right to say how my content is used and I would like to mention that a new design and setup for KatCash is being worked on and should be done by end of the month, and for the first time in 4 years I will be adding a TOS. I am amazed that I have started something that turned into this, last I saw, this was on 4 message boards, and from reading the post’s here and at one other board I have no problem with everyone jumping on the bandwagon to “ban Torn” since it is so apparent they have not read the whole story, but just responding to what they heard or what they wanted to read. No matter what people, this would have never been a thread if I did not get 3 Norton warnings. Total time I would have spent on that site if it had no Norton warnings would not have been enough for me to click on anything since I just wanted to see the site, nothing more. If it was his or his friends or whoever’s fault that my Norton was set off I really don’t care. It was set off. I saw my content, and with my past experience of stolen content being used I terminated the account. It is not my fault that so many of you are worried I will set a precedent on the use of content that you do not own the copyright on is being used. I did what I thought was in my best interest as I always have. What all the major affiliate sites do is not up to me; I have not and will not start a movement with them or anyone for starting new rules on the TOS for all tgp sites to end skimming. How people want to make their money is their business. So many have chimed in on this, not many who have posted are even my affiliates, so going out of your way to tell me that you have never made me $ and will never make me $ is really a waste of your time, but if you feel the need feel free.