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Greenguy · 2004-04-27, 07:06 AM

I just have to play Devil's Advocate.....and let me 1st say that I am a big supporter of ARS.

When Marc came on the radio show, he said that one of the major reasons for the changes at ARS was that the GIM sites were loosing money. A lot of money.

Now, I can see ARS getting rid of them because they were loosing money - hell, if ARS's other programs/products made $10 a day but the GIM sites were loosing $5 a day, getting rid of the GIM sites would of course increase ARS's bottom line.

But you can't tell me that whatever problems the GIM sites had are now corrected just because they are in the CHAMPS system. If the problems could have been corrected this quickly (8 weeks) then I think ARS would have & could have saved themselves a shit load of grief, controversy & pissed off webmasters by making those corrections behind the scenes & just left everything the way it was.

Everyday, I'm still finding GIM & BYOT links on pages that I built & I have to change them to something else

Now we're all supposed to just go back to promoting these sites that ARS stated are loosing money?

Knowing this info, why would anyone promote the GIM sites? Especially using the recurring option?

Plus - these sites will NOT convert like they did 3 months ago - it's much, much easier to convince a surfer to spend $0-5 on a trial than it is to convince them to drop $25-40 right off the bat.

I'll probably give the GIM CHAMPS sites a shot, but I will be using the Per Sign-up option & not pushing them as hard as I did in previous years.

2004-04-27, 07:06 AM	#11
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,781	I just have to play Devil's Advocate.....and let me 1st say that I am a big supporter of ARS. When Marc came on the radio show, he said that one of the major reasons for the changes at ARS was that the GIM sites were loosing money. A lot of money. Now, I can see ARS getting rid of them because they were loosing money - hell, if ARS's other programs/products made $10 a day but the GIM sites were loosing $5 a day, getting rid of the GIM sites would of course increase ARS's bottom line. But you can't tell me that whatever problems the GIM sites had are now corrected just because they are in the CHAMPS system. If the problems could have been corrected this quickly (8 weeks) then I think ARS would have & could have saved themselves a shit load of grief, controversy & pissed off webmasters by making those corrections behind the scenes & just left everything the way it was. Everyday, I'm still finding GIM & BYOT links on pages that I built & I have to change them to something else Now we're all supposed to just go back to promoting these sites that ARS stated are loosing money? Knowing this info, why would anyone promote the GIM sites? Especially using the recurring option? Plus - these sites will NOT convert like they did 3 months ago - it's much, much easier to convince a surfer to spend $0-5 on a trial than it is to convince them to drop $25-40 right off the bat. I'll probably give the GIM CHAMPS sites a shot, but I will be using the Per Sign-up option & not pushing them as hard as I did in previous years. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network