LOL Furrygirl.
As much as I don't want to continue this silly argument with you, because
1) it's obvious that you made up your mind on page 2 of that 5 page FW thread in May, and
2) this is not the place for it
I can't help but reply. I shouldn't bother, but feel the need to clear something up.
You see, there's this thing called "sarcasm." Obviously you're not very familiar with it if you actually think that I was calling your site racist.
I made that post about your site to try and show how you were making wild assumptions and generalisations about me and FTG based on the site tour and based on your own preconceptions about the topic.
Shall I post it again here?
You know, I think I will, because it's such a silly post it still makes me laugh.
So, folks, here it is:
Quote:
Perhaps I just need to turn this topic around, since it has become an attack on For The Girls and on me.
So... shall I put a big smile on my face and reverse the polarity, so that now we're talking about Furrygirl's site, VegPorn?
To start, I'll jump into the thread and make a couple of broad sweeping stereotypical statements:
Vegetarians and vegans don't buy porn. Why would they? They're so weak from lack of protein they can't raise the energy to masturbate...
or how about:
Vegetarians can get sex any time they want, they don't need to use porn.
Right, good so far.
Next, I'll have a go at the whole concept behind what Furrygirl is trying to achieve with her site.
"Vegan and Vegetarian indie porn" is just wrong as a concept. It's obvious that most vegetarians join mainstream sites, so it's a bad name for what you do. You can't possibly cater to the tastes of every vegetarian, so how dare you say that what you're offering is representative of what vegetarians and vegans like?
You're obviously a minority. Of course, I myself know exactly what most vegetarians like (although I'm not going to say how I know this), and so I can categorically say that what you're offering is stereotypical, inaccurate and offensive to most vegetarians.
What's more, your site tacitly denies the sexualities of people who eat meat. Oh, sure, you SAY you welcome anybody, but I know what you're really thinking. Deep down inside, you hate people who eat meat, you're meatist. It doesn't matter what you say, you'll just be denying this essential fact about your character. You're really saying "Meatism is a very important value to me."
If a vegetarian joins Meat Holes, then surely that qualifies as "Vegetarian porn" too, right?
Hmm, what other attacks can I make? I know, I'll leap to a few conclusions about your site and what you're all about just based on your tour:
Well, a lot of the people on your site look very pale... You seem to be suggesting that vegetarians are all pale and don't have any energy. How dare you imply that? I'm sure there are a million vegans out there who are running marathones and the like.
Hang on a minute.... there's NO BLACK PEOPLE on your tour. Are you saying that black people can't be vegetarians? How dare you, you're racist too!!
The text says "Titillating tofu eaters." We all know that eating tofu is such an old cliched idea about vegetarians. I can't believe you would put that on your site, it's perpetuating inaccuracies about vegetarians and what they eat (or else it suggests that you're doing something kinky with bean curd).
What's that? Vegetarians actually LIKE tofu? How do you know that? What? Because they told you, and now you're just catering to a certain market? Pah!!! You obviously have no idea what kind of stereotypes you're perpetuating. Those vegetarians who are titillated by tofu are just buying into a meatriarchal idea of sexuality...
Now, what else can I do? Shall I keep referring to your site as "thin pale porn" even though that's not a good description of it? I think I will, even though you'll say that your porn is quite broadly based. I'll just ignore what you say and stick to my own ideas about what you're selling. I don't want the facts to get in the way of my victim mentality.
OK, good. And now, for my final statement...
OH. MY. GOD. You're CHARGING people money to look at your porn? You mean you're not in this business just for altruistic reasons? Well, bugger me with a fish fork! You must be one of those smut peddlers who push certain stereotypes about sexuality in order to make money...
OK... now, do your best to refute all that I've had to say. I won't listen. I've already made up my mind about you.
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Now, don't tell me you didn't pick up a certain hint of sarcasm and satire there? Or do you honestly believe that what I just quoted was a serious critique of your site?
Beyond that, all I can say is I made my final comments in the debate
here on LEE'S pink board. I even asked you to make explicit what aspects of our site you considered to be "stereotypical and sexist" but you didn't reply.
You can continue to go on ranting about this as long as you like but I've replied to you, I don't agree with you, I believe that you're wrong, and that's it.
We're done.
Oh, and since I've posted, I'll make it slightly on topic: I think the changes to the text on RageCash's sleep site have made a huge difference and I no longer have any personal objection to it.
Copy is definitely king.