breaking rules

[plateman]

hi if i build a site and link it to my sites that have recips on it can i put a full page ad and a console on the new site would that be cheating ? i know hardly anybody would list it

i dont want to piss off linklist people and do something like that.


i just am not getting hardly any hits to sponsor and yet to have a signup, one day i had 500 visitors = 2 sponsor hits

i know that not enough traffic but still they can at least go look


i would like to cover sponsors sites with 1 page of links instead of building 50 sites

advise please

[Chop Smith]

Originally posted by plateman
can i put a full page ad and a console on the new site
i would like to cover sponsors sites with 1 page of links instead of building 50 sites

The short answer is yes. I don't think the link list and tgp webmasters rule against that. A case in point, one of the largest tgp's would not list my galleries because the sponsor that I use to promote believes in pops up. I got around this by building a "tour page" without popups and then sent the traffic to the sponsor's join page. If the surfer did not join, he was three levels deep from the TGP. I started getting listed by the TGP even though I was using a banned sponsor.

Originally posted by plateman
sponsors sites with 1 page of links instead of building 50 sites

Do I think that if you have a page with nothing but sponsor links on it that your clicks thru will increase? No, but building 50 good free sites will. That is if you follow the rules and get listed. The name of this game is traffic.

Finally, do you really want to make money in this business? Yes? Then please take this as constructive advice.

Do you have a plan? If not develop one and follow it. Fine-tune it as you learn. Possibility - built one free site per day or a gallery. Submit it to as many places as you can. If you don't get list find out why and learn from your mistakes. Before you start submitting you should at least know the basis. That will decrease your chances of getting blacklisted. You will find 215 real simple lessons at the links below. There is something to learn from each of them. However, I believe it would be helpful if you started at the beginning.

http://www.cozyacademy.com/classroom...site/index.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classrooms/tgp/index.asp
http://www.cozyacademy.com/classrooms/traffic/index.asp

I truly hope that this helps you and you are successful in your endeavors.

Now! They just aren’t any easy answers. It is all about learning and working

[MrMaryLou]

Originally posted by plateman
hi if i build a site and link it to my sites that have recips on it can i put a full page ad and a console on the new site would that be cheating ? i know hardly anybody would list it

i dont want to piss off linklist people and do something like that.


i just am not getting hardly any hits to sponsor and yet to have a signup, one day i had 500 visitors = 2 sponsor hits

i know that not enough traffic but still they can at least go look


i would like to cover sponsors sites with 1 page of links instead of building 50 sites

advise please

You do that kind of stuff I got one word for you blacklist

[Cleo]

Changing your site to something that no longer follows the rules like adding a FPA or consoles will get you instantly blacklisted the next time our bots are run.

[docholly]

What Chop Said!! x 1000....

Go back and read thru the newbie section here, the TGP section, the LL section.. there is a wealth of information..

go to sites and look at what they are listing and try to copy the style.. freesites with 6-9 receipts on the index.. 2 or 3 sponsor receipts per page.. quality content that matches what you are sponsoring.. if your favorite sponsor doesn't have something that matches your content, change one of them.. one of the worst things i see as an admin is sponsor banners proclaiming the BEST pantyhose site, and the content is to lesbians with no stockings..

PULeese..

I read some very good advise on this board before the crash.. i think it was from Ramster and if i'm wrong on who it was please forgive me, i'm old.. anyway.. he has a sign above his computer and it says:

BUILD

so even if you only build 1 gallery and 1 freesite per week, submit and forget.. build the next one.. submit and forget..

this is a game of longevity..not instant wealth.. you want instant money.. go do day labor for LaborReady.. you'll have cash than night.. but if you make a plan, as Chop advised, and stick to it, revise it when necessary.. treat this like any other business, becuase that is what it is, then you will start to see your $$ increase as you get more and more exposure.

anyone on the Forbes 400 will tell you, there is NO way to get rich quick.. even those who inherit their money, have to find ways to make it grow...

READ, Build, Surf, Build, Study, Build, Read some more, B-U-I-L-D.. and they will Cum..

[Ramster]

Originally posted by plateman
i would like to cover sponsors sites with 1 page of links instead of building 50 sites

advise please

You won't make a dime until you understand that you NEED to make 50 sites in order to make money. Period.

A lot people on here have over 1000 free sites out there. I have a ton myself and lately have been building a lot of tgp galleries. Over the past 6 months I bet I've built and submitted about 300-400 galleries.

Build build and build if you want to make money and STOP WORRYING about that site you built that is not making money. LEARN from it and build another one today that is better. Then build another one tomorrow!!!!!

[Chop Smith]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
You do that kind of stuff I got one word for you blacklist

Sorry MrML. I guess I misunderstood what he was asking.

[plateman]

thanks for all that good info i guess i worded question a little wrong ill try again

build a new site, money bars everything that linklists dont like/ and dont put any recips on it

but link no recip new site to current recip sites

I am fishing to see what i can do so i dont get black listed

is being on black list good or bad ....lol

a newbie saying "I am so new i am still in the box"

thanks for all the help guys and for putting up with dumb questions .

[Chop Smith]

Originally posted by plateman
thanks for all that good info

May I ask what you are going to do with it? Have you decided to dedicate the time to read and learn?

Originally posted by plateman
build a new site, money bars everything that linklists dont like/ and dont put any recips on it

but link no recip new site to current recip sites

I think your question was answered regardless of how you ask it. Take it from the pro, MrMaryLou, you will be blacklisted.

Originally posted by plateman
is being on black list good or bad ....lol

You indicate that this was spoken in jest, but are you for REAL? Maybe you are just trying to jerk our chain. You will find that folks that visit here for deriving the benefits of knowledge from others with experience. I really am afraid that you are on the verge of being ignored by many posters here.

Originally posted by plateman
"I am so new i am still in the box"

I understand being a newbie, I consider myself one also. May I suggest that you start posting in the "Newbie Forum".

[plateman]

sorry chopsmith i thought they didnt understand question

i wasnt trying to jerk your chain or the boards

i was trying to add a little humor

again sorry if you took it wrong

[lassiter]

Ok, I am now officially confused.

Let's read this again - "build a new site, money bars everything that linklists dont like/ and dont put any recips on it

but link no recip new site to current recip sites"


Seems like what is being asked is, if I make, say, a hub page with all sorts of bells, whistles, popups and links on it, and "link it to my free site," in other words, make one of my free sites one of the links off the bells & whistles page, that would be a blacklisting offense? I utterly fail to see how or why. What the hell *are* hub sites if not my own personal sites for sending self-generated traffic to my free sites? And who says how many banners or links or tricks I can put on such a site that is not actually being submitted to LLs in the first place?

Even if it was the other way around, and one of my exit links off the free site went to the bells and whistles page, well, it's exit traffic *off* the site, so as long as I'm not violating other rules like maximum number of exit links, banners, etc., then as far as I can see it is still perfectly legal.

Sorry, but I think either I'm reading this wrong or other people are.

At any rate, Happy Halloween.

[plateman]

yea that is what i was talking about i think some board members didnt maybe understand question


but if you think about it, you are using the link list traffic to send traffic to a site that has all of the bells and whistles on it but that site has no recips on it would the link lists accept that site as legal


And i dont want to get the board mad at me by asking such questions and get banned black listed

i just want to know what i can do and not do, you know

yea that is good idea about exit traffic

like send exit traffic to quickmed and such would that be differnt

[lassiter]

Plateman,

Well you are confusing me even more now.

"but if you think about it, you are using the link list traffic to send traffic to a site that has all of the bells and whistles on it but that site has no recips on it would the link lists accept that site as legal "

Well, no - NO link list will ever accept such a site as legal. What I'm talking about is if you made such a site and fed traffic to it from *other* sources (NOT link lists), but had an existing free site (that has recips) as one of the links *off of* the non-recip site, the LLs should not have any problem with it, since it's a separate site entirely, and not actually part of your official free site.

OK, that sounds confusing too, doesn't it? |confused|

The idea is that both sites must be separate, but you can *link* from one site to the other as long as the submitted free site *itself* does not violate any of the LLs rules.

Now, as you pointed out, you may have trouble getting traffic to that fancy no-recip site of yours, though you could feed it exit traffic off the free site. For example, on the last page (gallery 2) of your free site, just have a simple text link at the bottom that says "click here for more hot porn links" and link it to that money bar site. The money bar site is *not* actually part of your free site but just a link off of it, so that's legal, as long as you don't have more than the required number of links on that gallery 2 page in the first place.

Obviously, putting the money bar itself on the gallery 2 page is not allowed. Don't do it. But creating a separate money-bar site and putting a single link to it off the gallery is good, AFAIK.

BUT...as has been pointed out by others, this idea is still no substitute for just building 50 "legal" free sites and feeding your sponsor with those. I promise you'll get far better sales that way than you will with single 50-link money bar pages. Trust me.
|rasta|

[plateman]

thanks i think this thread got more confused as it went on

i wiil have to read through all of this again tomarro i am building another site tonight

i just hope nobody got pissed at me

a new guy comes in and wants to find ways to play dirty

no iam not like that

example other day i was fishing google for popular words in sites to check out there code so i clicked on some and my popup blocker would not stop! who the hell wants to vist a site and maybe join and get jerked around every site they have its crazy

iam not new to the internet i know a little bit or i wouldnt be here

[MrMaryLou]

Plateman its real simple if you want your sites listed and you want to build trust with the LL owners just follow the rules There are no short cuts trust us here

[Surfn]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
Plateman its real simple if you want your sites listed and you want to build trust with the LL owners just follow the rules There are no short cuts trust us here

Ditto

[fetish1]

Originally posted by MrMaryLou
build a new site, money bars everything that linklists dont like

No offense meant here Plateman, but if you intend to do this for the longhaul, and you aren't looking for the impossible "make a buck quick route" then it would be to your advantage to learn the basics, start building sites that DO meet the link list requirements, and worry about the more creative type alternatives AFTER you have gotten a grip on a base plan. What good does it do traffic wise to have one site listed with link lists and hope that tons of traffic from that is going to flood into your moneybar, pop-up, ad-ridden site? It's not going to happen. :-(

You got a LOT of good advice from the earlier posts, I hope that you will take advantage of it and put it to good use.

[Greenguy]

Originally posted by plateman
hi if i build a site and link it to my sites that have recips on it can i put a full page ad and a console on the new site would that be cheating ? i know hardly anybody would list it

Let me make sure I understand this, because I think there is some confusion on how you worded it (or I could be reading it wrong)

Are you asking if you built a site & then had another site linked off of it & that site had FPA's & whatnot, if that's ok?

If so, yes, it is ok - as long as the site you submitted to me did not have the FPA I really don't look at what else you're linking too.

[plateman]

yes that sounds right

not that i want to play dirty but some of my sponsors sites really dont have the free content to promote them right and i dont want to buy any right now

so i can have a site listed with you and others and put a single link on my listed clean sites link them to a little site that i wont list with anybody and put a couple of multiple site ads on it that kind of stuff and put some of there mixed up hard to use pics on it or no pics

also they would count that link as a ad so i would have to watch

not create a circle jerk because they are a no no

i think a good place would be last gallery "looking for something else" link to that little hub site that would have a ad for the site they just left and multi site ad fo my sponsors sites

i know there no sub for 50 sites but with this they can maybe see something they like better and cover more niches with this little site

plus i about done doing sites with them unless something really happens

like that plumper site i just done you said pictures are to old doubt anybody would list

do u think link lists people will go with that ?

if not i will forget about it and go on my new domain is now ready

you understand what i am trying to do

sorry this is so long

thanks

[Greenguy]

The content you had on the BBW site is very old - I know I've seen it many times over the last 5 years - LOL

Grab some content form here - http://www.greenguysboard.com/freecontent/index.html - we give sets away ever week or 2 - either some of Jim's private stuff or content providers will dontate content for our members to use

[plateman]