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2007-09-05, 09:41 PM | #1 |
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Question for LinkList Owners about Recip Table Makers Site
I built a reciptable builder site that is listed in my signature which allows webmasters to register their sites and post their recips and then users can make recip tables really really easy...it's cool because the owness is basically on the linllist owners to post their links and the message to xxxwebmasters for what they currently need submissions on. My question though, is that the reciptable maker puts a little link to my recipsite in the table, will that count against webmasters that use the quickrecip.com site as an outbound link? The link to my site is obviously to get more traffic to my site and is not a money maker for the submitter. Please advise your thoughts.
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2007-09-06, 08:15 AM | #2 |
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It won't matter to me. I won't count it as an outbound link. I'm just not that picky.
I added a site a one recip as a test but I'm not seeing it. Does it take a little while for them to show up?
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2007-09-06, 08:47 AM | #3 |
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You're charging for the service AND placing a link to yourself in the table? I assume the webmaster paying for the service can remove that link when they download the table. I find the idea as annoying as WEBMA$TER links on a free site. The links on a free site should be for a surfer's eyes - not other webmasters.
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2007-09-06, 02:25 PM | #4 | |
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Spaceman, I added my recip and it worked fine. I think what you need to do is go into the html editor part where you added your text link html code. Then you should see your recip there, then save. On the actual site itself, nice job with the site. I think it will prove to be useful. |
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2007-09-06, 03:25 PM | #5 |
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I guess if I don't add my link lists, I won't have to worry about rejecting sites with an extra link and hotlinked recip images, then right?
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2007-09-06, 05:11 PM | #6 |
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Correct. That would be my assumption as well.
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2007-09-06, 06:05 PM | #7 |
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Got it Lowry. I added an amateur recip and it didn't show up on the main page with the other link lists. I added the default site recip and voila.
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2007-09-06, 06:59 PM | #8 |
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I added my site and I agree, if someone pays the membership fee, the extra link back should be dropped.
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2007-09-06, 08:36 PM | #9 |
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I have no problem with the quickrecip.com link being dropped by paying webmasters and actually, I want to give everyone a free membership because I want everyone to use the site. $20 a year shouldn't be the focus...that's just a round number...I'll drop that to $0.01 if needed, but the subscription feature is attached to the root of the site and can't be zero because it will come up as an error when someone tries to upgrade.
On the home page it clearly states to contact me for a free membership. Don't get hung up on that $20 thing. Hell, contact me through the board if you want to. I'm sure the affiliate programs will pay for the site and site maintenance down the road. The point of quickrecip.com is to centralize linklists and tgp sites that want submissions and the links they want us to use. I even put a feature in the site so linklist owners and tgp site owners can add a little blurb about thier site and what they're actively looking for or need or what the site's special rules are. It's pretty spiffy. I know you can't please everyone so that's not my intention. I just think if site owners are looking to have submissions of freesites that have professional recip tables, then this is a good tool. Check it out and I'm sure you'll agree. Useless, one question, are you saying that hotlinked recipimages are a bad thing? An automatic deny? How do you other linklist owners feel about that? I'm just trying to make a good tool for all of us...have a little faith and give it a try...and yeah, delete the recip if you want to but be fair, help me out with some support either feedback, tell other webmasters, something...quickrecip.com didn't fall out of the sky... |
2007-09-06, 08:56 PM | #10 |
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Anything hotlinked will get declined by the larger LLs that I know of - the other problem I have with this is that everyones recip tables will look the same - which is another possible decline reason
We look for "unique looking" sites - if they look too templated then its usually an auto decline |
2007-09-06, 09:02 PM | #11 |
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Hot Linked Recip images is a reason for denial? It's not hotlinking gallery images...If I get more feedback about that, then I'll change it to no hotlinking or hotlinking optional...thanks for that...as for the recip tables, you can personalize the table with color, border, padding etc...
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2007-09-06, 09:21 PM | #12 |
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hotlinked anything - is a reason for denial - everything that goes on a free site has to be on that particular domain - some places have auto checks for that - some do it manually - and its not just LLs - TGPs/MGPs do the same thing
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2007-09-06, 10:16 PM | #13 |
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I once got rejected for hotlinking, and could not figure out why. Sure enough, it was a recip on my table.
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2007-09-06, 10:48 PM | #14 |
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I'm going to pass on it just because it is too uniform and regimented in a part of the biz where most sites look pretty damn similar anyways.
Building recip tables is not that big a deal, I have about 40 of them on my HD and I'm changing or updating them all the time anyways
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2007-09-06, 11:09 PM | #15 |
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Not to keep answering questions on this thread, but, the point of the site is too fold...recips tables but more importantly finding good places to submit that are actively seeking submitters and knowing what the sites you're submitting to want. That's the main benefit...the reciptables are just convenient...it'll be a great place for newbies to start when they're looking for places to submit...
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2007-09-06, 11:44 PM | #16 |
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A couple of folks have mentioned it in this thread, but uniform recip tables that are used by submitter X, time and time again can be a reason for declining sites. Dupe content is the enemy of all sites trying to gain SE rankings.
I think you have a good idea there, that will make the job of creating recip tables easier for the submitters, while letting LL owners manage/change their recips pretty easily. And like you say, it'll identify the webmasters/LLs that are still active. Maybe just put some thought into randomizing it a bit. It it'll keep submitters from using the same recip table of ten bazillion sites, I'm all for it. Hell, I'll put a link to it on my webmaster page.
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2007-09-07, 12:56 AM | #17 |
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The link tables have are not always going to be the same...see, all the linklist owners list their site and their recip and there's 159 categories at last count so you can link the individual image or text banner you want for your category and when someone builds a recip table, they filter it down from the main categories, then to the subcategories, and only the links that apply will be there to choose from. For example, if you choose amateur, then you can do a subcategory of amateur movies, amateur porn, amateur nudes. If you select amateur, you can select which recipes you want from all the amateur and subamatuer sites or you can select amateur nudes and choose from those recipes available. There is a preview of what the recip looks like and you select the ones you want by selecting a check box. And if you want to rearrange the links, you just drag and drop them into the order you want. You can also select the border style, background color, border color, and padding within the recip cells. Then you hit generate and there is your table. If you do it once, you'll know how to do it better the second time and from there forward. There's lots of opportunity for variation in tables. It's not like the site just spits out 1 table and you're stuck with it. I really can't stress that the five minutes you spend previewing it will prove it's worth.
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2007-09-07, 08:21 AM | #18 | |
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Yes, that's what I RecipBuilder for, mainly. I never use the the tables it spits out, but it does offer lots of places to submit...places I wouldn't otherwise know about. In that regard, your site is much, much better I think. For my tables, I'm at the point where there are several known traffic generators, yet I still like to add some new ones to maybe cover some new territory. From that angle you've got a great thing going, or will once more people sign on. |
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2007-09-07, 08:38 AM | #19 |
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Just a couple of quick suggestions:
1. If you move the link back to your site down a bit, it won't wind up looking like it belongs to the recip image right above (when an odd number of columns is chosen and center alignment puts a graphic right above your centered link). 2. On the $20/year membership fee, you might want to consider making it $20 for a lifetime membership during a time-limited period to boost the number of people who might pay for an upgraded membership. You can also make that offer, for example, to all members of GG&J's board. Or to everyone who adds your link to their webmasters page/area. Good luck with the site.
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2007-09-07, 07:45 PM | #20 |
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Yah good site. It looks like you are taking some heat from the boards. Don't mind it we are always looking for a freebie. I am going to support you on this because I am new too. So all you seasoned webmasters be on the lookout for us newbies because we are taking over!!
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2007-09-07, 08:26 PM | #21 |
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Yeah D2222, you're right, I'm really taking a beating...thanks for the support...
Simon, that's a great idea...and consider it an offer...any one from GG&J that contact me, pay the $20 and get a lifetime premium with no strings attached or you can sign up under me on one of the affiliate programs I have listed on the site or a plug on the webmaster resources of your site. I'll also work on the suggestion about the quickrecip.com link at the bottom of the table. Great suggestions. As for the hotlinking the recip images, I thought that was great for ease and convenience to cut and paste the code and be done with it, but if that's an issue, I'll change that around so it's not an issue. Also, over the weekend, I'm going to add some of the default links to the major linklists and TGPs. The message to the user will be "added by admin" so it won't indicate the site is actively taking submissions, but there will be resources there to make nice recipe for future submissions. Any linklist owner that finds their site listed against their will, can contact me and I'll take it down immediately. I don't want to get the heat that Chamilion Submitter is getting...but this isn't for auto submission so that shouldn't be a problem. Thank you all for the feedback...as previously stated, I'm just trying to find good active sources to submit to...this way seems like a good long term solution... Any other feedback is always welcome...thanks again... |
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2007-09-08, 04:02 PM | #23 | |
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I'm still debating between the linkback and traffic to my site...now tell me, in your honest opinion, what would you do? How would any of you fellow webmasters use this tool to your benefit and provide it free to others? Traffic skim? Honor System? Thanks for the feedback. |
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2007-09-08, 08:21 PM | #24 |
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Hey I just wanted to add to this thread one thing I think that was misunderstood...and that is that you can totally make the reciptables without subscribing. Subscribing is an upgraded membership...other than that, you can register and make tables all day long at no cost...with a non-upgraded membership though, you can't make a reciptable with your own site links in it. That's the main difference...just wanted to clear that up...
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2007-09-15, 05:43 PM | #25 |
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So now youre spamming with emails to owners of the LLs - thats pretty damned stupid if you ask me
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