Old school time warp

SheepGuy · 2009-01-15, 11:34 PM

I made very good money between '98 and around '04 doing a few things that are frowned upon now, using blind text links, opening images onto html pages where clicking on the image again sent you to a paysite, pic posts, free sites with no real defined structure and no maximum or minimum content requirements, TGP galleries with a big assed "More" link to a porn site at the bottom, that sort of thing. Nowadays I 'd add i-frames, javascript and flash to the list.
Innocent things that don't coddle the surfer, but won't piss him off too much either.
I've never used pop-ups, disabled back buttons, FPA's before the content, or linked to cj's or top lists with words likely to bring on the heat, nobody needs that crap and it's bad for biz. So that shit would still be against the rules.
So I've got two questions;
1. Would anyone build old school sites like that nowadays if some LL's or TGP's would accept them?
2. Would anyone with a LL or TGP accept sites like that?

I can answer my own question # 2 by saying that I would accept sites like that from partners, but only if other LL's or TGP's or Pic Posts, or whatever will also accept them.
Times are tough in this biz, and I'm thinking a little less self-regulation could equal a few more sales without hurting anyone.
As a bit of an example http://www.lipsdick.com/cowgirl/ likely wouldn't get listed anywhere, but it won't piss off the surfer, and with a reasonable amount of traffic it will make sales.
Any thoughts?

Sven800 · 2009-01-15, 11:44 PM

I'm cautious about listing sites with flash/javascript due to all the exploits possible with that.

No problem at all with pics on html pages, alternate site structure, etc. as long as the site still looks good.

The sample you gave would probably not fly (looks horrendous at 1680x1050).

LD · 2009-01-16, 09:37 AM

I like what you're saying. I started building FS's farily recently, so I am used to the rules that are generally accepted now...but I will say when Greenguy came out with his trusted submitter thing, I took advantage of some of the new guidelines and have seen some improvments in sales.

As fas as accepting them, sure, especially if some of the other list started accepting them.

CaptainJSparrow · 2009-01-20, 12:47 PM

I'd list sites like that. I think that too much regulation is a bad thing. My theory is if you deliver for the surfer what you promise, I'm good with you being creative.

MadCat · 2009-01-21, 03:44 AM

I'd love to be able to have sites accepted that have Javascript on it, if only because it'd allow me to stick google analytics on it and have ads served off my adserver so I can measure performance and adjust as necessary.

Flash I don't care a bit about, I hate it and wouldn't use it to begin with.

papagmp · 2009-01-22, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MadCat

I'd love to be able to have sites accepted that have Javascript on it, if only because it'd allow me to stick google analytics on it and have ads served off my adserver so I can measure performance and adjust as necessary.

Flash I don't care a bit about, I hate it and wouldn't use it to begin with.

But I do like the flash adds of our favorite movie sponsor.

2009-01-15, 11:34 PM	#1
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	Old school time warp I made very good money between '98 and around '04 doing a few things that are frowned upon now, using blind text links, opening images onto html pages where clicking on the image again sent you to a paysite, pic posts, free sites with no real defined structure and no maximum or minimum content requirements, TGP galleries with a big assed "More" link to a porn site at the bottom, that sort of thing. Nowadays I 'd add i-frames, javascript and flash to the list. Innocent things that don't coddle the surfer, but won't piss him off too much either. I've never used pop-ups, disabled back buttons, FPA's before the content, or linked to cj's or top lists with words likely to bring on the heat, nobody needs that crap and it's bad for biz. So that shit would still be against the rules. So I've got two questions; 1. Would anyone build old school sites like that nowadays if some LL's or TGP's would accept them? 2. Would anyone with a LL or TGP accept sites like that? I can answer my own question # 2 by saying that I would accept sites like that from partners, but only if other LL's or TGP's or Pic Posts, or whatever will also accept them. Times are tough in this biz, and I'm thinking a little less self-regulation could equal a few more sales without hurting anyone. As a bit of an example http://www.lipsdick.com/cowgirl/ likely wouldn't get listed anywhere, but it won't piss off the surfer, and with a reasonable amount of traffic it will make sales. Any thoughts? __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now. Last edited by SheepGuy; 2009-01-15 at 11:37 PM..

2009-01-15, 11:44 PM	#2
Sven800 No matter how good you are at something, there's always about a million people better than you Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 230	I'm cautious about listing sites with flash/javascript due to all the exploits possible with that. No problem at all with pics on html pages, alternate site structure, etc. as long as the site still looks good. The sample you gave would probably not fly (looks horrendous at 1680x1050). __________________ PornoXP XXX Adult Free - Now taking submissions

2009-01-16, 09:37 AM	#3
LD wtfwjd? Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 2,103	I like what you're saying. I started building FS's farily recently, so I am used to the rules that are generally accepted now...but I will say when Greenguy came out with his trusted submitter thing, I took advantage of some of the new guidelines and have seen some improvments in sales. As fas as accepting them, sure, especially if some of the other list started accepting them. __________________ Artisteer Wordpress Theme Generator Create Custom Themes! My Little Network

2009-01-21, 03:44 AM	#5
MadCat If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 247	I'd love to be able to have sites accepted that have Javascript on it, if only because it'd allow me to stick google analytics on it and have ads served off my adserver so I can measure performance and adjust as necessary. Flash I don't care a bit about, I hate it and wouldn't use it to begin with. __________________ What's blue and not heavy?

2009-01-20, 12:47 PM	#4
CaptainJSparrow You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Louisiana Posts: 511	I'd list sites like that. I think that too much regulation is a bad thing. My theory is if you deliver for the surfer what you promise, I'm good with you being creative.