Awstats, who uses it and whats your likes and dislikes from it.

juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 09:28 AM

I use it and I'm not sure if this software is 100% on the money. I guess you get what you pay for. My time stamps always are screwed up. One day they are correct, next day they are screwy. Plus I hate that it wont give you stamps on http status codes, connection from sites, and the pages.
I have been looking over whoson.com and I think I'm going to buy this stuff. The $300 price tag for the remote version is a little pricy but man it's real nice and seems more on the money then awstats. Works on IIS an Apache.

Cleo · 2005-05-15, 09:32 AM

I like AWStats very much for something and it is sooo pretty too.

It sucks at telling you daily info and I just discovered Wusage after my new host was nice enough to install them for me. They are butt ass ugly but show things like daily who is sending me the most traffic, time of visit, exit pages, referral URL and tons of other info.

Seems like no one stats program does it all so I went with a host that gave me AWStats, Wusage, and Analog.

Trev · 2005-05-15, 03:39 PM

Cleo, you're getting time of visit on Wusage? hmmm, I need to talk the guy that installed ours. I'm trying to remember if I was getting it when we had it on our first host, 4 years ago.

Wusage does have great daily stats. I love them, and asked for Wusage specifically.

Cleo · 2005-05-15, 03:45 PM

I see time under Trails Followed and Traffic by Hour if that is what you mean.

SirMoby · 2005-05-15, 04:11 PM

I think the only people that aren't using Wusage are those that have never tried it. The reports may not be pretty but who cares? The reports are accurate, it's cheap and support is pretty good.

Wusage Rocks!

Trev · 2005-05-15, 04:23 PM

ahh those. I was more interested in times for the autorized users and top visitor sites. Had times for those in the last stats and it makes it easier (for me) to match up things when someone is trying something funky.

Cleo · 2005-05-15, 04:26 PM

On the only domain where I would have authorized users, foxyangel.com, we use Strongbox and it doesn't use htaccess authorization so there is nothing to report in my stats.

Barron · 2005-05-15, 05:46 PM

I liked awstats until I read this thread. Now that I know wusage will give me daily, I may switch.

In the meantime, check your awstats conf file. Contact your host and tell them you think something is up with timestamps and you dont think the clock is keeping time accurately.

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juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 05:47 PM

Well man I am really pushing this whoson today. When I was demo-ing it over the past few days the things I liked about it were. 1) I can remote access it from a webpage or a client. I don't like to remotedesktop to my server all the time. 2) any funny business someone is trying on the site can be locked down automaticly. Ie user tries to access restricted pages or directories more then XXX amount of times = block user. You set that amount. It will also mail you and a 2nd party if you want. It gives you who is, dns, reverse dns etc. Their is a chat section for live support on your site or what ever you want to use it for. You can dynamicly invite who ever is on your site to chat. Which might be nice to tell the bad guys you are watching. But anyway I'm sure it's not the end all be all but man it has alot of features. Ok enuffff with promoting them. lol.

juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barron

I liked awstats until I read this thread. Now that I know wusage will give me daily, I may switch.

In the meantime, check your awstats conf file. Contact your host and tell them you think something is up with timestamps and you dont think the clock is keeping time accurately.

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awstats will give you daily, if you are not getting them then the logs on the box are not set to update daily. Heck I get hourly on mine. 10 min after the hour mine run and update. At the end of the day roughly 12:05 am I have them run and merge that days reports. I dont know for sure how that works off a unix or linux box. I had to write bat file and place them in an AT job to run this way but was nothing crazy to write.

Cleo · 2005-05-15, 06:04 PM

I get hits and BW used with awstats but I don't see the URLs of my top referrals for the day with awstats.

I was using Analog just for daily top referrals but Wusage gives me this and so much more.

juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 06:29 PM

Are you guys hosting your own server? Or with a company? I think that may be the issue. If your getting hosted someplace you should call them cause they are not giving you all the functions of that software. Or maybe its a linux/unix thing. I get all this info
If you guys want to see what I get go here. It's not locked down
http://www.jollycams.com/stats
When I installed this it was some what easy and most of the functions that come with it standard were just either a 1 or 0 to enable. If your hosting company is not enableing everything well I dont think thats right cause i Know most people have to pay for the stats service and should get every stat that the software offers.

Barron · 2005-05-15, 06:42 PM

What Cleo said.

I should explain better. I can see daily and hourly hits and requests. But any another other info goes into a running total for the month.

I dont look at log stats everyday. I want/need to be able to see what happened yesterday or even the day before. If I can drill down to the day, like yesterday or last week. I havent figured out how.

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Barron · 2005-05-15, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juggernaut

Are you guys hosting your own server? Or with a company? I think that may be the issue. If your getting hosted someplace you should call them cause they are not giving you all the functions of that software. Or maybe its a linux/unix thing. I get all this info
If you guys want to see what I get go here. It's not locked down
http://www.jollycams.com/stats
When I installed this it was some what easy and most of the functions that come with it standard were just either a 1 or 0 to enable. If your hosting company is not enableing everything well I dont think thats right cause i Know most people have to pay for the stats service and should get every stat that the software offers.

I'm doing both. With the webhosts, I load my own copy of Awstats and setup the conf file myself.

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juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 07:24 PM

Yeah that is 1 of the few bad things about the software, not being able to drill down. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this software is great. I seemed to me from the posts that some of the people are/were not getting some of the features with this package. You should know like I do that getting those features is simple. Now is someone whats the geo stuff then I can see an issue as its the pm that needs to be installed. I'm still thinking of getting the geo-city pm but at this point I don't know cause I trust the stats from the software about 70%. And when I look over the updates for that db I just don't know if its worth it. Jugg..

cd34 · 2005-05-15, 08:26 PM

Barron,

I think the issue is:

Who were your top referrering sites on the 9th of May?

Try doing that in Awstats on May 15th.

There are very few packages that keep the data in a detailed enough format to give you that data.

If the 9th of May had a lot of signups, you could go back and figure out what happened differently that day. AWStats does give you referrer stats, but, you cannot break it down and look at last Monday's data today.

juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 08:41 PM

Well being I have full access to my server I can do that. I'm not playing devils advocate here. Heres what I do for anyone that has access. Over the past 49 hours I have backed up all my logs as to start fresh. But when I merge the logs with the bat files at the end of the day the file also copies the html generated pages to a differant directory. This way I can go back to that day. But you are all 100% correct the drill down feature is just not there. I know all this seems like allot of work to do in order to get certain features but the most work I did was writing the bats. Which are simple dos commands. What I really hate about it is there is no orginization if you dont copy the html someplace else for that day. Cause it will just give you a boat load of dates that are just all over the place. The only thing you can do if you have not copied the html or can't copy it or run bat files is copy and paste the darn text from the stats and then and put it notepad and open it in excel and then sort the cells. Which really sucks. Now here i go again with that whoson software. All these features are there. I know free open source software is great but sometimes, just sometimes a pay package is better. Seriously look it over. Its not bad at all. Anyway I will talk to my friend who is a serious nerd programmer and see if he can write something that can help this awstats problem. Maybe something that will export to an access db or xml. But getting him off the ass from watching SG1 is a whole other issue. Jugg..

Jim · 2005-05-15, 08:59 PM

We use them and they have been a huge problem on this server. If we didn't have to use them, we wouldn't.

juggernaut · 2005-05-15, 09:02 PM

Jim you mean awstats or the whoson that I like?

SirMoby · 2005-05-16, 08:38 AM

Just because AWStats has something called daily reports does not mean it's really a daily report. Try using AWStats to tell you something simple like how many hits came from came from that top gallery spot you purchased on January 10?

Jim · 2005-05-16, 08:40 AM

AWstats...
Greenie has to use them for the link list. And there have been plenty of times where National Net just wants to shut them down. But, Greenie needs them so we move on.

ronnie · 2005-05-16, 09:00 AM

I like wusage because it shows hits down to every page on your domain. Nice to look back on older sites for traffic or not. You can see what traffic each page is getting, not just the top 25, ect. And of course referring urls for the traffic.

ronnie

Greenguy · 2005-05-16, 09:23 AM

Nat Net said that the log files for link-o-rama.com were taking too long to compile in AW so they changed me over to Webalizer which is not that bad.

Barron · 2005-05-16, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cd34

Barron,

I think the issue is:

Who were your top referrering sites on the 9th of May?

Try doing that in Awstats on May 15th.

There are very few packages that keep the data in a detailed enough format to give you that data.

If the 9th of May had a lot of signups, you could go back and figure out what happened differently that day. AWStats does give you referrer stats, but, you cannot break it down and look at last Monday's data today.

Sometimes I wonder where my head is at. I track ad impressions, no clue why didnt include the page impression in the tracking. Im needing to do some changes because of this Norton thing anyway. I'll get the page impression added while I'm at it and track it myself.

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cellinis · 2005-05-19, 02:56 PM

I have a simple solution for the guys who have time and like numbers (like me

) I simply print the refferer stats and keyword list from Awstats for every domain. That, along with analog and webalizer working in tandom gives very accurate stats and I can actually find the top referring site of any given day within 2 minutes

Of course, takes an hour each day, but since my personal milestone is to make my conversions drop down to 1:100 - i really think it pays off... who sent what hits that converted how!

Btw... one major issue that I do have with Awstats (or any other for that matter) is that there is no single place to check the subdomain stats

2005-05-15, 09:28 AM	#1
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Awstats, who uses it and whats your likes and dislikes from it. I use it and I'm not sure if this software is 100% on the money. I guess you get what you pay for. My time stamps always are screwed up. One day they are correct, next day they are screwy. Plus I hate that it wont give you stamps on http status codes, connection from sites, and the pages. I have been looking over whoson.com and I think I'm going to buy this stuff. The $300 price tag for the remote version is a little pricy but man it's real nice and seems more on the money then awstats. Works on IIS an Apache.

2005-05-15, 09:32 AM	#2
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I like AWStats very much for something and it is sooo pretty too. It sucks at telling you daily info and I just discovered Wusage after my new host was nice enough to install them for me. They are butt ass ugly but show things like daily who is sending me the most traffic, time of visit, exit pages, referral URL and tons of other info. Seems like no one stats program does it all so I went with a host that gave me AWStats, Wusage, and Analog. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-05-15, 03:39 PM	#3
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	Cleo, you're getting time of visit on Wusage? hmmm, I need to talk the guy that installed ours. I'm trying to remember if I was getting it when we had it on our first host, 4 years ago. Wusage does have great daily stats. I love them, and asked for Wusage specifically. __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-05-15, 03:45 PM	#4
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I see time under Trails Followed and Traffic by Hour if that is what you mean. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-05-15, 04:23 PM	#6
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	ahh those. I was more interested in times for the autorized users and top visitor sites. Had times for those in the last stats and it makes it easier (for me) to match up things when someone is trying something funky. __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-05-15, 04:11 PM	#5
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	I think the only people that aren't using Wusage are those that have never tried it. The reports may not be pretty but who cares? The reports are accurate, it's cheap and support is pretty good. Wusage Rocks!

2005-05-15, 04:26 PM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	On the only domain where I would have authorized users, foxyangel.com, we use Strongbox and it doesn't use htaccess authorization so there is nothing to report in my stats. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-05-15, 05:46 PM	#8
Barron You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try' Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 166	I liked awstats until I read this thread. Now that I know wusage will give me daily, I may switch. In the meantime, check your awstats conf file. Contact your host and tell them you think something is up with timestamps and you dont think the clock is keeping time accurately. -

2005-05-15, 05:47 PM	#9
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well man I am really pushing this whoson today. When I was demo-ing it over the past few days the things I liked about it were. 1) I can remote access it from a webpage or a client. I don't like to remotedesktop to my server all the time. 2) any funny business someone is trying on the site can be locked down automaticly. Ie user tries to access restricted pages or directories more then XXX amount of times = block user. You set that amount. It will also mail you and a 2nd party if you want. It gives you who is, dns, reverse dns etc. Their is a chat section for live support on your site or what ever you want to use it for. You can dynamicly invite who ever is on your site to chat. Which might be nice to tell the bad guys you are watching. But anyway I'm sure it's not the end all be all but man it has alot of features. Ok enuffff with promoting them. lol.

2005-05-15, 06:04 PM	#11
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I get hits and BW used with awstats but I don't see the URLs of my top referrals for the day with awstats. I was using Analog just for daily top referrals but Wusage gives me this and so much more. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-05-15, 06:29 PM	#12
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Are you guys hosting your own server? Or with a company? I think that may be the issue. If your getting hosted someplace you should call them cause they are not giving you all the functions of that software. Or maybe its a linux/unix thing. I get all this info If you guys want to see what I get go here. It's not locked down http://www.jollycams.com/stats When I installed this it was some what easy and most of the functions that come with it standard were just either a 1 or 0 to enable. If your hosting company is not enableing everything well I dont think thats right cause i Know most people have to pay for the stats service and should get every stat that the software offers.

2005-05-15, 06:42 PM	#13
Barron You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try' Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 166	What Cleo said. I should explain better. I can see daily and hourly hits and requests. But any another other info goes into a running total for the month. I dont look at log stats everyday. I want/need to be able to see what happened yesterday or even the day before. If I can drill down to the day, like yesterday or last week. I havent figured out how. -

2005-05-15, 07:24 PM	#15
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Yeah that is 1 of the few bad things about the software, not being able to drill down. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying this software is great. I seemed to me from the posts that some of the people are/were not getting some of the features with this package. You should know like I do that getting those features is simple. Now is someone whats the geo stuff then I can see an issue as its the pm that needs to be installed. I'm still thinking of getting the geo-city pm but at this point I don't know cause I trust the stats from the software about 70%. And when I look over the updates for that db I just don't know if its worth it. Jugg..

2005-05-15, 08:26 PM	#16
cd34 a.k.a. Sparky Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: West Palm Beach, FL, USA Posts: 2,396	Barron, I think the issue is: Who were your top referrering sites on the 9th of May? Try doing that in Awstats on May 15th. There are very few packages that keep the data in a detailed enough format to give you that data. If the 9th of May had a lot of signups, you could go back and figure out what happened differently that day. AWStats does give you referrer stats, but, you cannot break it down and look at last Monday's data today. __________________ SnapReplay.com a different way to share photos - iPhone & Android

2005-05-15, 08:41 PM	#17
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Well being I have full access to my server I can do that. I'm not playing devils advocate here. Heres what I do for anyone that has access. Over the past 49 hours I have backed up all my logs as to start fresh. But when I merge the logs with the bat files at the end of the day the file also copies the html generated pages to a differant directory. This way I can go back to that day. But you are all 100% correct the drill down feature is just not there. I know all this seems like allot of work to do in order to get certain features but the most work I did was writing the bats. Which are simple dos commands. What I really hate about it is there is no orginization if you dont copy the html someplace else for that day. Cause it will just give you a boat load of dates that are just all over the place. The only thing you can do if you have not copied the html or can't copy it or run bat files is copy and paste the darn text from the stats and then and put it notepad and open it in excel and then sort the cells. Which really sucks. Now here i go again with that whoson software. All these features are there. I know free open source software is great but sometimes, just sometimes a pay package is better. Seriously look it over. Its not bad at all. Anyway I will talk to my friend who is a serious nerd programmer and see if he can write something that can help this awstats problem. Maybe something that will export to an access db or xml. But getting him off the ass from watching SG1 is a whole other issue. Jugg..

2005-05-15, 08:59 PM	#18
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	We use them and they have been a huge problem on this server. If we didn't have to use them, we wouldn't.

2005-05-15, 09:02 PM	#19
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Jim you mean awstats or the whoson that I like?

2005-05-16, 08:38 AM	#20
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	Just because AWStats has something called daily reports does not mean it's really a daily report. Try using AWStats to tell you something simple like how many hits came from came from that top gallery spot you purchased on January 10?

2005-05-16, 08:40 AM	#21
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	AWstats... Greenie has to use them for the link list. And there have been plenty of times where National Net just wants to shut them down. But, Greenie needs them so we move on.

2005-05-16, 09:00 AM	#22
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	I like wusage because it shows hits down to every page on your domain. Nice to look back on older sites for traffic or not. You can see what traffic each page is getting, not just the top 25, ect. And of course referring urls for the traffic. ronnie

2005-05-16, 09:23 AM	#23
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	Nat Net said that the log files for link-o-rama.com were taking too long to compile in AW so they changed me over to Webalizer which is not that bad. __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-05-19, 02:56 PM	#25
cellinis They have the Internet on computers, now? Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Paris Posts: 146	I have a simple solution for the guys who have time and like numbers (like me ) I simply print the refferer stats and keyword list from Awstats for every domain. That, along with analog and webalizer working in tandom gives very accurate stats and I can actually find the top referring site of any given day within 2 minutes Of course, takes an hour each day, but since my personal milestone is to make my conversions drop down to 1:100 - i really think it pays off... who sent what hits that converted how! Btw... one major issue that I do have with Awstats (or any other for that matter) is that there is no single place to check the subdomain stats __________________ Submit your freesites & galleries here and here.