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Old 2005-02-08, 04:32 PM   #1
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adult earners

anyone knows whats up with them ?

no updates for ages. Have tried to contact russ for ages regarding a bulk order for traffic

have i lost my 2500 $ on intelligent webs i have earned ?

i sure hope not
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Old 2005-02-08, 09:13 PM   #2
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anyone knows whats up with them ?
Did you try his live support and ICQ? How about the AE board? I haven't seen him for a few months, but I didn't go look for him either.

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Old 2005-02-09, 05:20 AM   #3
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Yeah where are those from AE, no updates no nothing...But maybe we must give them some more time?

I hope they are back soon...
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Old 2005-02-10, 01:28 AM   #4
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AE hasn't worked for a year or so I would suggest sending your traffic somewhere else
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Old 2005-02-14, 05:14 PM   #5
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they used to be really good but I too have had no luck trying to get support
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Old 2005-02-14, 06:08 PM   #6
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They sorta died off after ARS got rid of the free trials last year, didn't they?

I was just starting to promote them when it happened, so my knowledge on it is limited.
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Old 2005-02-14, 06:25 PM   #7
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nooze, i think you and I are in the same boat, Russ seems to have screwed over everyone associated with AE. Aside from collecting well over 5,000 emails for him, I built two byot's and linked my affiliate program into it plus was running his site GayInform.com until he took it back without notice about 4 weeks ago (it was supposed to be transferred to my name at the registrar but Russ kept saying that the transfer "was failing" for one reason or another). I have opened up several support tickets & have ICQ'd Russ directly on 177673837 but I have heard nothing back.

I think its time to stop supporting him and all websites associated with him.

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Old 2005-02-14, 09:05 PM   #8
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They sorta died off after ARS got rid of the free trials last year, didn't they?

I was just starting to promote them when it happened, so my knowledge on it is limited.

thats about the time greenguy yes

he still has managed to launch a new program or 2 -
one of them being www.juicydvd.com


chilihost - sorry to hear he wasted so much of your time man - you are right I think it is indeed time we all moved on and wrote them off.
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Old 2005-02-14, 10:17 PM   #9
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LOL @ juicydvd, Russ forced everyone to sign up for that program and used our collected email lists to promote the hell out of it. He was supposed to give instant payouts via epassporte, I got a few sales from my those mailings but never any payouts.

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Old 2005-02-14, 11:17 PM   #10
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yeah russ now has himself a pretty nice mailing list for himself built off of other peoples hard work... he is a scammer and a cheat
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Old 2005-02-15, 07:49 AM   #11
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Yeah - that list has to be fucking huge!

Refresh my memory - as I said, I had just started to use them before the ARS thing - it was pretty much just an email collection program & then they'd send out their newsletters with your referral codes on a % of the links, correct?
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Old 2005-02-15, 11:44 AM   #12
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First, Luke... Yes, I redirected GayInform back to the IW servers. You knew GayInform was always a TopSites list for gay sites and were going to set it up again as a topsites site to allow others to reregister their sites again.

After over six months, the homepage still had "we had a server crash, please bear with us over the next few days while we rebuild" and very little else other than your own affiliate links - (almost as bad as the AE hompage saying announcement coming soon).

So yes, I took it back.

As for sales on JuicyDVD - The site is making sales daily and people are getting paid instantly.

I dont know where you are seeing a number of sales on JuicyDVD however there arent any on your account other than a $2.99 commission awarded for a "payment by other methods" order whose payment still hasnt been received and as such, commission still not validated.

As for AdultEarners.. I realise everyone is pissed off with us but let me explain a little...

Firstly, our main income came from ARS under their "child" accounts program - meaning that we got a commission on every sale generated from webmasters who had set up unique accounts for use with AdultEarners - ARS ended their EITF program at about the same time as their free trials which meant AE earnings dropped by about $10,000 a month overnight....

After a few months of trying to find suitable non-shaving sponsors, we thought we were back ontrack when some major changes occured at Hotmail, Yahoo and AOL with regards their spam filters etc - Our delivery rates dropped from 95% down to under 20%. Im sure that this is also the reason for the drop in payouts from other cash email programs - It has become extremely hard to bulk mail, even if it is personalized...

Myself and Panksy have been trying different delivery methods through Dec and Jan however because of the size of our mailouts, we are starting to find ourselves up against the wall and Im considering ending AdultEarners as a program.

We still have a few things to try however if it turns out that we do need to close AE then:

1: All webmasters will have a link within their account screens to download their own email database for their own use.

2: IW Commissions will be paid up to the point of official closure.

3: AE database will continue to run in the background collecting emails from forms on old pages etc, send promotions with wm codes if and when possible.

Whatever happens, we wont be shutting down AE completely - just not encouraging webmasters to promote it further, unless they are doing so to build/download their own lists without the need for custom programming.

If this does happen then I think it will be better overall for webmasters with lists of under 20,000 emails in AE.

A single webmaster can quite easily mail out an opt in list of his own to 20k, and will most likely get a good delivery rate - the problems for AE are caused when the numbers increase to 1m+ - Even though we are double opt in, our server IPs get blocked by most providers within 12hrs of starting a mail out - before we even get 1/4 of the way through....

Anyway, still a few things to try, Im still keeping my fingers crossed that Pansky can come up with a workable solution.

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Old 2005-02-15, 12:06 PM   #13
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What did ARS's Experts In The Field thing have to do with it?
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Old 2005-02-15, 12:21 PM   #14
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Nothing that wasnt overcomeable - but a loss of 10k a month income virtually overnight didnt help when we had staff and server costs of over 6k a month.

Ive nothing agaisnt ARS, dont get me wrong, they had to adapt their program to move forward - and Im not saying ARS killed AE - far from it... Its just that that is the time when AE started falling down.

I kept the staff going from my own pocket to the point where we had almost adapted ourselves and had another sponsor ready however then the delivery rates began dropping to the point where I had to let some staff/servers go to avoid personal bankruptcy...
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Old 2005-02-15, 01:21 PM   #15
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I stopped promoting AE sometime ago too. Wonder what's happening at their end.

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Old 2005-02-15, 02:52 PM   #16
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OK - I just didn't see any connection between the EITF stuff & your program.

And I was in the same boat as you when ARS changed - not quite as bad, but my income dropped quite a bit as well.
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Old 2005-02-15, 03:04 PM   #17
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good job at tryin to save face russ you piece of crap


poh you lost soem ARS money - boo fuckign hoo - cry me a river - we were the guys earnign you all the money and you couldnt even tell us what was going on

you know your name is shit now dont you !?!!?! if you dont then you've just been informed in this post and you've seen all the others

there's nothin intelligent about you or your support mate - the way you scammed us all was kinda tricky tho - karama's a bitch fucker - sleep tight
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