Fucking NUTTER Thinks My Site Is Real!! (ideas??)

kristian · 2005-07-08, 02:23 PM

Okay, so I run slavewifeblog.com, among others. Obviously I go to lengths to make it seem real, but a site I was linking to actually believes it, has removed their links, and is now slamming my site with an article written on his! WTF!!!! LMFAS

It takes all kinds!!

Should I do anything? Anything I CAN do? Or just leave it and accept the free publicity?

Kristian

kristian · 2005-07-08, 02:25 PM

oh, the nutter's link

: alternativealbany.com

Useless · 2005-07-08, 02:32 PM

Holy fucking whore mother in heaven, that dude is completely cracked. Whines about 2257 and alt.com.

BTW, he lives about an hour away from me in New Lebanon, NY.

kristian · 2005-07-08, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

BTW, he lives about an hour away from me in New Lebanon, NY.

LOL

What will $1K get me??

j/k!!!

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-08, 03:12 PM

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites. First of all if you keep with the news you'd realize yahoo has removed all bdsm related chats and images because they are being sued for not removing a cached imaged from another site. You obviosuly don't understand the law at all and i suggest you read up on it. To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You site tries to promote the fact that its okay for a man looking to be a master to not be safe and sane. You are going against everything every other bdsm website says. You are trying to tell wouldbe masters and slaves that its okay to be treated as dogs. I don't care if your intention is merely to make a few dollars in the adult industry, you can still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You are not doing so, I am. So are most other commercial websites.

Look at the sites I link to? Do you really think Mistress V is not making money? She makes a great deal of money and promotes anti-violence in the process. Same for katja Minx. In fact she makes probably more money then all of us combined. Or how about that of Buck Angel who is a real life transexual and one of the first female to male adult porn sites to be successful, yet he lives the lifestyle.

Most people are not out there telling others its okay to be abusive, even those who are not real about it. Most of them still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You said screw it, you don't care who gets abuses who as long as you get your good old american dollar in the process. Hell why not just go make snuff films, theres far more money and you promote the same general idea, safety and life is not to be valued as long as someone gets there rocks off and someonbe else gets paid.

kristian · 2005-07-08, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites. First of all if you keep with the news you'd realize yahoo has removed all bdsm related chats and images because they are being sued for not removing a cached imaged from another site. You obviosuly don't understand the law at all and i suggest you read up on it. To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You site tries to promote the fact that its okay for a man looking to be a master to not be safe and sane. You are going against everything every other bdsm website says. You are trying to tell wouldbe masters and slaves that its okay to be treated as dogs. I don't care if your intention is merely to make a few dollars in the adult industry, you can still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You are not doing so, I am. So are most other commercial websites.

Look at the sites I link to? Do you really think Mistress V is not making money? She makes a great deal of money and promotes anti-violence in the process. Same for katja Minx. In fact she makes probably more money then all of us combined. Or how about that of Buck Angel who is a real life transexual and one of the first female to male adult porn sites to be successful, yet he lives the lifestyle.

Most people are not out there telling others its okay to be abusive, even those who are not real about it. Most of them still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You said screw it, you don't care who gets abuses who as long as you get your good old american dollar in the process. Hell why not just go make snuff films, theres far more money and you promote the same general idea, safety and life is not to be valued as long as someone gets there rocks off and someonbe else gets paid.

I would usually make an intelligent reply to any negative remarks made against me. In truth, I honestly believe you are a few cans short of a six pack, so I will keep this short and light-lighted.

You're this offended now? You ain't seen nothing yet.

Mr. Blue · 2005-07-08, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites.

Actually I post at CC and do know your posts and you never seemed cracked but there's always a first time for everything

Quote:

To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

I'll be the first to correct you here...she's not breaking the law at all. You see where she's from? England...see 2257 is an American law, not a world law, so you're completely WRONG and out of line when you suggest she's breaking the law.

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Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You'll find that 99% of most adult blogs are more fantasy mixed with a nice dose of advertising. People that are into BSDM will know which sites are legit and which aren't...I think you're naive to the fact that most of adult blogging is mere fantasy than anything based in reality.

As for making a profit from alt.com, etc, and selling other products...welcome to adult webmastering 101.

One thing I would like to add...you don't have to link to her site and you can write your blog articles about her site, but you're probably not doing yourself any good in a business sense right now. Adult webmasters, more than any other group, rely heavily on a persons reputation.

Honestly the way I would have handled it...if you're a master and really believe in this stuff, I would have just dropped links with her, but I wouldn't have posted an article about her...just a bad business move.

Useless · 2005-07-08, 03:58 PM

Fucking newbie.

This is a business. We're here to make money from people's twisted fantasies. Just because you don't agree with the theme of a FICTIONAL blog, doesn't mean that surfers don't. I'll guarantee you that for every simple little shit like yourself, there's 100 guys slamming their stiff pricks against their keyboards when they read Kristian's text.

Another thing - surfers don't care about 2257.

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-08, 04:13 PM

...You see where she's from? England...see 2257 is an American law...

Actually you are only half correct as reality check network corp is based out of Brooklyn, NY, which makes it a violation

... People that are into BSDM will know which sites are legit and which aren't...

Have you raed the comments of her posters? They want to learn from her or I wouldn't have a problem with it!

...but you're probably not doing yourself any good in a business sense right now...

You have to realize my site is not intended for porn seekers. If it was I'd agree. However those who read my site are lifestylers and I get tons of comments from others agreeing with me. They are almost always happy when I point out a website is a fraud in it for the money. In fact it tends to bring me more sales on porn toys and such.

On a further note., I never meant to offend anyone. It was not I who asked for a link trade. Typically when you ask another blog for a link trade, you know if they are getting the type of traffic you blog is aiming at. Being how my site is nothing but lifestylers of bdsm, not porn seekers, the request never should have been sent.

Obviously if I am trading links with a website, the website in question is getting bdsm lifestyler traffic not people interested in porn. This was not a fault of my own I did not ask for this trade. I merely posted why we are not trading links and told the lifestylers who read my blog why they should not trust what she says. If I don't do that, someone is going to get seriously abused.

However I must say, my compliments to the webmistress. You are extremely talented. I was totally fooled and had no idea you were a commercial blog. Had I realized this I would have denied the request from the start. Yes I have seen so much abuse in bdsm that I believed you were legit and in your own words "on a learning curve"

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-08, 10:17 PM

oh and something tink just pointed out to me: Why would anyone say she lives in the uk with a post like this: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20487 Does she not realize 2257 is only a US law?

Mr. Blue · 2005-07-08, 10:44 PM

Honestly, you don't seem like a nut in any of your other posts...I just think you've lost perspective in this instance. This was a bad trade from your prospective, drop it, move on…as you’re going to get the rude awakening if you keep digging that most of the fetish blogs out there are written by adult webmasters. Is this a bad thing? No, not really, if someone goes to her site and joins alt.com they’ll hook up with other people of this same interest. Just like someone going to your blog and buying a book at Amazon on the topic will also learn more about the topic.

Porn is a business, if each fetish that existed could only be promoted by people devoted to that fetish most of these fetishes would get no attention at all. Example, I promote all types of pages…is it wrong for me to write gay galleries? Transsexual galleries? BDSM sites? Even if I have no interest in them? Or do I promote them, allow people to be exposed to the fetish, allow them to search and give these fetishes a try…the person gets lead to their secret desire, I make a stipend from it, they go on and learn more.

Hate to say it, but adult webmasters that are promoting all fetishes in some ways allow the fetish to enter the mainstream.

Anyway, your opinions are set in stone at the moment, and I’ll graciously back out and let you have the last word if you need to reply to this thread. I think you’re overreacting and don’t have a full grasp of the adult industry of yet. In a year come back and revisit this thread and you may feel differently regarding it

Useless · 2005-07-08, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

oh and something tink just pointed out to me: Why would anyone say she lives in the uk with a post like this: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20487 Does she not realize 2257 is only a US law?

Get off the 2257 thing. It's not getting you anywhere. It is only a U.S law, no matter what the dumb shits at that newbie board told you.

Here's what you fail to grasp- Kristian is a marketing professional. You are a freak. He got more traffic while showering today than you will get this month. He bases his decisions on what sells and what pleases the market, not on what you feel is honest and true in your small segment of the BDSM lifestyle. Meow

Boogie · 2005-07-09, 02:32 AM

this thread is hilarious.

Bill · 2005-07-09, 03:18 AM

I've known other people active in various dom-sub and bdsm communities and the lifestyle, and they take their mores, customs, and traditions very seriously.

They are very vehement about it.

There's a big difference between lifestyle concerns and business concerns.

You folks shouldn't wrack this guy just because he is being true to the traditions of his community.

Kristian should just be flattered that his fiction seemed so believeable.

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-09, 09:55 AM

Okay, I have pissed off a great deal of people and re-reading this thread I can completely see why. You are all right I am being anal about this. I think part of the problem is I am completely being misunderstood.

First of all, I have no problem with adult websites being completely commercial based. Way to go if you are successful. I do realize a vast majority of these sites and blogs are done by those in the adult industry.

The problem I had, was the extremes this bog went to, compaired to what most others are doing. Would it really have been so hard for this blogger to take the extra step and instead of saying "contact me on alt.com and my master will make arrangments for me meet and fuck you" to instead say "my master will review the profiles and speak with everyone who contacts me to ensure they are serious but as of yet no one has been refused". Same exact message. Only difference, those who do think the blog is real, see some genuine care taking place, not abuse.

Or instead of saying "threw scraps of food on the floor for me to eat" said "threw scraps of food in my dog bowl". Or instead of comments like "my master said I am never to think, simpily obey" saying "when my master is arround, I am simpily to do as commanded without a second thought of hesitation".

The difference in all these things is those who believe this site is real, do not say "oh so this is what bdsm is. Nice! I need a slave like that". All the same messages are there, only presented without the abuse factor. The people looking to wack their weenies while reading the site, are going to do so either way. Hell I'd even go for it if the blog has a little note on a disclaimer page or something similiar that said "this is my sexual fantasies, these ar not real".

I am not trying to be an asshole about this. I truely think its sites like these that cause people to start thinking this is the way bdsm is done. In result you see cases like http://www.queenstribune.com/copblot...INDICTEDB.html
where a guy take slaves (as in kidnappe d women) to a dungeon and tortures them and creates a website about it. Then you see laws like 2257 come around to stop this kind of action and in result take away freedom of speach and expression for the rest of the adult industry (in the US).

So now I am considering tking down my analistic review of the site and putting up something that says "I stopped trading links with this site because I found out it is a fantasy blog and not real in any way". The difference being I don't bash the blog, just let my visitors know why the link is gone.

amber438 · 2005-07-09, 10:47 AM

Changing the subject just a tad, I'd like to know something from ABitDifferent.

Do alternative lifestyle people advocate having sex with minors?
Because in your blog, you describe what puberty is and is not and the fact that you are arrtacted to "young girls" HERE
Admittedly you did not give and age to which you are attracted. But the jist of the "article" was to inform people that a ped is not someone who likes 14-16 year old girls but much younger, pre-pubescent. But, nevertheless, I hope you know that it is against the law in the U. S..
But quite frankly, if this is the way you think, and you post it on an alternative lifestyle blog, well, it just does not belong there.
Just my humble opinion.

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-09, 11:23 AM

First of all to everyone who read replied or glanced at this post, I am sorry. Sometimes, we just are out of line. I have posted a message for everyone about this on my blog, removed all old entries, and did my best to remedy the situation.

alternativealbanycom/index.php?entry=entry050709-101037

Second to amber,

Actually one of my readers messaged me about this matter. I will explain to you precicely what I explained to them. If you goto the really popular blog getting 40+ comments a day, you see it tends to be because they talk about contreversal subjects. Not everything I say on my blog is real, just like the rest of you. Sometimes I say things just to invote the reaction of the people who read my blog.

If you read the entry, you also must have noticed its also one of m y most commented on entries. What I claim on my blog and what I do in real life is often times very different.

As far as any legal issues, text on the screen has a very different set of laws then any other type of media on the internet. Its laws are very loose on that. Just like in america one can publish books about sex with minors, the same is true on the internet. Don't read to deep into my blog, I never said I wasn't a webmaster. I am just a webmaster with a kink.

amber438 · 2005-07-09, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

First of all to everyone who read replied or glanced at this post, I am sorry. Sometimes, we just are out of line. I have posted a message for everyone about this on my blog, removed all old entries, and did my best to remedy the situation.

alternativealbanycom/index.php?entry=entry050709-101037

Second to amber,

Actually one of my readers messaged me about this matter. I will explain to you precicely what I explained to them. If you goto the really popular blog getting 40+ comments a day, you see it tends to be because they talk about contreversal subjects. Not everything I say on my blog is real, just like the rest of you. Sometimes I say things just to invote the reaction of the people who read my blog.

If you read the entry, you also must have noticed its also one of m y most commented on entries. What I claim on my blog and what I do in real life is often times very different.

As far as any legal issues, text on the screen has a very different set of laws then any other type of media on the internet. Its laws are very loose on that. Just like in america one can publish books about sex with minors, the same is true on the internet. Don't read to deep into my blog, I never said I wasn't a webmaster. I am just a webmaster with a kink.

Interesting..so you can post "bullshit" just for the hell of it but when someone else on another blog posts what they do it's wrong?

Uhmm..I don't get it..

Kristian, I guess this means you can keep doing what you are doing, capice?

Mr. Blue · 2005-07-09, 12:09 PM

Well, I said I wouldn't comment on the Pedophile thing until it was mentioned on the boards...as it is now...I will talk about it

That article you wrote, "Pedophilia or age play" is basically child molester 101 type writing. I used to be an IRCop and I was an operator on over 200 chat channels…half the time I spent on IRC was k-lining and banning sexual deviants who would troll chatrooms looking for underaged chatters. You say that children shouldn’t be on IRC, well I would see people like you going into family_chat channels, into teens_only channels, trivia channels, and would try to pickup obviously under aged chatters. People like you make IRC dangerous for teens and children.

This line from your blog, “As to how young I will go, I won't say but if you are a minor by law, contact me and I'll chat ya up

” Is personally revolting and I have no doubt that you’re most sincere when you said this.

Now you’re trying to say that this isn’t how you really felt, blah blah blah, that this is…Fantasy perhaps? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. You’ve gone on ranting about how slavewifeblog.com isn’t real, etc, and now you’re saying your own blog isn’t real?

Hopefully you’ll seek some professional help for your pedophilia problem before the authorities or better yet an angry father, catches up with you. As for adult webmaster and the adult community…I honestly couldn’t see many people jumping at the chance to trade links with you, associate their pages with yours, etc.

UW will come along in a minute and give the rough cut of what I just said, hopefully it will sound something like, "You fucking cocksucking pervert castrate yourself already."

kristian · 2005-07-09, 11:27 AM

I had hoped to refrain from posting my final comments on this disappointing issue for at least a few days. However, amber438, in her astute appraisal of alternativealbany.com, has uncovered the truth about this person.

BACKGROUND

I am quite an experienced seo, an adult industry webmaster of many years, a blog newbie, and a screenwriter. I setup a blog and began the process of investigating link exchanges based on keywords on the first 3 pages of google. alternativealbany.com appeared on my list. I checked it out, not thoroughly enough, and wrote a polite letter asking for a link trade. So my troubles began. You see, the owner, ABitDifferent assumed what I was writing in my blog was real. Me, being a seasoned adult webmaster, did not pic up on this. I am so used to dealing with other adult webmasters, it didn't occur to me that this was a surfer, who was genuinely sucked into my marketing efforts.

MY DISCOVERY

After numerous insulting emails and comments (which i have not posted on my blog), and the fiasco here on greenguy and jim, I decided to take a closer look at his site. He was clearly not a pleasant person and I wanted to know just who I had stupidly traded my links. It turns out that his peculiar behavior here is mirrored in his site.

Here is where this person advocated child-molestation (no pics, just text):

Where ABitDifferent Says It's OK To Fuck Children

Here is where ABitDifferent writes about incest, child rape, and underage sex :

Link To ABitDifferents Site About Incest, Rape, Child Sex

I include the links here by way of telling everyone what I now know about this person. There are no pics and whether or not this makes it ok for me to even post them is doubtful, but I have do so to expose this person.

I have contacted numerous authorites, including his host. The reason I have delayed since yesterday posting this info - as UW, Jim, and Mr Blue Know - is because I wanted the authorities to see the content before he had time to remove it.

MY LESSON

I've been doing trades and webmaster work for so long that I am a little jaded. This is the same reason I have not argued with this person here (after numerous drama threads over the years, you just get jaded). My lesson is to wake up, stop working automatically, and be careful who I trade links with in the future.

This man is clearly very strange in more ways than I care mention. I am, of course, speaking from being a tad put-out by him, but I am nonetheless speaking the truth. See the links yourself, see the way he re-acted to my adult blog, his posts here, and you will naturally see my point.

I will comment no further on this subject, here or elsewhere. I made a mistake associating myself with this person, I have exposed him and informed 7 different authorities, so I will now walk away and return to biz as usual.

Have a nice day peopel and I am sorry for sullying the board with such a sordid fiasco.

Kristian

furrygirl · 2005-07-11, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber438

Because in your blog, you describe what puberty is and is not and the fact that you are arrtacted to "young girls" HERE

You beat me to it. I just read that from Tasty Trixie's blog a week ago. She did preserve a snippet of the deleted entry:

"I like younger girls. What age? I am not willing to talk about this as certain people who read this blog need not know. However I will say I like very young girls but am NOT a pedophile. Have I ever had a sexual relationship with a younge girl? Almost! Unfortunately, it didn't quite work out as expected.

What about the laws? Well I need not follow the laws of any man. I follow the laws of my conscience. Unfortunately I have some done some fairly terrable things in my past, but thats in my past and I can't change that. At the time of this writing, I have an entirely different outlook on life and my conscience guides me correctly. So if I see a girl who is not legal, that won't stop me from hitting on her."

Useless · 2005-07-09, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

So now I am considering tking down my analistic review of the site and putting up something that says "I stopped trading links with this site because I found out it is a fantasy blog and not real in any way". The difference being I don't bash the blog, just let my visitors know why the link is gone.

That's pretty fucking anal in itself. Should I start leaving post-it notes on my sites for all of the links that I pull? Sounds to me that you need to step out of your dungeon every once in a while and get a breath of fresh air.

And now please respond to Amber's query.

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-09, 12:31 PM

kristian,

Do you understand I am not tink? I have never sent any emails sense I emailed you pointing you to my article. Its as simple as that. You can believe what you will about the subject, it really matters not to me. I am sorry for what I said on the forums as I posted already. I have been out of line sense the start. Perhaps you missed that, perhaps not.

Clearly I have no problem with you reporting me if you feel something needed repotring. Thats makes you a good person. I have no doubts legal officials will see exactly what you fail to see. For starters, the story you posted a link to was provided by a content provider clearly stated at the bottom of the page. Did you no there are adult story content providers? Or the fact stories here in america are totally legal reguardless of the topic?

Then with the entry you are referring to, look at how its written. I never promote anyone do anything. I merely challenge a law. Speaking of laws did you know they are considering lowing the age of consent there to 15? Hey what do you know exactly the type of stuff I challenge about american laws in that entry. I am very careful in my choice of words when I right entries to avoid legal hassles. You don't seem to understand what you write is a whole lot different then pictures in the eyes of the law.

I agree its a topic that been beaten to death. Let us end it.

guitar riff · 2005-07-09, 11:47 PM

A bit different are you mad because she actually writes realy well? Im not into BDSM but thats some awesome reading and if you dont want to trade with it so be it move on . You aren't the Internet police so don't try and be. As the ol saying goes clean off your own front porch before you try to clean off someone elses.

ABitDifferent · 2005-07-13, 10:50 AM

SLANDER - A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel.

Libel - a published or broadcast false and defamatory statement which damages the reputation of an individual.

The point? Statements such as "...in view of impending investigations..." fall under this catagory and are thus illegal to make.

April/kristian get the drift? As I said in my last post, This topic has been beat to death... let us end it HERE!

2005-07-08, 02:23 PM	#1
kristian Porn Movie Peddler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malta (France In Nov) Posts: 1,631	Fucking NUTTER Thinks My Site Is Real!! (ideas??) Okay, so I run slavewifeblog.com, among others. Obviously I go to lengths to make it seem real, but a site I was linking to actually believes it, has removed their links, and is now slamming my site with an article written on his! WTF!!!! LMFAS It takes all kinds!! Should I do anything? Anything I CAN do? Or just leave it and accept the free publicity? Kristian __________________ Promote Dating \| Popular Post : Get Free Dating Traffic - 5 Tips

2005-07-08, 02:25 PM	#2
kristian Porn Movie Peddler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malta (France In Nov) Posts: 1,631	oh, the nutter's link : alternativealbany.com __________________ Promote Dating \| Popular Post : Get Free Dating Traffic - 5 Tips

2005-07-08, 02:32 PM	#3
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Holy fucking whore mother in heaven, that dude is completely cracked. Whines about 2257 and alt.com. BTW, he lives about an hour away from me in New Lebanon, NY. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-07-08, 03:58 PM	#8
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	Fucking newbie. This is a business. We're here to make money from people's twisted fantasies. Just because you don't agree with the theme of a FICTIONAL blog, doesn't mean that surfers don't. I'll guarantee you that for every simple little shit like yourself, there's 100 guys slamming their stiff pricks against their keyboards when they read Kristian's text. Another thing - surfers don't care about 2257. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2005-07-08, 10:44 PM	#11
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Honestly, you don't seem like a nut in any of your other posts...I just think you've lost perspective in this instance. This was a bad trade from your prospective, drop it, move on…as you’re going to get the rude awakening if you keep digging that most of the fetish blogs out there are written by adult webmasters. Is this a bad thing? No, not really, if someone goes to her site and joins alt.com they’ll hook up with other people of this same interest. Just like someone going to your blog and buying a book at Amazon on the topic will also learn more about the topic. Porn is a business, if each fetish that existed could only be promoted by people devoted to that fetish most of these fetishes would get no attention at all. Example, I promote all types of pages…is it wrong for me to write gay galleries? Transsexual galleries? BDSM sites? Even if I have no interest in them? Or do I promote them, allow people to be exposed to the fetish, allow them to search and give these fetishes a try…the person gets lead to their secret desire, I make a stipend from it, they go on and learn more. Hate to say it, but adult webmasters that are promoting all fetishes in some ways allow the fetish to enter the mainstream. Anyway, your opinions are set in stone at the moment, and I’ll graciously back out and let you have the last word if you need to reply to this thread. I think you’re overreacting and don’t have a full grasp of the adult industry of yet. In a year come back and revisit this thread and you may feel differently regarding it __________________ 69Blue.com ICQ #223487665

2005-07-08, 03:12 PM	#5
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Yes I am cracked Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites. First of all if you keep with the news you'd realize yahoo has removed all bdsm related chats and images because they are being sued for not removing a cached imaged from another site. You obviosuly don't understand the law at all and i suggest you read up on it. To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period. Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist. You site tries to promote the fact that its okay for a man looking to be a master to not be safe and sane. You are going against everything every other bdsm website says. You are trying to tell wouldbe masters and slaves that its okay to be treated as dogs. I don't care if your intention is merely to make a few dollars in the adult industry, you can still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You are not doing so, I am. So are most other commercial websites. Look at the sites I link to? Do you really think Mistress V is not making money? She makes a great deal of money and promotes anti-violence in the process. Same for katja Minx. In fact she makes probably more money then all of us combined. Or how about that of Buck Angel who is a real life transexual and one of the first female to male adult porn sites to be successful, yet he lives the lifestyle. Most people are not out there telling others its okay to be abusive, even those who are not real about it. Most of them still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You said screw it, you don't care who gets abuses who as long as you get your good old american dollar in the process. Hell why not just go make snuff films, theres far more money and you promote the same general idea, safety and life is not to be valued as long as someone gets there rocks off and someonbe else gets paid.

2005-07-08, 04:13 PM	#9
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	...You see where she's from? England...see 2257 is an American law... Actually you are only half correct as reality check network corp is based out of Brooklyn, NY, which makes it a violation ... People that are into BSDM will know which sites are legit and which aren't... Have you raed the comments of her posters? They want to learn from her or I wouldn't have a problem with it! ...but you're probably not doing yourself any good in a business sense right now... You have to realize my site is not intended for porn seekers. If it was I'd agree. However those who read my site are lifestylers and I get tons of comments from others agreeing with me. They are almost always happy when I point out a website is a fraud in it for the money. In fact it tends to bring me more sales on porn toys and such. On a further note., I never meant to offend anyone. It was not I who asked for a link trade. Typically when you ask another blog for a link trade, you know if they are getting the type of traffic you blog is aiming at. Being how my site is nothing but lifestylers of bdsm, not porn seekers, the request never should have been sent. Obviously if I am trading links with a website, the website in question is getting bdsm lifestyler traffic not people interested in porn. This was not a fault of my own I did not ask for this trade. I merely posted why we are not trading links and told the lifestylers who read my blog why they should not trust what she says. If I don't do that, someone is going to get seriously abused. However I must say, my compliments to the webmistress. You are extremely talented. I was totally fooled and had no idea you were a commercial blog. Had I realized this I would have denied the request from the start. Yes I have seen so much abuse in bdsm that I believed you were legit and in your own words "on a learning curve"

2005-07-08, 10:17 PM	#10
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	oh and something tink just pointed out to me: Why would anyone say she lives in the uk with a post like this: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20487 Does she not realize 2257 is only a US law?

2005-07-09, 02:32 AM	#13
Boogie I like to blog :) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,050	this thread is hilarious. __________________ I got a porn blog! Got a blog worth linking to? Contact me

2005-07-09, 03:18 AM	#14
Bill Selling porn allows me to stay in a constant state of Bliss - ain't that a trip! Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,914	I've known other people active in various dom-sub and bdsm communities and the lifestyle, and they take their mores, customs, and traditions very seriously. They are very vehement about it. There's a big difference between lifestyle concerns and business concerns. You folks shouldn't wrack this guy just because he is being true to the traditions of his community. Kristian should just be flattered that his fiction seemed so believeable.

2005-07-09, 09:55 AM	#15
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	Okay, I have pissed off a great deal of people and re-reading this thread I can completely see why. You are all right I am being anal about this. I think part of the problem is I am completely being misunderstood. First of all, I have no problem with adult websites being completely commercial based. Way to go if you are successful. I do realize a vast majority of these sites and blogs are done by those in the adult industry. The problem I had, was the extremes this bog went to, compaired to what most others are doing. Would it really have been so hard for this blogger to take the extra step and instead of saying "contact me on alt.com and my master will make arrangments for me meet and fuck you" to instead say "my master will review the profiles and speak with everyone who contacts me to ensure they are serious but as of yet no one has been refused". Same exact message. Only difference, those who do think the blog is real, see some genuine care taking place, not abuse. Or instead of saying "threw scraps of food on the floor for me to eat" said "threw scraps of food in my dog bowl". Or instead of comments like "my master said I am never to think, simpily obey" saying "when my master is arround, I am simpily to do as commanded without a second thought of hesitation". The difference in all these things is those who believe this site is real, do not say "oh so this is what bdsm is. Nice! I need a slave like that". All the same messages are there, only presented without the abuse factor. The people looking to wack their weenies while reading the site, are going to do so either way. Hell I'd even go for it if the blog has a little note on a disclaimer page or something similiar that said "this is my sexual fantasies, these ar not real". I am not trying to be an asshole about this. I truely think its sites like these that cause people to start thinking this is the way bdsm is done. In result you see cases like http://www.queenstribune.com/copblot...INDICTEDB.html where a guy take slaves (as in kidnappe d women) to a dungeon and tortures them and creates a website about it. Then you see laws like 2257 come around to stop this kind of action and in result take away freedom of speach and expression for the rest of the adult industry (in the US). So now I am considering tking down my analistic review of the site and putting up something that says "I stopped trading links with this site because I found out it is a fantasy blog and not real in any way". The difference being I don't bash the blog, just let my visitors know why the link is gone.

2005-07-09, 10:47 AM	#16
amber438 Whatever don't kill ya makes ya stronger... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New York Posts: 820	Changing the subject just a tad, I'd like to know something from ABitDifferent. Do alternative lifestyle people advocate having sex with minors? Because in your blog, you describe what puberty is and is not and the fact that you are arrtacted to "young girls" HERE Admittedly you did not give and age to which you are attracted. But the jist of the "article" was to inform people that a ped is not someone who likes 14-16 year old girls but much younger, pre-pubescent. But, nevertheless, I hope you know that it is against the law in the U. S.. But quite frankly, if this is the way you think, and you post it on an alternative lifestyle blog, well, it just does not belong there. Just my humble opinion. __________________ Red Hot Links Red Hot Galleries

2005-07-09, 11:23 AM	#17
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	First of all to everyone who read replied or glanced at this post, I am sorry. Sometimes, we just are out of line. I have posted a message for everyone about this on my blog, removed all old entries, and did my best to remedy the situation. alternativealbanycom/index.php?entry=entry050709-101037 Second to amber, Actually one of my readers messaged me about this matter. I will explain to you precicely what I explained to them. If you goto the really popular blog getting 40+ comments a day, you see it tends to be because they talk about contreversal subjects. Not everything I say on my blog is real, just like the rest of you. Sometimes I say things just to invote the reaction of the people who read my blog. If you read the entry, you also must have noticed its also one of m y most commented on entries. What I claim on my blog and what I do in real life is often times very different. As far as any legal issues, text on the screen has a very different set of laws then any other type of media on the internet. Its laws are very loose on that. Just like in america one can publish books about sex with minors, the same is true on the internet. Don't read to deep into my blog, I never said I wasn't a webmaster. I am just a webmaster with a kink.

2005-07-09, 12:09 PM	#19
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	Well, I said I wouldn't comment on the Pedophile thing until it was mentioned on the boards...as it is now...I will talk about it That article you wrote, "Pedophilia or age play" is basically child molester 101 type writing. I used to be an IRCop and I was an operator on over 200 chat channels…half the time I spent on IRC was k-lining and banning sexual deviants who would troll chatrooms looking for underaged chatters. You say that children shouldn’t be on IRC, well I would see people like you going into family_chat channels, into teens_only channels, trivia channels, and would try to pickup obviously under aged chatters. People like you make IRC dangerous for teens and children. This line from your blog, “As to how young I will go, I won't say but if you are a minor by law, contact me and I'll chat ya up ” Is personally revolting and I have no doubt that you’re most sincere when you said this. Now you’re trying to say that this isn’t how you really felt, blah blah blah, that this is…Fantasy perhaps? You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. You’ve gone on ranting about how slavewifeblog.com isn’t real, etc, and now you’re saying your own blog isn’t real? Hopefully you’ll seek some professional help for your pedophilia problem before the authorities or better yet an angry father, catches up with you. As for adult webmaster and the adult community…I honestly couldn’t see many people jumping at the chance to trade links with you, associate their pages with yours, etc. UW will come along in a minute and give the rough cut of what I just said, hopefully it will sound something like, "You fucking cocksucking pervert castrate yourself already." __________________ 69Blue.com ICQ #223487665

2005-07-09, 11:27 AM	#20
kristian Porn Movie Peddler Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Malta (France In Nov) Posts: 1,631	ABitDifferent Condones Incest, Rape, Child-Molestation, and Underage Sex I had hoped to refrain from posting my final comments on this disappointing issue for at least a few days. However, amber438, in her astute appraisal of alternativealbany.com, has uncovered the truth about this person. BACKGROUND I am quite an experienced seo, an adult industry webmaster of many years, a blog newbie, and a screenwriter. I setup a blog and began the process of investigating link exchanges based on keywords on the first 3 pages of google. alternativealbany.com appeared on my list. I checked it out, not thoroughly enough, and wrote a polite letter asking for a link trade. So my troubles began. You see, the owner, ABitDifferent assumed what I was writing in my blog was real. Me, being a seasoned adult webmaster, did not pic up on this. I am so used to dealing with other adult webmasters, it didn't occur to me that this was a surfer, who was genuinely sucked into my marketing efforts. MY DISCOVERY After numerous insulting emails and comments (which i have not posted on my blog), and the fiasco here on greenguy and jim, I decided to take a closer look at his site. He was clearly not a pleasant person and I wanted to know just who I had stupidly traded my links. It turns out that his peculiar behavior here is mirrored in his site. Here is where this person advocated child-molestation (no pics, just text): Where ABitDifferent Says It's OK To Fuck Children Here is where ABitDifferent writes about incest, child rape, and underage sex : Link To ABitDifferents Site About Incest, Rape, Child Sex I include the links here by way of telling everyone what I now know about this person. There are no pics and whether or not this makes it ok for me to even post them is doubtful, but I have do so to expose this person. I have contacted numerous authorites, including his host. The reason I have delayed since yesterday posting this info - as UW, Jim, and Mr Blue Know - is because I wanted the authorities to see the content before he had time to remove it. MY LESSON I've been doing trades and webmaster work for so long that I am a little jaded. This is the same reason I have not argued with this person here (after numerous drama threads over the years, you just get jaded). My lesson is to wake up, stop working automatically, and be careful who I trade links with in the future. This man is clearly very strange in more ways than I care mention. I am, of course, speaking from being a tad put-out by him, but I am nonetheless speaking the truth. See the links yourself, see the way he re-acted to my adult blog, his posts here, and you will naturally see my point. I will comment no further on this subject, here or elsewhere. I made a mistake associating myself with this person, I have exposed him and informed 7 different authorities, so I will now walk away and return to biz as usual. Have a nice day peopel and I am sorry for sullying the board with such a sordid fiasco. Kristian __________________ Promote Dating \| Popular Post : Get Free Dating Traffic - 5 Tips

2005-07-09, 12:31 PM	#23
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	kristian, Do you understand I am not tink? I have never sent any emails sense I emailed you pointing you to my article. Its as simple as that. You can believe what you will about the subject, it really matters not to me. I am sorry for what I said on the forums as I posted already. I have been out of line sense the start. Perhaps you missed that, perhaps not. Clearly I have no problem with you reporting me if you feel something needed repotring. Thats makes you a good person. I have no doubts legal officials will see exactly what you fail to see. For starters, the story you posted a link to was provided by a content provider clearly stated at the bottom of the page. Did you no there are adult story content providers? Or the fact stories here in america are totally legal reguardless of the topic? Then with the entry you are referring to, look at how its written. I never promote anyone do anything. I merely challenge a law. Speaking of laws did you know they are considering lowing the age of consent there to 15? Hey what do you know exactly the type of stuff I challenge about american laws in that entry. I am very careful in my choice of words when I right entries to avoid legal hassles. You don't seem to understand what you write is a whole lot different then pictures in the eyes of the law. I agree its a topic that been beaten to death. Let us end it.

2005-07-09, 11:47 PM	#24
guitar riff Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: In a van Down by the river. Posts: 216	A bit different are you mad because she actually writes realy well? Im not into BDSM but thats some awesome reading and if you dont want to trade with it so be it move on . You aren't the Internet police so don't try and be. As the ol saying goes clean off your own front porch before you try to clean off someone elses. __________________ Join The Rage!!!

2005-07-13, 10:50 AM	#25
ABitDifferent Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know? Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 11	SLANDER - A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel. Libel - a published or broadcast false and defamatory statement which damages the reputation of an individual. The point? Statements such as "...in view of impending investigations..." fall under this catagory and are thus illegal to make. April/kristian get the drift? As I said in my last post, This topic has been beat to death... let us end it HERE!