Fucking NUTTER Thinks My Site Is Real!! (ideas??)

[kristian]

Okay, so I run slavewifeblog.com, among others. Obviously I go to lengths to make it seem real, but a site I was linking to actually believes it, has removed their links, and is now slamming my site with an article written on his! WTF!!!! LMFAS

It takes all kinds!!

Should I do anything? Anything I CAN do? Or just leave it and accept the free publicity?

Kristian

[kristian]

oh, the nutter's link : alternativealbany.com

[Useless]

Holy fucking whore mother in heaven, that dude is completely cracked. Whines about 2257 and alt.com.

BTW, he lives about an hour away from me in New Lebanon, NY.

[kristian]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

BTW, he lives about an hour away from me in New Lebanon, NY.

LOL

What will $1K get me??

j/k!!!

[ABitDifferent]

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites. First of all if you keep with the news you'd realize yahoo has removed all bdsm related chats and images because they are being sued for not removing a cached imaged from another site. You obviosuly don't understand the law at all and i suggest you read up on it. To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You site tries to promote the fact that its okay for a man looking to be a master to not be safe and sane. You are going against everything every other bdsm website says. You are trying to tell wouldbe masters and slaves that its okay to be treated as dogs. I don't care if your intention is merely to make a few dollars in the adult industry, you can still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You are not doing so, I am. So are most other commercial websites.

Look at the sites I link to? Do you really think Mistress V is not making money? She makes a great deal of money and promotes anti-violence in the process. Same for katja Minx. In fact she makes probably more money then all of us combined. Or how about that of Buck Angel who is a real life transexual and one of the first female to male adult porn sites to be successful, yet he lives the lifestyle.

Most people are not out there telling others its okay to be abusive, even those who are not real about it. Most of them still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You said screw it, you don't care who gets abuses who as long as you get your good old american dollar in the process. Hell why not just go make snuff films, theres far more money and you promote the same general idea, safety and life is not to be valued as long as someone gets there rocks off and someonbe else gets paid.

[kristian]

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites. First of all if you keep with the news you'd realize yahoo has removed all bdsm related chats and images because they are being sued for not removing a cached imaged from another site. You obviosuly don't understand the law at all and i suggest you read up on it. To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You site tries to promote the fact that its okay for a man looking to be a master to not be safe and sane. You are going against everything every other bdsm website says. You are trying to tell wouldbe masters and slaves that its okay to be treated as dogs. I don't care if your intention is merely to make a few dollars in the adult industry, you can still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You are not doing so, I am. So are most other commercial websites.

Look at the sites I link to? Do you really think Mistress V is not making money? She makes a great deal of money and promotes anti-violence in the process. Same for katja Minx. In fact she makes probably more money then all of us combined. Or how about that of Buck Angel who is a real life transexual and one of the first female to male adult porn sites to be successful, yet he lives the lifestyle.

Most people are not out there telling others its okay to be abusive, even those who are not real about it. Most of them still promote safe, sane, and consentual. You said screw it, you don't care who gets abuses who as long as you get your good old american dollar in the process. Hell why not just go make snuff films, theres far more money and you promote the same general idea, safety and life is not to be valued as long as someone gets there rocks off and someonbe else gets paid.

I would usually make an intelligent reply to any negative remarks made against me. In truth, I honestly believe you are a few cans short of a six pack, so I will keep this short and light-lighted.

You're this offended now? You ain't seen nothing yet.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

Yes I am cracked

Some of you may no me already from cozycampus r fhgstore forums, others I am new to however I am not new bdsm or bdsm websites.

Actually I post at CC and do know your posts and you never seemed cracked but there's always a first time for everything

To post content provided by a site that is 2257 compliant does not make your site complaint it makes you site a secondary producer. As as secondary producer you also need the documents. You are breaking the law. Period.

I'll be the first to correct you here...she's not breaking the law at all. You see where she's from? England...see 2257 is an American law, not a world law, so you're completely WRONG and out of line when you suggest she's breaking the law.

Second what your site is doing, whether its for personal or commercial purposes is promoting abuse to those who are serious about bdsm. Do you not realize people actually live his lifestyle? You tink its all models and horny guys? You don't use alt.com or collarme.com do you? TONS of people are serious about it. Master/slave relationships exist.

You'll find that 99% of most adult blogs are more fantasy mixed with a nice dose of advertising. People that are into BSDM will know which sites are legit and which aren't...I think you're naive to the fact that most of adult blogging is mere fantasy than anything based in reality.

As for making a profit from alt.com, etc, and selling other products...welcome to adult webmastering 101.

One thing I would like to add...you don't have to link to her site and you can write your blog articles about her site, but you're probably not doing yourself any good in a business sense right now. Adult webmasters, more than any other group, rely heavily on a persons reputation.

Honestly the way I would have handled it...if you're a master and really believe in this stuff, I would have just dropped links with her, but I wouldn't have posted an article about her...just a bad business move.

[Useless]

Fucking newbie.

This is a business. We're here to make money from people's twisted fantasies. Just because you don't agree with the theme of a FICTIONAL blog, doesn't mean that surfers don't. I'll guarantee you that for every simple little shit like yourself, there's 100 guys slamming their stiff pricks against their keyboards when they read Kristian's text.

Another thing - surfers don't care about 2257.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Fucking newbie.

This is a business. We're here to make money from people's twisted fantasies. Just because you don't agree with the theme of a FICTIONAL blog, doesn't mean that surfers don't. I'll guarantee you that for every simple little shit like yourself, there's 100 guys slamming their stiff pricks against their keyboards when they read Kristian's text.

Another thing - surfers don't care about 2257.

lol, amazing how UW captured the spirit of my post in one short paragraph...but basically...yeah what UW said.

[ABitDifferent]

...You see where she's from? England...see 2257 is an American law...

Actually you are only half correct as reality check network corp is based out of Brooklyn, NY, which makes it a violation

... People that are into BSDM will know which sites are legit and which aren't...

Have you raed the comments of her posters? They want to learn from her or I wouldn't have a problem with it!

...but you're probably not doing yourself any good in a business sense right now...

You have to realize my site is not intended for porn seekers. If it was I'd agree. However those who read my site are lifestylers and I get tons of comments from others agreeing with me. They are almost always happy when I point out a website is a fraud in it for the money. In fact it tends to bring me more sales on porn toys and such.

On a further note., I never meant to offend anyone. It was not I who asked for a link trade. Typically when you ask another blog for a link trade, you know if they are getting the type of traffic you blog is aiming at. Being how my site is nothing but lifestylers of bdsm, not porn seekers, the request never should have been sent.

Obviously if I am trading links with a website, the website in question is getting bdsm lifestyler traffic not people interested in porn. This was not a fault of my own I did not ask for this trade. I merely posted why we are not trading links and told the lifestylers who read my blog why they should not trust what she says. If I don't do that, someone is going to get seriously abused.

However I must say, my compliments to the webmistress. You are extremely talented. I was totally fooled and had no idea you were a commercial blog. Had I realized this I would have denied the request from the start. Yes I have seen so much abuse in bdsm that I believed you were legit and in your own words "on a learning curve"

[Mr. Blue]

Being in England she's not required to maintain the documents as a secondary producer. Should could switch registrar/hosting and basically fob off 2257 completely. However, she has a compliancy notice, I'm sure the DOJ is going to fly to England to check her (you see where this is going? lol).

The fact of the matter is that there's tons of blogs out there at the moment. I have one small blog and trust me it has nothing to do with reality. As a porn webmaster you're selling the unreal to people that want to buy the unreal and participate in this mutual fantasy.

I stick by what I originally said though...you're not doing yourself any favor by going after her on your blog. The people that visit her blog most likely just enjoy reading it, getting randy, jacking off, and moving on.

All I can say is that 99% of blogs are fantasy...you might be the 1% that isn't...she most likely signed up for a trade with you because she thought you were just another regular webmaster turning some coin on a fetish like 99% of the other blogs. If you go to her trading partners and start ranting, you'll soon find that most of them will have the knee jerk reaction "This guy can't be for real"

Even if this isn't a business for you, you want traffic to your blog, want to get that blog well-known, and the best way to do that is to work with other adult webmasters. So, chill, maybe consider removing that blog entry, and just let the trade die without the extra commentary.

[kristian]

Believe it or not, I hold no ill-will towards ABitDifferent, providing this goes no further. It takes all kinds to make a world and if we all viewed the world with the same set of eyes, it would be a very boring place indeed. On a serious note, however, I would remind you (ABitDifferent) that I am a professional adult webmaster, a well-paid one at that, and therefore not the kind of person to antagonize. I suggest, as nice as I possibly can, that you chill and walk away. I could point a great many holes in all of this but I wont because, quite honestly, life is too short to argue.

In the spirit of fun and hopefully an ending to hostilities (not that any arose from my part), here is something for you to laugh at ABitDifferent.

A Link To SlaveWifeBlog (ok for everyone else to click, nothing dangerous)

No hard feelings, mate!

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by kristian

A Link To SlaveWifeBlog (ok for everyone else to click, nothing dangerous)

No hard feelings, mate!

bahahaha, oops, hehe.

btw, umm, do you sound like Mary Poppins? What? I'm just thinking MaryPoppinsSexBlog with .mp3 files would be an interesting...umm...okay nevermind...I don't want other nanny blogs contacting you all pissy like.

[kristian]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

bahahaha, oops, hehe.

btw, umm, do you sound like Mary Poppins? What? I'm just thinking MaryPoppinsSexBlog with .mp3 files would be an interesting...umm...okay nevermind...I don't want other nanny blogs contacting you all pissy like.

You . . . are . . . amazing! No word of a lie, I actually based the writing voice on Julie Andrews! LOL My daughter watches Princess Diaries 2 every day (with me, it was superman and star wars) and her vernacular is kinda stuck in my head so I just went with it.

[ABitDifferent]

The greatest part of it all, is how silly you look. Of coarse you are going to believe the vsitors of my blog are all me, but clearly I am not tink. I think she lives in Wi or something. Perhaps even the uk. I am honestly not sure. However, do you people honestly expect me to take down a posting about her blog when clearly she is just feeding me?

I don't honestly care if I lose all my traffic over it, you see for me its a lifestyle blog I use to make money, not a blog I use to make money exploiting a lifestyle. The difference is, true lifestylers are going to read my blog, find an honest lifestyle blog, and link it. I don't need all the popular blog trades. I have the real slave bloggers linking to me.

At this point, I have nothing left to say on this matter as you are clearly speaking for me on your own blog. By the way, thanks for the publicity I have recieved about 10 hits over a google search for "ABitDifferent". Well done!

To anyone who thinks I am the one out of line, you don't understand there is a difference between having an adult blog which is OBVIOUSLY fantasy, and telling others "yes its okay to be abusive". Clearly I don't really give a damn what others say about my site, nor the way I run things. My click ratio has not dropped one little bit over this.

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

The greatest part of it all, is how silly you look.

Umm, who looks silly coming to an adult webmaster forum and complaining about what 99% of us do? Selling sex, fantasy, whatever, it's what we do...I'm sure some submissives that read your blog is impressed by the size of your e-penis, the rest of us think you're a dink.

I have the real slave bloggers linking to me.

Cool, virtual slaves

By the way, thanks for the publicity I have recieved about 10 hits over a google search for "ABitDifferent". Well done!

A whole 10 hits...damn we made you an internet giant.

Bottomline you should research your trade, if you asked she would have told you she was just an adult webmaster. Whenever I start a trade I research them and rather trade with people I know or take the time to get to know. Either way, whinge about it all you want...the topic is stale and done with unless UW wants to add something.

[ABitDifferent]

Mr. Blue,

As you yourself said, you have read my posts in the past and i've never seemed cracked before now. So why do you suppose I have this sudden change? In this past post you say I should investigate my link trades as well. You are correct, and I do.

I read her blog through and through. No signs of fantasy were shown. Okay so I should have asked right? Only part of her emails are misleading making me not ask.

Quote from her email to me:
You have a fantastic resource; I'm looking forward to reading and learning more myself.

Why would an adult webmaster strictly in this for money refer to reading and learning about bdsm unless she was truely in the lifestyle? It wouldn't! I am lead here to believe she IS a slave looking to make money off her site. I have no problem with that, and so I posted comments helping guide her, thats when all this mess started cause she says I was cracked for doing so...

Another quote from her email to me:
I hope all this meets with your approval and would please ask again if we could have a listing under "Slave Blogs".

Who is we if she is not a married slave? Her and her website?

And another:
Your concerns about 2257 and much appreciated. However, no need to worry on my behalf. The original content, that of slave wife Janice, does not fall under 2257. The other images and sponsor-supplied and their 2257 notice can be found on each respective site.

Where does she say anything about "oh I don't really live in maine its just a fantasy blog"?

You see, typically if one is not tying to hide from link trades that they are strictly commercial, they would tell you these things instead of writing weird emails insinuating they are who the blog claims they are.

[ABitDifferent]

oh and something tink just pointed out to me: Why would anyone say she lives in the uk with a post like this: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20487 Does she not realize 2257 is only a US law?

[Mr. Blue]

Honestly, you don't seem like a nut in any of your other posts...I just think you've lost perspective in this instance. This was a bad trade from your prospective, drop it, move on…as you’re going to get the rude awakening if you keep digging that most of the fetish blogs out there are written by adult webmasters. Is this a bad thing? No, not really, if someone goes to her site and joins alt.com they’ll hook up with other people of this same interest. Just like someone going to your blog and buying a book at Amazon on the topic will also learn more about the topic.

Porn is a business, if each fetish that existed could only be promoted by people devoted to that fetish most of these fetishes would get no attention at all. Example, I promote all types of pages…is it wrong for me to write gay galleries? Transsexual galleries? BDSM sites? Even if I have no interest in them? Or do I promote them, allow people to be exposed to the fetish, allow them to search and give these fetishes a try…the person gets lead to their secret desire, I make a stipend from it, they go on and learn more.

Hate to say it, but adult webmasters that are promoting all fetishes in some ways allow the fetish to enter the mainstream.

Anyway, your opinions are set in stone at the moment, and I’ll graciously back out and let you have the last word if you need to reply to this thread. I think you’re overreacting and don’t have a full grasp of the adult industry of yet. In a year come back and revisit this thread and you may feel differently regarding it

[Useless]

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

oh and something tink just pointed out to me: Why would anyone say she lives in the uk with a post like this: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=20487 Does she not realize 2257 is only a US law?

Get off the 2257 thing. It's not getting you anywhere. It is only a U.S law, no matter what the dumb shits at that newbie board told you.

Here's what you fail to grasp- Kristian is a marketing professional. You are a freak. He got more traffic while showering today than you will get this month. He bases his decisions on what sells and what pleases the market, not on what you feel is honest and true in your small segment of the BDSM lifestyle. Meow

[Boogie]

this thread is hilarious.

[Bill]

I've known other people active in various dom-sub and bdsm communities and the lifestyle, and they take their mores, customs, and traditions very seriously.

They are very vehement about it.

There's a big difference between lifestyle concerns and business concerns.

You folks shouldn't wrack this guy just because he is being true to the traditions of his community.

Kristian should just be flattered that his fiction seemed so believeable.

[ABitDifferent]

Okay, I have pissed off a great deal of people and re-reading this thread I can completely see why. You are all right I am being anal about this. I think part of the problem is I am completely being misunderstood.

First of all, I have no problem with adult websites being completely commercial based. Way to go if you are successful. I do realize a vast majority of these sites and blogs are done by those in the adult industry.

The problem I had, was the extremes this bog went to, compaired to what most others are doing. Would it really have been so hard for this blogger to take the extra step and instead of saying "contact me on alt.com and my master will make arrangments for me meet and fuck you" to instead say "my master will review the profiles and speak with everyone who contacts me to ensure they are serious but as of yet no one has been refused". Same exact message. Only difference, those who do think the blog is real, see some genuine care taking place, not abuse.

Or instead of saying "threw scraps of food on the floor for me to eat" said "threw scraps of food in my dog bowl". Or instead of comments like "my master said I am never to think, simpily obey" saying "when my master is arround, I am simpily to do as commanded without a second thought of hesitation".

The difference in all these things is those who believe this site is real, do not say "oh so this is what bdsm is. Nice! I need a slave like that". All the same messages are there, only presented without the abuse factor. The people looking to wack their weenies while reading the site, are going to do so either way. Hell I'd even go for it if the blog has a little note on a disclaimer page or something similiar that said "this is my sexual fantasies, these ar not real".

I am not trying to be an asshole about this. I truely think its sites like these that cause people to start thinking this is the way bdsm is done. In result you see cases like http://www.queenstribune.com/copblot...INDICTEDB.html
where a guy take slaves (as in kidnappe d women) to a dungeon and tortures them and creates a website about it. Then you see laws like 2257 come around to stop this kind of action and in result take away freedom of speach and expression for the rest of the adult industry (in the US).

So now I am considering tking down my analistic review of the site and putting up something that says "I stopped trading links with this site because I found out it is a fantasy blog and not real in any way". The difference being I don't bash the blog, just let my visitors know why the link is gone.

[amber438]

Changing the subject just a tad, I'd like to know something from ABitDifferent.

Do alternative lifestyle people advocate having sex with minors?
Because in your blog, you describe what puberty is and is not and the fact that you are arrtacted to "young girls" HERE
Admittedly you did not give and age to which you are attracted. But the jist of the "article" was to inform people that a ped is not someone who likes 14-16 year old girls but much younger, pre-pubescent. But, nevertheless, I hope you know that it is against the law in the U. S..
But quite frankly, if this is the way you think, and you post it on an alternative lifestyle blog, well, it just does not belong there.
Just my humble opinion.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by ABitDifferent

So now I am considering tking down my analistic review of the site and putting up something that says "I stopped trading links with this site because I found out it is a fantasy blog and not real in any way". The difference being I don't bash the blog, just let my visitors know why the link is gone.

That's pretty fucking anal in itself. Should I start leaving post-it notes on my sites for all of the links that I pull? Sounds to me that you need to step out of your dungeon every once in a while and get a breath of fresh air.

And now please respond to Amber's query.