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Old 2005-08-01, 04:58 PM   #1
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How many reccuring members?

Boobdollars is for sale. They state that they have around 1,600 recurring members. They seem pretty proud of it. That doesn't seem like that many to me. How many members do medium size paysites usally have? What do you think.
Here's the article http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=9751
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Old 2005-08-01, 05:25 PM   #2
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1600 members is a LOT of members.

$24.95 per member less affiliate payout and your looking at about $20,000-25,000 a month in recurring revenue. (Plus new signups that do not stay but still a few dollars in your pocket)

He is asking too much anyway.
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Old 2005-08-01, 08:09 PM   #3
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With a 50/50 split that's 1/2 of $40,000 a month. Take out another $10k in over head including processing fees, hosting, advertising and other things and you're left with about $10k a month.

That's not bad at all and when you add in new sales and upsells I'm sure they're making good money but they're asking for a lot.
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Old 2005-08-01, 09:03 PM   #4
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How much is he asking?
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Old 2005-08-01, 10:38 PM   #5
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So my dream of having 3000 members by next summer is not going to happen is what you're saying. Damn.
This site is suppose to have 15K http://www.ftvgirls.com/ I wonder how they did that?
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Old 2005-08-02, 12:46 AM   #6
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So my dream of having 3000 members by next summer is not going to happen is what you're saying. Damn.
Who said that? Why can't you have 3,000 members by next summer?
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Who said that? Why can't you have 3,000 members by next summer?
The pessimistic devil that sits on my shoulder that says "if 1600 is considered alot you can't do better than that."
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Old 2005-08-02, 10:30 AM   #8
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Its a good number. Definitely not high, but you should be able to turn a good profit off that many after expenses.

Most programs I have been involved with break even at around 200 recurring members.
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Old 2005-08-02, 11:51 AM   #9
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How much is he asking?
i am interested too.
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Old 2005-08-02, 11:56 AM   #10
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It all depends on overhead, if you can keep it low then you can make a very good living off 1600 recurring members. I doubt that 100% of their sales are affiliate driven, so that would make it much more profitable.

Does anyone know who much they are asking?
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The pessimistic devil that sits on my shoulder that says "if 1600 is considered alot you can't do better than that."
If you want to be successful you need to kick that little devil's ass.
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FTV Girls has a TON of members, more than the average web site.

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I was not going on the 50/50 rule. I was basing my numbers on the fact I'm sure he gets a percentage if inhouse sales. And you're right. Add upsells, the inflow of many 5 day trials that cancel and other things inside and 1600 members can bring in a lot.

2000 members is a lot to get to but there is no reason you cannot do it. Lots of promotion and a good members area keeping members for 3+ months each is all you need.

Boobdollars and all sites and all content (there's a lot) is $750K+
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Old 2005-08-02, 04:43 PM   #13
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moby speaks wisdom.

if i had a paysite project i'd be glad to get 2k members thxu
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Old 2005-08-02, 06:39 PM   #14
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Now if I could get my wife and daughter to say that .....
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Old 2005-08-02, 08:50 PM   #15
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If you want to be successful you need to kick that little devil's ass.
You are correct Sir.
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Old 2005-08-05, 01:04 PM   #16
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Its a good number. Definitely not high, but you should be able to turn a good profit off that many after expenses.

Most programs I have been involved with break even at around 200 recurring members.

200 recurring members... That is not quite enough!
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Old 2005-08-09, 05:23 AM   #17
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1600 members is not much, it's nice but not much
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200 recurring members... That is not quite enough!
Really?

200 members X $24.95 = $4990.00 minus processing fees and affiliate payouts and you're still clearing $2000 EASY (plus new trial sales that cancel) and that is not enough for hosting and content updates?

I think it is unless it is an exclusive content site with videos needed.
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Among paying hosting and making updates I want to put something to my pocket.
$1k is not enough :-)
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Among paying hosting and making updates I want to put something to my pocket.
$1k is not enough :-)
Remember the statements was 200 to break even not turn a profit but not loose money. The break even point is a big mile stone in any project.
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I wonder if there are paysites that have way more than 2000 users?
Say 10K? Anyone knows somthing about that?
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Why couldn't a pay site have 10k? There was a teen video site that had no affiliate program and stating that he had 15k and based on the cost of his marketing I believe it.
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Why couldn't a pay site have 10k? There was a teen video site that had no affiliate program and stating that he had 15k and based on the cost of his marketing I believe it.
Yup I know the site. The guy was using ibill too back then, I hope he got that changed around.

I'm sure there are many sites with 1000's of members.
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Old 2005-08-13, 10:22 AM   #24
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well , did read somewhere that jenna jameson club has around 27k members ....

but yes , it's a monster ...
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Old 2005-08-14, 01:36 PM   #25
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i have over 400 active members on my avs site asianpornarchive.com

it wasnt hard to get it.. this avs is just half a year old..
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