2257 vs Canadian Privacy Law

tickler · 2005-11-15, 02:39 PM

It's in a mainstream newspaper again.
http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawac...0-77488565cff0

Some nice quotes:
"We're in a grey zone here in Canada," says Greg Jones, spokesman for LiveCamNetwork.com, a Montreal business that runs live, pay-per-view chats with scantily clad performers. Nobody in the U.S. wants to do business with you "if you can't provide IDs. We're breaking an American law if we don't send them, and if we comply, we're breaking Canadian privacy laws. So if Mr. Psycho wants to get (in touch with) his blond Asian dwarf, and love her to death literally, he'll end up getting her ID."

Sounds like grounds for a NAFTA case.

But David Fewer, staff counsel for the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic at the University of Ottawa and an online privacy advocate, called the situation an unfortunate "subspecies of a wider phenomenon where (the U.S. is) basically exporting domestic laws."

Hope you guys send Dubyah back home to Texas soon.

ps. I see the LA Times has added a Porn Industry section also.

Papa · 2005-11-21, 03:05 PM

http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...ive/z00542.htm
Speaking of Greg ....
Yep, that's the guy in the middle (lol.......)

Salut mon gars

RawAlex · 2005-11-21, 03:16 PM

Tickler, it is a major problem that exists right now. Violation of privacy laws in order to allow others to honor the laws of their country. It's a very difficult situation.

The reality is that Canadian (and European) porn producers will need to add terms and conditions to their model releases that will include permission to distribute the personal information, otherwise they will be restricted to selling the content only outside of the US (which is starting to look like a good business model).

I ran into a different situation soon, and one that has stopped me entirely from edit videos for US webmasters:

The US customs as of about August 1st has added major restrictions to packages and parcels going into the US. Basically, you must declare absolutely everything that is in the package itemized (no exceptions), and in the case of video tapes, you must list the running time of each video, and describe IN DETAIL the content of the video. Now, that is just paperwork bullshit, but the part that got me: I have to declare that the material on the tapes is not obscene.

Now, considering obscentity in the US is dependant on the community in which it is viewed, and I cannot control the path or methods that the post office, fedex, or UPS might take to transport the materials, there is no way that I can make that declaration. I could be in a situation of making a false declaration and causing obscene materials to be transported interstate.

I removed myself from that part of the industry. I will do work for Canadian and european webmasters, but I will not handle anythign that is subject to US customs declarations.

Alex

RawAlex · 2005-11-22, 10:43 AM

More on point, EU likely to rule that giving airline passenger information to the US might also be a violation of EU privacy laws:

http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...&w=RTR&coview=

If something of potential national security isn't strong enough to merit breaking the rules, then I cannot picture anything in porn being worth considering.

Alex

2005-11-15, 02:39 PM	#1
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	2257 vs Canadian Privacy Law It's in a mainstream newspaper again. http://www.canada.com/ottawa/ottawac...0-77488565cff0 Some nice quotes: "We're in a grey zone here in Canada," says Greg Jones, spokesman for LiveCamNetwork.com, a Montreal business that runs live, pay-per-view chats with scantily clad performers. Nobody in the U.S. wants to do business with you "if you can't provide IDs. We're breaking an American law if we don't send them, and if we comply, we're breaking Canadian privacy laws. So if Mr. Psycho wants to get (in touch with) his blond Asian dwarf, and love her to death literally, he'll end up getting her ID." Sounds like grounds for a NAFTA case. But David Fewer, staff counsel for the Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic at the University of Ottawa and an online privacy advocate, called the situation an unfortunate "subspecies of a wider phenomenon where (the U.S. is) basically exporting domestic laws." Hope you guys send Dubyah back home to Texas soon. ps. I see the LA Times has added a Porn Industry section also. __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2005-11-21, 03:05 PM	#2
Papa Kids are great, Appu. You can teach them to hate the things you hate and they practically raise themselves now-a-days, you know, with the internet and all Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 190	http://www.fubarwebmasters.com/curre...ive/z00542.htm Speaking of Greg .... Yep, that's the guy in the middle (lol.......) Salut mon gars

2005-11-21, 03:16 PM	#3
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Tickler, it is a major problem that exists right now. Violation of privacy laws in order to allow others to honor the laws of their country. It's a very difficult situation. The reality is that Canadian (and European) porn producers will need to add terms and conditions to their model releases that will include permission to distribute the personal information, otherwise they will be restricted to selling the content only outside of the US (which is starting to look like a good business model). I ran into a different situation soon, and one that has stopped me entirely from edit videos for US webmasters: The US customs as of about August 1st has added major restrictions to packages and parcels going into the US. Basically, you must declare absolutely everything that is in the package itemized (no exceptions), and in the case of video tapes, you must list the running time of each video, and describe IN DETAIL the content of the video. Now, that is just paperwork bullshit, but the part that got me: I have to declare that the material on the tapes is not obscene. Now, considering obscentity in the US is dependant on the community in which it is viewed, and I cannot control the path or methods that the post office, fedex, or UPS might take to transport the materials, there is no way that I can make that declaration. I could be in a situation of making a false declaration and causing obscene materials to be transported interstate. I removed myself from that part of the industry. I will do work for Canadian and european webmasters, but I will not handle anythign that is subject to US customs declarations. Alex

2005-11-22, 10:43 AM	#4
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	More on point, EU likely to rule that giving airline passenger information to the US might also be a violation of EU privacy laws: http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...&w=RTR&coview= If something of potential national security isn't strong enough to merit breaking the rules, then I cannot picture anything in porn being worth considering. Alex