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2005-11-30, 11:50 PM
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Eighteen 'til I Die
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Rant about NATs' Sponsors
Like a dog chases a bitch in heat, I chase host free sites. So I find a sponsor that say that they have hfs', so I run over and sign up. I then go look at what they have and to grab the link codes to discover that I can not use them because they have NATs encoded id's.
1. Why would a NATS' user not include NATS' encodes/unencoded option? 2. Why would a sponsor start a thread bitching about his dislike of his codes being encoded and months after NATS gives the option for unencoded he does have the option on his site.
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2005-12-01, 12:01 AM
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NATS = the natural enemy of the hard-working webmaster
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2005-12-01, 12:56 AM
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I'm assuming it's the http://somelink/NdaLeiKi03A type of link you're talking about. Why can't you use nats encoded free sites?
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2005-12-01, 07:08 AM
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2005-12-01, 07:11 AM
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Those encoded links are the stupidest things I've ever seen - I'd love to know just what the thought process behind having them is.
Chop - post the sponsor please, because I have a feeling that I don't know who they are  |
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2005-12-01, 07:58 AM
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2005-12-01, 08:18 AM
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That was their reason for making them encoded |
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2005-12-01, 09:31 AM
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Stick with ccbill sponsors and everyone will be happy :-D
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2005-12-01, 03:55 PM
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2005-12-01, 04:44 PM
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Sponsors should think very carefully before going to NATS... CCbill pays on time every week...
How many ppl using NATS actually use a cascade? Looking around - I've seen plenty that don't... I understand that it's whizz bang and looks good... I just wish NATS would become a payment aggregator too...
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2005-12-01, 06:15 PM
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2. I wouldn't promote a program that did this either -- we've got Paycom, CCBill, WTS, and Password by phone -- one way or another -- if you want to pay -- we will get the money. 3. I would love that too, but that is way beyond their realm of duties as a software maker.
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
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Paycom scrubs just as hard if not harder... They piss me off full stop to be truthful... no account merging means I've got piddling little amounts of money sitting in their bank a/c that I'll never see... And only one of them came very close to going tits up... something we as a group seem to have miraculously forgotten... Quote:
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2005-12-01, 06:36 PM
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The following are the sponsors that use NATS, have free sites, and do not offer the option to unencode the affiliate id: Adult Cam Dollars, Dee Cash, Mesm Erotic, OC Cash and Traffic Gigolos
Sometimes I email them advising them that the purpose of my sign up was to include their hfs on hfslinks.com and ask them to include NATS' encoded/unencoded switch. For the most part I never get a reply or get some stupid reply like "we are using NATs V 2.0. What is encoded?" Anyway, I am not bashing NATS. They offer the option to unencode. They probably offered it as a result of this thread - http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=16841 My question is why don't the above NAT users offer the option on their sites?
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2005-12-01, 06:42 PM
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
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Dee Cash FS are totally unlistable anyway...
30kb thumbs and 300kb full size images in the >= Aug sites... galleries open in new windows on all built < Aug... Which is a shame coz I do ok with them and the sites do look good 
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2005-12-01, 07:36 PM
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Wazza - I do see that Deecash is making their sites much better after they were told about that problem - I also for some reason have no problem with my codes going through - but I asked them for a list of free sites with the link codes incorporated and they send me a list every day - I think if you really like their stuff - which I definitely do - you should hit Nick up over there as they will bend over backwards to provide just about anything you want
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2005-12-01, 07:42 PM
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I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire...
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Thx Linkster
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2005-12-01, 07:57 PM
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I'm already talking with Nick on that exact subject, and he's getting ramped up to make some real changes
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2005-12-01, 10:20 PM
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2005-12-02, 01:42 AM
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Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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Shameless plus... I allow unencoded links in my proggy... and I cascade ccbill->paycom->200charge->dialer... but I don't have free hostes sites yet
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2005-12-02, 02:31 AM
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Rock stars ... is there anything they don't know?
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In the default templates, the ability to switch between encoded and unencoded links is there.
I'm curious why anyone would turn it off? Why not let the user's choose? We default it to on, but let a user unencode 'em if they like. |
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2005-12-02, 08:05 AM
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2005-12-02, 12:42 PM
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Eighteen 'til I Die
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I got a nice email from Frank of Adult Cam Dollars. This guy knows how to play. He has fixed his script to allow me to include his hfs'. Without being asked, he placed a link back to hfslinks. He has volunteered to send an advance list of his new hosted free sites. Thanks to Frank
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2005-12-02, 08:50 PM
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Thanks for pointing me to this thread. One e-mail to us and we add the options, features and changes..That keep our happy affiliates, happy. You never e-mailed us prior today, as stated in the e-mail you sent.. I am currently asking Nats to add the unencoded option for the hosted free sites & galleries. Let us know if there is anything else we can do for you. -Dee
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2005-12-02, 08:57 PM
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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Glad you like our sites and glad you did well with them. We realized this problem in our hosted free sites when a few linklist owners pointed it out. All our NEW hosted free sites follow the preferred guildelines you mentioned. We can mail them to you weekly too if you like. I am a firm believer in not changing hosted galleries, freesites that are already up. So the old hosted free sites that do not follow the guidelines (acceptable size and opening in same window) will simply be removed from the display list, but still remain up. Hope that helps. Let us know what else we can do for you. -Dee
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Internet! Is that thing still around?
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As per recommendations from LL owners, we are now doing the following: - Galleries links opening in same window - Every new hosted free site is a fresh template , custom signed by our in-house staff. - Sizes of thumbs & big pictures are optimized. Anyone of our affiliate managers will bendover backwards for you. If they don't, they do not deserve to be a part of any of my companies. -Dee
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