You know those "create your own gallery" scripts that are inside affiliate programs?

Greenguy · 2006-01-12, 08:49 AM

Everyone has seen them, where you pick the images & banners & colors & fonts & whatnot & the script spits out a gallery that you can download or the sponsor hosts.

Has anyone ever seen one that's actually worth using?

Even if it's offered & does make pages that look decent, do you still just make your own galleries?

I'm helping a friend out with a revamp of their admin & they have this option in there & IMHO, I've never seen one that was worth the money the program paid to have it installed

Cleo · 2006-01-12, 08:55 AM

I really never use them.

Useless · 2006-01-12, 08:57 AM

The ones I've seen in use are crap. Maybe it's the script. Maybe it's the setup. Seems like no matter what niche you choose, they tend to toss together pics from some random niche. The template choices often suck too, but that is probably the fault of the folks at the program. If I can't just copy and paste hosted promo links, I don't even bother.

Surfn · 2006-01-12, 08:58 AM

I get better and faster results building them myself. The couple I tried to use were taking me 5 times as long to do half as much...worthless to me

swedguy · 2006-01-12, 08:58 AM

Never used it.

RawAlex · 2006-01-12, 10:17 AM

I never felt the desire to use it. I would rather that the program take the same money and pay someone good to build galleries that convert, and stop worrying about making everything in 101 colors. A tuned up and on message gallery is way better than just a hodge podge of pieces tossed together without rhyme or reason.

Now, if the system randomly generated galleries, and over time presented the ones that sell the best or have the best click rations, now they would be on to something. But just building random shit and tossing it at the wall isn't going to make anywhere near as much money, IMHO.

Alex

HarryM · 2006-01-12, 12:58 PM

I have used them to make filler free sites real quick

http://www.bootystation.com/porn/latina-sex/
http://www.bootystation.com/porn/gangbang-orgy/
http://www.bootystation.com/porn/handjobs/

Lemmy · 2006-01-12, 01:14 PM

I have tried a few, but what they make doesn't look much different from the pre-made galleries so why bother.

cosmiccat · 2006-01-12, 01:19 PM

Don't like 'em!

PR_Tom · 2006-01-12, 01:27 PM

In general I think they're too limited on what you can edit. Then again I dont want to go through 50 step's, choosing 1 thing at a time, only to find out that I dont like it either..

It's tough to code one that could do it all. Workin on it, lol.

Greenguy · 2006-01-12, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HarryMuff

I have used them to make filler free sites real quick

http://www.bootystation.com/porn/latina-sex/
http://www.bootystation.com/porn/gangbang-orgy/
http://www.bootystation.com/porn/handjobs/

Your examples just reinforce why I don't like them

One idea might be for the programs to just offer the blank templates, so that builders can use them for ideas - but that might be a bad idea as well, since people would end up just using them for other projects - but then again, I'd bet that's going on already with the versions that let you download the galleries once you're created them

Mr. Blue · 2006-01-12, 02:29 PM

I absolutely hate them and they facilitate the hobbyist porn webmaster who'll spam tgps, etc with those ugly prefab galleries.

fetish1 · 2006-01-12, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

I absolutely hate them and they facilitate the hobbyist porn webmaster who'll spam tgps, etc with those ugly prefab galleries.

Aw Come on Mr Blue, don't hold back..tell us how you really feel

pvtspanky · 2006-01-12, 05:03 PM

I've never used them, not once.

Far-L · 2006-01-12, 05:04 PM

Ok - what would make it more desirable?

The ability to change the layout more easily?

The ability to change text, keywords, etc?

We don't have the problem with niche not matching though, btw...

Chop Smith · 2006-01-12, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Far-L

Ok - what would make it more desirable?

The ability to change the layout more easily?

The ability to change text, keywords, etc?

We don't have the problem with niche not matching though, btw...

Forget that damn tool. Build unique hfs' and fhg's and hang them out for list lists and tgps. You will get more listing that way. The tool is just too time consuming to grab links.

As far as affilates that build and submit, zip sets of 25 and let them use their own templates. That way your provide content will not become overused as quickly.

Surfn · 2006-01-12, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Ok - what would make it more desirable?

The ability to change the layout more easily?

The ability to change text, keywords, etc?

We don't have the problem with niche not matching though, btw...

There isn't anything you could do to make them desirable to me. Why? Because every webmaster that used it would be submitting the same templates to me. They wouldn't get listed.

I understand that DD likes them

Far-L · 2006-01-12, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chop Smith

Forget that damn tool. Build unique hfs' and fhg's and hang them out for list lists and tgps. You will get more listing that way. The tool is just too time consuming to grab links.

As far as affilates that build and submit, zip sets of 25 and let them use their own templates. That way your provide content will not become overused as quickly.

ok... definitely going to take your advice but our gallery builder adds the code automatically, keeps track of the ones built, and is super quick to use - I would be amazed if someone could do one by hand quicker.

Far-L · 2006-01-12, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfn

There isn't anything you could do to make them desirable to me. Why? Because every webmaster that used it would be submitting the same templates to me. They wouldn't get listed.

I understand that DD likes them

Interesting - but if there were enough template variety that would overcome that issue wouldn't it? Also we could limit each templates use perhaps... or allow webmasters to add their own tmp? What do you think?

Surfn · 2006-01-12, 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

Interesting - but if there were enough template variety that would overcome that issue wouldn't it? Also we could limit each templates use perhaps... or allow webmasters to add their own tmp? What do you think?

I would have to see a couple to answer that.

Far-L · 2006-01-12, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfn

I would have to see a couple to answer that.

We are just about to add the feature but I will be happy to let you know when it is ready.

We just hugely revised our webmaster area and it is a long and strong ways better than our old one. (Just ask

)

MrMaryLou · 2006-01-12, 06:53 PM

Far-L, the real problem lies with the abuse factor of pre-made galleries. There are so many who will take a couple of pre-made galleries and just make dead looking front ends and try to slip them by LL. There are lots of great tools but the abuse factor as turned so many LL and TGPs off to them

Keeping them to a limited amount may be the answer to this problem.

Chop Smith · 2006-01-12, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Far-L

ok... definitely going to take your advice but our gallery builder adds the code automatically, keeps track of the ones built, and is super quick to use - I would be amazed if someone could do one by hand quicker.

I might have misunderstood. This gallery builder that GG described, as below, is what I would find to be useless. Of course you are going to want a link export tool. Should you want or need to look at example let me know and I will pm you a login to look at what I am doing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Everyone has seen them, where you pick the images & banners & colors & fonts & whatnot & the script spits out a gallery that you can download or the sponsor hosts.

nekrom · 2006-01-12, 07:22 PM

Imo those 5step make your own gallery are utter crap. I'd either use a FHG which have some sort of structure to them (also crap) or 9 outa 10 occasions I make my own gallery.

What I'd like to see more programs offering is ziped content sets of 25-30pics of decent quality that are 500 on the long side as standard. And a ton of header image/s that I can incorporate into my galleries. Only a handfull of programs currently offer this.

-N

Greenguy · 2006-01-12, 11:13 PM

My point on all this is basically that I have never seen one that works that good or make decent pages. I may feel this way because I have a shitload of templates already that I can swap colors & things around in in the same amount of time that it takes one of these scripts to make me a piece of crap where I have to guess if the banner would look ok without looking at the template ahead of time

BTW, incase you haven't figutred it out yet, Far-L is the friend I'm helping out

View Poll Results: What's your opinion on "Create Your Own Gallery" scripts inside affiliate programs?
I use them all the time & they are wonderful.	1	1.96%
Some are decent & I use those on a regular basis, but for the most part, they stink.	10	19.61%
I've never seen one that makes decent galleries, so I just build my own or use their Hosted Galleries/Sites.	40	78.43%
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2006-01-12, 08:49 AM	#1
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	You know those "create your own gallery" scripts that are inside affiliate programs? Everyone has seen them, where you pick the images & banners & colors & fonts & whatnot & the script spits out a gallery that you can download or the sponsor hosts. Has anyone ever seen one that's actually worth using? Even if it's offered & does make pages that look decent, do you still just make your own galleries? I'm helping a friend out with a revamp of their admin & they have this option in there & IMHO, I've never seen one that was worth the money the program paid to have it installed __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2006-01-12, 08:55 AM	#2
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2006-01-12, 08:57 AM	#3
Useless Certified Nice Person Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dirty Undies, NY Posts: 11,268	The ones I've seen in use are crap. Maybe it's the script. Maybe it's the setup. Seems like no matter what niche you choose, they tend to toss together pics from some random niche. The template choices often suck too, but that is probably the fault of the folks at the program. If I can't just copy and paste hosted promo links, I don't even bother. __________________ Click here to purchase a bridge I'm selling.

2006-01-12, 08:58 AM	#4
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I get better and faster results building them myself. The couple I tried to use were taking me 5 times as long to do half as much...worthless to me __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-01-12, 08:58 AM	#5
swedguy Vagabond Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 2,374	Never used it.

2006-01-12, 10:17 AM	#6
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I never felt the desire to use it. I would rather that the program take the same money and pay someone good to build galleries that convert, and stop worrying about making everything in 101 colors. A tuned up and on message gallery is way better than just a hodge podge of pieces tossed together without rhyme or reason. Now, if the system randomly generated galleries, and over time presented the ones that sell the best or have the best click rations, now they would be on to something. But just building random shit and tossing it at the wall isn't going to make anywhere near as much money, IMHO. Alex

2006-01-12, 12:58 PM	#7
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	I have used them to make filler free sites real quick http://www.bootystation.com/porn/latina-sex/ http://www.bootystation.com/porn/gangbang-orgy/ http://www.bootystation.com/porn/handjobs/ __________________ Click here to make huge $$$

2006-01-12, 01:14 PM	#8
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I have tried a few, but what they make doesn't look much different from the pre-made galleries so why bother. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-01-12, 01:19 PM	#9
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2006-01-12, 01:27 PM	#10
PR_Tom Nobody gets into heaven without a glowstick Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 423	In general I think they're too limited on what you can edit. Then again I dont want to go through 50 step's, choosing 1 thing at a time, only to find out that I dont like it either.. It's tough to code one that could do it all. Workin on it, lol. __________________ PimpRoll

2006-01-12, 02:29 PM	#12
Mr. Blue Searching for Jimmy Hoffa Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 771	I absolutely hate them and they facilitate the hobbyist porn webmaster who'll spam tgps, etc with those ugly prefab galleries. __________________ 69Blue.com ICQ #223487665

2006-01-12, 05:03 PM	#14
pvtspanky Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 93	I've never used them, not once. __________________ Promote Classic Porn

2006-01-12, 05:04 PM	#15
Far-L Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 265	Ok - what would make it more desirable? The ability to change the layout more easily? The ability to change text, keywords, etc? We don't have the problem with niche not matching though, btw... __________________ www.homegrowncontent.com www.homegrowncash.com

2006-01-12, 06:53 PM	#22
MrMaryLou i fucking told i type to fucking fast wtf Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New York Posts: 11,247	Far-L, the real problem lies with the abuse factor of pre-made galleries. There are so many who will take a couple of pre-made galleries and just make dead looking front ends and try to slip them by LL. There are lots of great tools but the abuse factor as turned so many LL and TGPs off to them Keeping them to a limited amount may be the answer to this problem. __________________ <a href="http://www.greenguysboard.com/onthebench/">Join Me For On The Bench </a>

2006-01-12, 07:22 PM	#24
nekrom Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 263	Imo those 5step make your own gallery are utter crap. I'd either use a FHG which have some sort of structure to them (also crap) or 9 outa 10 occasions I make my own gallery. What I'd like to see more programs offering is ziped content sets of 25-30pics of decent quality that are 500 on the long side as standard. And a ton of header image/s that I can incorporate into my galleries. Only a handfull of programs currently offer this. -N __________________ The afp ownz all your base.

2006-01-12, 11:13 PM	#25
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	My point on all this is basically that I have never seen one that works that good or make decent pages. I may feel this way because I have a shitload of templates already that I can swap colors & things around in in the same amount of time that it takes one of these scripts to make me a piece of crap where I have to guess if the banner would look ok without looking at the template ahead of time BTW, incase you haven't figutred it out yet, Far-L is the friend I'm helping out __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network