State of Blogging

walrus · 2006-03-02, 12:21 PM

I know I've got a big ass rant inside just waiting to find the words but thought I'd go ahead and post this now while my thoughts are settling into some coherant thoughts (ok, so my thoughts never get coherant). I ran across this software the other day and I almost don't want to even post the link cause it might give some people idea's but, The Blog Solution, I guess others need to see what the hell I'm talking about.

Anyway, this kind of took the wind out of my sails. Hasn't anything been learned from past mistakes. Just what is needed, a program that can create 1000's of peices of shit in under 5 minutes. I've also ran across a autosubmitter for blog directories.

Anyway, I'm starting to ramble and get incoherant so, time to pause. But I'd really like to know others thoughts.

anasporn · 2006-03-02, 01:06 PM

I think part of the "problem" is that people jump in without realizing it's WORK to keep even just one blog up. Then you have those who truly believe in quantity over quality, and the surfers WILL get leery and jaded and a bit cynical...

but isn't that the story with everything in adult?

I think I'll just mind my 3 little blogs and keep doing what I do and the surfers will find me one way or another, if not through links/directories then through the SEs

Lemmy · 2006-03-02, 03:11 PM

There's auto software to create almost anything out there and auto software to submit it, so I guess it had to come to the blogging world sooner or later.

Boogie · 2006-03-02, 03:39 PM

this is the third or fourth autoblogging bs program I've seen.

they either dont work or the spam blogs get glossed over.

the cardinal rule about blogs is this;
anyone can create a bullshit spam blog that people will look at.

hell they can even link to it from previous sites they have and get it some PR and get the engines to notice some of it.

But, will they get 'real' hard link exchanges? Not if people are smart.

Will they build readership, like I have, or the walrus has? Will people comment on their blogs and read it daily? no.

Let them autocreate themselves into a ten million page hell, those of us who create real blogs with real content that people WANT to view... we'll profit in the end.

Fleshbot wouldnt be fleshbot if it was autocreated and they make anything these fuckwits are doing with autocreators look like childsplay... which of course it is.

anasporn · 2006-03-02, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Boogie

But, will they get 'real' hard link exchanges? Not if people are smart.

Aye, and there's the rub "...if people are smart..." I am glad to see a lot of directory owners starting to refuse to list splogs. It must get damn boring to see the same sponsor text spiel (usually only 1-2 sentences long, with a sentence fragment tacked on for good measure) and the same promo thumbs over and over...you know it's bad when *I* can look at a splog and know exactly which site tour page the 2 sentences that make up a post are from.

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Will they build readership, like I have, or the walrus has? Will people comment on their blogs and read it daily? no.

and they really don't give a rat's ass about having a loyal regular readership either...they just want chumps to pull out the CCs as they leave. Always going for the quick buck, and shooting themselves in the foot in the long run...

But hey, Walrus is so much better at doing a rant than I am...and buddy, don't let it take the wind out of your sails...you can always try to be politically correct again LOL Even if it doesn't cheer you up, it will make me laugh!

walrus · 2006-03-02, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anasporn

and shooting themselves in the foot in the long run...

I could give 2 shits about what they do to their foot, its that shit like this spatters onto my feet as well. I'd hate to see some of the more mainstream traffic sources dry up just because they get tired of shit coming out of the adult blog world.

With sponsors starting to provide hosted blogs, hosted blog feeds and other feeds, it's good for us, the directory owners and the aggregators but it also makes it pretty easy to develop good "looking" splogs that, on initial appearance, appear pretty legit.

It just pisses me the fuck off that we (a blogging community) are just beginning to realize that the fucking lessons learned in the early days of TGP's and freesites really do still apply and all the rules that seem so fucking silly are there for absolutely all the right reasons.

Oh and it's pissing me the fuck off having this freehost asswipe coming around spamming his bull-shit. It's idiots like him that make me even fucking think about this shit.

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Originally Posted by anasporn

But hey, Walrus is so much better at doing a rant than I am...and buddy, don't let it take the wind out of your sails...you can always try to be politically correct again LOL Even if it doesn't cheer you up, it will make me laugh!

LOL, but honestly, even if The Walrus didn't make a dime off The Walrus Blog he'd still be doing it. He needs that venue to release all the pent up frustrations from simply being a

genius in his day to day life.

anasporn · 2006-03-03, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus

I could give 2 shits about what they do to their foot, its that shit like this spatters onto my feet as well. I'd hate to see some of the more mainstream traffic sources dry up just because they get tired of shit coming out of the adult blog world.

Right, they use the sawed-off 12 gauge approach when they should be using the .50 cal sniper rifle approach LOL But as long as people make money off the quantity splog approach, it will still be around.

ronnie · 2006-03-03, 11:40 AM

To me, along the same lines, how many people have so taken advatage of blogs. When I first started my blogs I have the trackbacks and comments open, in concept they are great features to help your blog grow. Very saddly I had to turn everything off very quickly. I was getting spammed big time with big time bs trackbacks and and comments, and I know they were coming from programs similar to what Walrus posted. It pisses me off to no end how just a few people can ruin a good thing for the majority. I dont want to tell you what I would like to do to these people that spam trackbacks and comments.

I agree, I dont see how these people will get many good links, or good related links. Unless they have a huge network and I dont think many have the resources to do it right. They are just wrecking it for the ones that really blog...

ronnie

walrus · 2006-03-03, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie

I dont want to tell you what I would like to do to these people that spam trackbacks and comments.

ronnie

I've hacked in a word filter but never actually turned comments off. Besides some of the Walrus's best shit is actually in the comment section as responses to spammers. After I've deleted their links, of course.

walrus · 2006-03-03, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anasporn

Right, they use the sawed-off 12 gauge approach when they should be using the .50 cal sniper rifle approach LOL

Now if they'd just turn the gun around....

ronnie · 2006-03-03, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus

I've hacked in a word filter but never actually turned comments off. Besides some of the Walrus's best shit is actually in the comment section as responses to spammers. After I've deleted their links, of course.

I agree completely that comments and trackbacks for that matter, can really add to a blog. Probably the reason it pisses me off so much. If it was a few spams, I could handle that, but I was getting hundreds, it was insane. I know what they are doing, they grab the links and put it in their software and churn out crap after crap.

ronnie

walrus · 2006-03-03, 05:06 PM

The reason I had to hack in the word filter is one asshole must have had his spam machine on auto-pilot, I was getting 45 comments a minute. I've got probably a dozen words in the filter and it reduced my spam to something manageble.

ronnie · 2006-03-03, 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walrus

The reason I had to hack in the word filter is one asshole must have had his spam machine on auto-pilot, I was getting 45 comments a minute. I've got probably a dozen words in the filter and it reduced my spam to something manageble.

Thanks for the tip, I'll have to check out my blog, I think it has some guards for spam, or add-ons. I really hated to close off the comments, was starting to get some good ones. Even get e-mails from surfers, kinda cool, and more so when they believe the "story"..

ronnie

bunky2u · 2006-03-05, 12:15 AM

Not many of you know this, but before I started work on http://www.deletedbrain.com/ I was running a fake TGP called StrippedGalleries and to push traffic towards it I had nice little blog called bunky's beauties. It pushed some traffic to the TGP, but most of my sales were being generated by my blog!

That got me thinking of redoing StrippedGalleries into something different. I wanted to meld my TGP and the blog into one. It took awhile but I finally got there. I am slowly getting back into the habit of making my own "life" entries as I did on bunky's beauties. I have added that feed to DeletedBrain to give and return traffic between the two sites.

It is important to have more than just some pics followed by a paragraph of text with a few links... I cannot stress that enough.

One thing that I have never really had a problem with was spammers. Even with my old bunky's beauties blog Ihhad a few incidents wher some bot popped a bit of crap, but that was it. I consider myself damn fortunate. But I have also never had a "following" like other bloggers do... rarely does anybody ever post a comment on my blog... that bites ass.

Anyway, while I am back here, I want you guys to have a look at http://www.strippedgalleries.net/ and give me your honest opinion. Do you think it looks like a Splog? That's what I am wondering at this point... and maybe that is why I am not getting the comments that others do.

thanks

bunky

RawAlex · 2006-03-05, 01:29 AM

Splog software isn't really a very different idea from automated sites makes, automated submission tools, or just about any other "auto" thingie to spew pages. The difference in the blog world is that it destroys or somehow violates a sort of trust that exists between reader and blogger. Even on the most commercial of blog sites, there is some sort of "I know a person wrote this" feeling that makes the blog more or less real.

splogs and cross linked bullshit are just that, and while they will likely score well with SEs for a while, they are the reasons why, in the end, filters will be written and innocent people will get punished in Google's SERPs.

It truly sucks.

Alex

bunky2u · 2006-03-05, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Splog software isn't really a very different idea from automated sites makes, automated submission tools, or just about any other "auto" thingie to spew pages. The difference in the blog world is that it destroys or somehow violates a sort of trust that exists between reader and blogger. Even on the most commercial of blog sites, there is some sort of "I know a person wrote this" feeling that makes the blog more or less real.

splogs and cross linked bullshit are just that, and while they will likely score well with SEs for a while, they are the reasons why, in the end, filters will be written and innocent people will get punished in Google's SERPs.

It truly sucks.

Alex

so what you are saying is that no matter what we do, the SE's, (especially google), will screw the honest guys over.

RawAlex · 2006-03-05, 02:26 AM

Google has been doing it since the start.

In their quest to provide the best and most relevant pages, Google uses very complicated formulas to figure out who links to who, what is hot, what is not, etc. Basically, a shared voting system.

Now, in order to keep it all good, they use special formulas to try to figure out when someone has their finger on the scale, so to speak, by using unnatural linking methods or is otherwise spamming to get higher rankings. When this happens, they write a filter of some sort, and redo the SERPs (commonly refered to as an update).

The problem is that each of these filters not only catches out the bad guys, but often catches out honest sites or somewhat optimized sites because your linking pattern or layout or content or something twigged one of their filters. Think of it as being the innocent victim caught in the cross fire between googlebot and black hat SEO guys.

In the rush to squeeze out splogs and bullshit, I am sure that tons of honest and real blogs get blown off all the time.

It's life, google style.

Alex

bunky2u · 2006-03-05, 02:50 AM

ah but that's google. If a person were to work a good hardlink strategy and provide comments on other blogs, that in itself is the nature of blogging and it is "google-proofed" so to speak.

I think I need to work on providing better comments on other people blogs... need to set aside some time to do that.

bunky

ronnie · 2006-03-05, 10:02 AM

To me it's creating interest, giving surfers something to come back for. I am sure no expert or exceptional writer, far from it. But one of my more my popular blogs, the one that recieves the most comments and surfer e-mail is one that is about a fictional charactor. Written in first person with daily life stories, sexual related of course, and believable, or at least close I think.

I think blog surfers tend to be more readers rather that just porn surfers looking for a quick jerk. Or blogs filter out between the two. And we all know to keep surfers coming back we need to give them something new or something to think about. From tgp's posting tons of pictures to draw surfers back to blogs that provide interesting text, creating a story or mini stories, drawing the read/surfer in. Look at reality tv, they use big drama, making it near impossible for viewers not to come back, they HAVE to see what happens next.

Course this creates a problem, it takes time to come up with interesting charactors, interesting stories, creating the "draw them in", or making them want to come back. Least it is for me..

So many bloggers post similar to tgps, new free porn each day, I know I am guilty of that, but what kind of traffic does that attract? The same tgp type surfers that want the free porn. I believe a good blog filters out those people to get more of the type that is looking for more than just getting off. Then again, it's so much easier and faster to post a pic or a link to a fhg with a quick paragraph, I've done it many times.

Course this is just my two cents..

ronnie

ronnie · 2006-03-05, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunky2u

Not many of you know this, but before I started work on http://www.deletedbrain.com/ I was running a fake TGP called StrippedGalleries and to push traffic towards it I had nice little blog called bunky's beauties. It pushed some traffic to the TGP, but most of my sales were being generated by my blog!

That got me thinking of redoing StrippedGalleries into something different. I wanted to meld my TGP and the blog into one. It took awhile but I finally got there. I am slowly getting back into the habit of making my own "life" entries as I did on bunky's beauties. I have added that feed to DeletedBrain to give and return traffic between the two sites.

It is important to have more than just some pics followed by a paragraph of text with a few links... I cannot stress that enough.

One thing that I have never really had a problem with was spammers. Even with my old bunky's beauties blog Ihhad a few incidents wher some bot popped a bit of crap, but that was it. I consider myself damn fortunate. But I have also never had a "following" like other bloggers do... rarely does anybody ever post a comment on my blog... that bites ass.

Anyway, while I am back here, I want you guys to have a look at http://www.strippedgalleries.net/ and give me your honest opinion. Do you think it looks like a Splog? That's what I am wondering at this point... and maybe that is why I am not getting the comments that others do.

thanks

bunky

One thing I noticed on your blog, and this might just be me, but I found it hard to read and kind of something I did'nt want to read, did not seem good on the eyes, if that makes sense. I think because you have dark text on dark background and all the text is bold. Blogs are suppose to be read, so need to make them easy to read. Least thats my take..

ronnie

walrus · 2006-03-05, 11:08 AM

Bunky, to answer your question, no I wouldn't consider strippedgalleries a splog (but its close) but I also see it as pretty plain and similar to tons of other blogs out there.

RawAlex · 2006-03-05, 11:29 AM

splog at it's best is just a nonsense page packed full of links and unreadable text, generated mostly to trick bots into giving decent serps. 99% of them are automated bullshit pages built once and forgotten forever.

What most of use are building is what I would think of as a clog - commercial log. As I mentioned elsewhere, we are trying to gain readers and bookmarkers and therefore traffic to sponsors, and just like a link list or TGP, we provide access to content or galleries or whatever in return for people being so nice as to come and visit us. Our intentions are entirely commercial, and we attempt to make sales.

We do this by talking to people in a human voice of sorts (usually a fake character we have created) that is the one posting. We add a little humor, sometime some links that are not very relevant but are kinda hot, and we attempt to be somewhat entertaining and on point.

strippedgalleries.net is a little hard on the eyes, I agree with ronnie that black text on a dark greyish background doesn't encourage me to read, especially because the pictures and white surrounds are so bright. I personally would darken the background down just a little more and make the text lighter and more readable, which would likely encourage people to read it more. I might also be tempted to put the entire page into a 750 wide table to make it look a little tighter and more interesting, because on my big screen it just seems to run away from me.

As for spam, there are any number of "human test" tools out there that can help you keep out the worst of the spammers, comments are a useful thing to a point (until you become a spammer) but that is all good.

Alex

anasporn · 2006-03-05, 12:01 PM

"clog" oh I love THAT term, Alex!! ROFLMAO it is so appropriate in so many different ways.

One of the things I am noticing about the difference between adult and mainstream blogs is a lack of "community" in adult that mainstream bloggers have. The mainstream ones, especially the "for fun" blogs, tend to visit eachother, link to each other, comment and have actual conversations in the comments, and even have something called "blog carnivals" to help each other out. We in adult don't do hardly any of this...too busy I guess. It may be to our detriment.

Thoughts?

RawAlex · 2006-03-05, 12:26 PM

anasporn, the adult community as a rule is set up on the "trade hard links" or "join my top list" or other exchanges that are very direct and to an extent very unnatural. We are also all very competitive, and we don't often cross link one to another in any other method except those two link paths above (and the variation on top lists such as blind links, thumb redirects, etc). We very rarely talk with each other in public in natural terms, everything is hype to sell.

Many bloggers (including myself) are very hesitant to even allow comments. That is a very clear indication that we don't want to talk with people, just talk at them.

Non commercial community blogs get away with it because these people have no other goal than to make their hit counter spin and get nice comments from their friends. There is no profit motive to make people want to keep traffic to themselves, no fear of exposing their readers to other blogs. We fear each other getting the sale so we tend to not be very much into sharing.

With WP 2.0, I am starting to open comments on some of my sites to see what happens. I am doing more cross posting and "link to blog" stuff that seems to set up a comment cross linking which I think would help. I use my personal "what I am doing and how I feel blog" as a source for many of these links, as it is entirely natural for me to link to stuff I am working on.

I am not sure what to do beyond that without it becoming very unnatural.

Alex

bunky2u · 2006-03-05, 02:06 PM

Ok good points.

Funny how when a person can look at their own blog and it looks great and easy to read. I have seen plenty of blogs using a three column format and their text is so damn small it freeekin' hurts to read.

But I can now see what you are saying about the bold text and whatnot. If I take the bold off and make the text white instead of black, it should be more readable. If not then I will have to re work the colour scheme... which isn't a big deal.

This little toole is handy for generating colour schemes http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html

anyway thanks for the input... Off I go to tinker around with the css.

bunky

2006-03-02, 12:21 PM	#1
walrus Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,773	State of Blogging I know I've got a big ass rant inside just waiting to find the words but thought I'd go ahead and post this now while my thoughts are settling into some coherant thoughts (ok, so my thoughts never get coherant). I ran across this software the other day and I almost don't want to even post the link cause it might give some people idea's but, The Blog Solution, I guess others need to see what the hell I'm talking about. Anyway, this kind of took the wind out of my sails. Hasn't anything been learned from past mistakes. Just what is needed, a program that can create 1000's of peices of shit in under 5 minutes. I've also ran across a autosubmitter for blog directories. Anyway, I'm starting to ramble and get incoherant so, time to pause. But I'd really like to know others thoughts. __________________ Naked Girlfriend Porn TGP free partner account

2006-03-02, 01:06 PM	#2
anasporn If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 249	I think part of the "problem" is that people jump in without realizing it's WORK to keep even just one blog up. Then you have those who truly believe in quantity over quality, and the surfers WILL get leery and jaded and a bit cynical... but isn't that the story with everything in adult? I think I'll just mind my 3 little blogs and keep doing what I do and the surfers will find me one way or another, if not through links/directories then through the SEs __________________ "TGP2 Queen" and yes, still crazy! My TGP2 articles on right hand side

2006-03-02, 03:11 PM	#3
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	There's auto software to create almost anything out there and auto software to submit it, so I guess it had to come to the blogging world sooner or later. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-03-02, 03:39 PM	#4
Boogie I like to blog :) Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,050	this is the third or fourth autoblogging bs program I've seen. they either dont work or the spam blogs get glossed over. the cardinal rule about blogs is this; anyone can create a bullshit spam blog that people will look at. hell they can even link to it from previous sites they have and get it some PR and get the engines to notice some of it. But, will they get 'real' hard link exchanges? Not if people are smart. Will they build readership, like I have, or the walrus has? Will people comment on their blogs and read it daily? no. Let them autocreate themselves into a ten million page hell, those of us who create real blogs with real content that people WANT to view... we'll profit in the end. Fleshbot wouldnt be fleshbot if it was autocreated and they make anything these fuckwits are doing with autocreators look like childsplay... which of course it is. __________________ I got a porn blog! Got a blog worth linking to? Contact me

2006-03-03, 05:06 PM	#12
walrus Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,773	The reason I had to hack in the word filter is one asshole must have had his spam machine on auto-pilot, I was getting 45 comments a minute. I've got probably a dozen words in the filter and it reduced my spam to something manageble. __________________ Naked Girlfriend Porn TGP free partner account

2006-03-03, 11:40 AM	#8
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	To me, along the same lines, how many people have so taken advatage of blogs. When I first started my blogs I have the trackbacks and comments open, in concept they are great features to help your blog grow. Very saddly I had to turn everything off very quickly. I was getting spammed big time with big time bs trackbacks and and comments, and I know they were coming from programs similar to what Walrus posted. It pisses me off to no end how just a few people can ruin a good thing for the majority. I dont want to tell you what I would like to do to these people that spam trackbacks and comments. I agree, I dont see how these people will get many good links, or good related links. Unless they have a huge network and I dont think many have the resources to do it right. They are just wrecking it for the ones that really blog... ronnie

2006-03-05, 12:15 AM	#14
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Not many of you know this, but before I started work on http://www.deletedbrain.com/ I was running a fake TGP called StrippedGalleries and to push traffic towards it I had nice little blog called bunky's beauties. It pushed some traffic to the TGP, but most of my sales were being generated by my blog! That got me thinking of redoing StrippedGalleries into something different. I wanted to meld my TGP and the blog into one. It took awhile but I finally got there. I am slowly getting back into the habit of making my own "life" entries as I did on bunky's beauties. I have added that feed to DeletedBrain to give and return traffic between the two sites. It is important to have more than just some pics followed by a paragraph of text with a few links... I cannot stress that enough. One thing that I have never really had a problem with was spammers. Even with my old bunky's beauties blog Ihhad a few incidents wher some bot popped a bit of crap, but that was it. I consider myself damn fortunate. But I have also never had a "following" like other bloggers do... rarely does anybody ever post a comment on my blog... that bites ass. Anyway, while I am back here, I want you guys to have a look at http://www.strippedgalleries.net/ and give me your honest opinion. Do you think it looks like a Splog? That's what I am wondering at this point... and maybe that is why I am not getting the comments that others do. thanks bunky __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =) Last edited by bunky2u; 2006-03-05 at 12:18 AM..

2006-03-05, 01:29 AM	#15
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Splog software isn't really a very different idea from automated sites makes, automated submission tools, or just about any other "auto" thingie to spew pages. The difference in the blog world is that it destroys or somehow violates a sort of trust that exists between reader and blogger. Even on the most commercial of blog sites, there is some sort of "I know a person wrote this" feeling that makes the blog more or less real. splogs and cross linked bullshit are just that, and while they will likely score well with SEs for a while, they are the reasons why, in the end, filters will be written and innocent people will get punished in Google's SERPs. It truly sucks. Alex

2006-03-05, 02:26 AM	#17
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	Google has been doing it since the start. In their quest to provide the best and most relevant pages, Google uses very complicated formulas to figure out who links to who, what is hot, what is not, etc. Basically, a shared voting system. Now, in order to keep it all good, they use special formulas to try to figure out when someone has their finger on the scale, so to speak, by using unnatural linking methods or is otherwise spamming to get higher rankings. When this happens, they write a filter of some sort, and redo the SERPs (commonly refered to as an update). The problem is that each of these filters not only catches out the bad guys, but often catches out honest sites or somewhat optimized sites because your linking pattern or layout or content or something twigged one of their filters. Think of it as being the innocent victim caught in the cross fire between googlebot and black hat SEO guys. In the rush to squeeze out splogs and bullshit, I am sure that tons of honest and real blogs get blown off all the time. It's life, google style. Alex

2006-03-05, 02:50 AM	#18
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	ah but that's google. If a person were to work a good hardlink strategy and provide comments on other blogs, that in itself is the nature of blogging and it is "google-proofed" so to speak. I think I need to work on providing better comments on other people blogs... need to set aside some time to do that. bunky __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)

2006-03-05, 10:02 AM	#19
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	To me it's creating interest, giving surfers something to come back for. I am sure no expert or exceptional writer, far from it. But one of my more my popular blogs, the one that recieves the most comments and surfer e-mail is one that is about a fictional charactor. Written in first person with daily life stories, sexual related of course, and believable, or at least close I think. I think blog surfers tend to be more readers rather that just porn surfers looking for a quick jerk. Or blogs filter out between the two. And we all know to keep surfers coming back we need to give them something new or something to think about. From tgp's posting tons of pictures to draw surfers back to blogs that provide interesting text, creating a story or mini stories, drawing the read/surfer in. Look at reality tv, they use big drama, making it near impossible for viewers not to come back, they HAVE to see what happens next. Course this creates a problem, it takes time to come up with interesting charactors, interesting stories, creating the "draw them in", or making them want to come back. Least it is for me.. So many bloggers post similar to tgps, new free porn each day, I know I am guilty of that, but what kind of traffic does that attract? The same tgp type surfers that want the free porn. I believe a good blog filters out those people to get more of the type that is looking for more than just getting off. Then again, it's so much easier and faster to post a pic or a link to a fhg with a quick paragraph, I've done it many times. Course this is just my two cents.. ronnie Last edited by ronnie; 2006-03-05 at 10:06 AM..

2006-03-05, 11:08 AM	#21
walrus Oh no, I'm sweating like Roger Ebert Join Date: May 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,773	Bunky, to answer your question, no I wouldn't consider strippedgalleries a splog (but its close) but I also see it as pretty plain and similar to tons of other blogs out there. __________________ Naked Girlfriend Porn TGP free partner account

2006-03-05, 11:29 AM	#22
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	splog at it's best is just a nonsense page packed full of links and unreadable text, generated mostly to trick bots into giving decent serps. 99% of them are automated bullshit pages built once and forgotten forever. What most of use are building is what I would think of as a clog - commercial log. As I mentioned elsewhere, we are trying to gain readers and bookmarkers and therefore traffic to sponsors, and just like a link list or TGP, we provide access to content or galleries or whatever in return for people being so nice as to come and visit us. Our intentions are entirely commercial, and we attempt to make sales. We do this by talking to people in a human voice of sorts (usually a fake character we have created) that is the one posting. We add a little humor, sometime some links that are not very relevant but are kinda hot, and we attempt to be somewhat entertaining and on point. strippedgalleries.net is a little hard on the eyes, I agree with ronnie that black text on a dark greyish background doesn't encourage me to read, especially because the pictures and white surrounds are so bright. I personally would darken the background down just a little more and make the text lighter and more readable, which would likely encourage people to read it more. I might also be tempted to put the entire page into a 750 wide table to make it look a little tighter and more interesting, because on my big screen it just seems to run away from me. As for spam, there are any number of "human test" tools out there that can help you keep out the worst of the spammers, comments are a useful thing to a point (until you become a spammer) but that is all good. Alex

2006-03-05, 12:01 PM	#23
anasporn If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 249	"clog" oh I love THAT term, Alex!! ROFLMAO it is so appropriate in so many different ways. One of the things I am noticing about the difference between adult and mainstream blogs is a lack of "community" in adult that mainstream bloggers have. The mainstream ones, especially the "for fun" blogs, tend to visit eachother, link to each other, comment and have actual conversations in the comments, and even have something called "blog carnivals" to help each other out. We in adult don't do hardly any of this...too busy I guess. It may be to our detriment. Thoughts? __________________ "TGP2 Queen" and yes, still crazy! My TGP2 articles on right hand side

2006-03-05, 12:26 PM	#24
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	anasporn, the adult community as a rule is set up on the "trade hard links" or "join my top list" or other exchanges that are very direct and to an extent very unnatural. We are also all very competitive, and we don't often cross link one to another in any other method except those two link paths above (and the variation on top lists such as blind links, thumb redirects, etc). We very rarely talk with each other in public in natural terms, everything is hype to sell. Many bloggers (including myself) are very hesitant to even allow comments. That is a very clear indication that we don't want to talk with people, just talk at them. Non commercial community blogs get away with it because these people have no other goal than to make their hit counter spin and get nice comments from their friends. There is no profit motive to make people want to keep traffic to themselves, no fear of exposing their readers to other blogs. We fear each other getting the sale so we tend to not be very much into sharing. With WP 2.0, I am starting to open comments on some of my sites to see what happens. I am doing more cross posting and "link to blog" stuff that seems to set up a comment cross linking which I think would help. I use my personal "what I am doing and how I feel blog" as a source for many of these links, as it is entirely natural for me to link to stuff I am working on. I am not sure what to do beyond that without it becoming very unnatural. Alex

2006-03-05, 02:06 PM	#25
bunky2u Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Alberta Canada Posts: 183	Ok good points. Funny how when a person can look at their own blog and it looks great and easy to read. I have seen plenty of blogs using a three column format and their text is so damn small it freeekin' hurts to read. But I can now see what you are saying about the bold text and whatnot. If I take the bold off and make the text white instead of black, it should be more readable. If not then I will have to re work the colour scheme... which isn't a big deal. This little toole is handy for generating colour schemes http://wellstyled.com/tools/colorscheme2/index-en.html anyway thanks for the input... Off I go to tinker around with the css. bunky __________________ XXX Link Dump submit away! =)