Linking to another site from a freesite

tigermom · 2006-04-30, 11:12 AM

Would this be considered ok -

1. Selling a link spot on my freesites to people. The outgoing link would be one of the three that I'm allowed (so, two links to my sponsor + one link to my link buyer).

2. Can I sell that spot per month, and change the link when I need do? if so, can I sell links on existing freesites, that have already been accepted and use one of the three outgoing links that I'm allowed to, for doing that?

I'm asking because I don't see any clear rule here. From what I've seen everywhere, it's ok to have a link back to "your hub" or your site, if it's within the 3 links count. I figure a link to another site (which will essentially be my sponsor too

as they will be paying for that link) should be ok, but I don't want to upset anyone. I want to do Freesites for the long run, so I figured I'd better ask first.

virgohippy · 2006-04-30, 02:37 PM

Interesting idea. I'm curious to know what the big players think about this as well.

Lemmy · 2006-04-30, 04:16 PM

I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as the site was legit and relevant. I would probably think it was a little odd if you sent the surfer to something totally unrelated to porn though.

alessandro · 2006-04-30, 05:09 PM

I find it interesting too and I'd not consider it bad as long as it fits in the "3 max links per page" rule.

Surfn · 2006-04-30, 06:51 PM

I see a potential problem that would cause me to hesitate listing that type of thing. If you rent the link, in effect, you lose control of the link, and who knows what will happen? Consoles, illegal stuff, 404, 302's etc... All reflecting on you the submitter. It seems like a good way for cheaters to linked without worrying about being banned because it isn't their submit.

Bottom line the potential for abuse is just too high to risk listing it unfortunately.

Shark · 2006-04-30, 07:05 PM

That ok if you got 3 max links per page and if those links are not sending surfers to illegal sites.

virgohippy · 2006-04-30, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Surfn

I see a potential problem that would cause me to hesitate listing that type of thing. If you rent the link, in effect, you lose control of the link, and who knows what will happen? Consoles, illegal stuff, 404, 302's etc... All reflecting on you the submitter. It seems like a good way for cheaters to linked without worrying about being banned because it isn't their submit.

So then it becomes a question of management.

Might be better off just having that one link point to a page/site of your own, and sell the traffic on that page/site.

But that's not what you were hoping to sell, was it?

Useless · 2006-04-30, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by virgohippy

So then it becomes a question of management.

Might be better off just having that one link point to a page/site of your own, and sell the traffic on that page/site.

But that's not what you were hoping to sell, was it?

Our hippy friend is on to something here. Simply selling a link with no guaranteed traffic delivery or exposure is nonsense. But setting up a simple system as Virgohippy just described would be best for you, as a submitter, and for the person purchasing traffic. I personally wouldn't ever purchase a link. Fuck links - people want traffic. Build a simple page, start adding a permanent link to that page from every free site you build and sell actual clicks. Use phpadsnew or some other banner delivery/control system. You'd never have to worry about getting your sites deleted for making changes after listing.

MrYum · 2006-04-30, 09:48 PM

That's a tough call. On one hand, it's just another link...whatever it goes to isn't actually on your site. It very much does become another sponsor link.

On the other hand, at least when that link goes to a sponsor site...there is at least some modicum of control. Sponsors get called out and blasted when they do something incredibly stupid. Having that link go to Joe Schmoes page...that Joe can do whatever his lilttle mind dreams up...that could get ugly.

Then again, I've seen link sites closed down and replaced with some pretty nasty things...I'm sure there are recips out there to some of those.

See, told ya it's a tough call

Frankly, when you get to the short strokes...I don't think the management and hassle would be worth it. To keep your own butt protected, you'd almost have to monitor those links yourself.

To answer your question...yea, I'd probably accept the sites for a regular submitter and I'd test those links just like I do any others. That's where the rub comes in...if the person you sold that link to has something nasty on there...it's your butt on the line

tigermom · 2006-05-01, 12:20 AM

Good points everyone. I already do have a link going to one of my sites on every freesite. Sometimes it's the same domain as the freesite is on, other times it's a different site on my network. I do this both for traffic and SEO as well. Of course, these being my sites, I have nothing to worry about. I do sometimes submit freesites in niches where I don't have hubs/sites of my own, hence the idea to rent out those spots.

I see your point about traffic UW, but I think some people do actually want links for PR alone. I have noticed that most of my freesites that made it into the recent update got a PR4, I think some people would find that alone attractive enough

I guess there is quite a management toll involved here. I might do this only for trusted webmasters, people that I know from the boards. It also makes me think that per-month is better than lifetime, in the sense that it will mean the webmaster has to stay in touch with me, and I with their site. I will also make very strict rules about the pages that I link to.

Useless · 2006-05-01, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tigermom

I see your point about traffic UW, but I think some people do actually want links for PR alone. I have noticed that most of my freesites that made it into the recent update got a PR4, I think some people would find that alone attractive enough

May I see them?

virgohippy · 2006-05-01, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Our hippy friend is on to something here. Simply selling a link with no guaranteed traffic delivery or exposure is nonsense. But setting up a simple system as Virgohippy just described would be best for you, as a submitter, and for the person purchasing traffic. I personally wouldn't ever purchase a link. Fuck links - people want traffic. Build a simple page, start adding a permanent link to that page from every free site you build and sell actual clicks. Use phpadsnew or some other banner delivery/control system. You'd never have to worry about getting your sites deleted for making changes after listing.

Joy! UW called me friend! Does this mean I can look forward to an undending supply of abusive foreplay?

I've yet to see a pr4 freesite... pr3's are common enough though. But, I think the point is that a whole bunch of freesite backlinks, for seo purposes, could be considered valuable. Although, I have a suspicion you might be better off just using all those links/traffic on your own sites to build up something with a bit more permanence.

But I'm just another inexperienced newbie.

If you do this, how much would you charge for this service? How much could you net if you used that traffic to push one of your own programs?

tigermom · 2006-05-01, 05:50 AM

I'm always happy to show off my sites

I have discussed this with hubby and decided to take your advice UW. Instead of selling links off the freesites directly, I will be selling them from the hub/hubs that I will build up (and am building up). I have almost always added a link from at least the warning page, often from all pages of a freesite, to one of my own sites, to build up traffic and PR. Sometimes that site I linked to doesn't even have too much content on it yet, and will be developed down the road.

I think I will develop them now with the thought of maybe selling some link spots there (so keeping them with relatively few outgoing links in general - not a link farm).

Most of my freesites have got PR3, but here are the ones that have PR4 -
http://www.captainhorny.com/tight-pink-pussy/
http://www.captainhorny.com/sucking-black-cock/
http://www.juicy-bored-housewives.co...ure-housewife/
http://www.college-sluts.net/college-slut-outdoors/
http://www.captainhorny.com/porn-audition/
http://www.heavy-hangers.net/heavy-hangers-pleasures/

I've only been doing this for 3 months now, so only submitted about 20 sites before the last toolbar update. Six of those got PR4, the rest are at PR3

2006-04-30, 11:12 AM	#1
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Linking to another site from a freesite Would this be considered ok - 1. Selling a link spot on my freesites to people. The outgoing link would be one of the three that I'm allowed (so, two links to my sponsor + one link to my link buyer). 2. Can I sell that spot per month, and change the link when I need do? if so, can I sell links on existing freesites, that have already been accepted and use one of the three outgoing links that I'm allowed to, for doing that? I'm asking because I don't see any clear rule here. From what I've seen everywhere, it's ok to have a link back to "your hub" or your site, if it's within the 3 links count. I figure a link to another site (which will essentially be my sponsor too as they will be paying for that link) should be ok, but I don't want to upset anyone. I want to do Freesites for the long run, so I figured I'd better ask first. __________________ XLEF

2006-04-30, 02:37 PM	#2
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	Interesting idea. I'm curious to know what the big players think about this as well. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2006-04-30, 04:16 PM	#3
Lemmy You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Next door to a kid with a moped. Posts: 1,492	I wouldn't have a problem with it as long as the site was legit and relevant. I would probably think it was a little odd if you sent the surfer to something totally unrelated to porn though. __________________ BUY MY PORNSITES!

2006-04-30, 06:51 PM	#5
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I see a potential problem that would cause me to hesitate listing that type of thing. If you rent the link, in effect, you lose control of the link, and who knows what will happen? Consoles, illegal stuff, 404, 302's etc... All reflecting on you the submitter. It seems like a good way for cheaters to linked without worrying about being banned because it isn't their submit. Bottom line the potential for abuse is just too high to risk listing it unfortunately. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-04-30, 07:05 PM	#6
Shark And Lord, we are especially thankful for nuclear power, the cleanest, safest energy source there is. Except for solar, which is just a pipe dream Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Israel Posts: 226	That ok if you got 3 max links per page and if those links are not sending surfers to illegal sites. __________________ Add sites to FreeSexHard Grant Domains

2006-04-30, 05:09 PM	#4
alessandro I don't have to be careful. I got a gun Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: The 3rd planet from the sun :) Posts: 365	I find it interesting too and I'd not consider it bad as long as it fits in the "3 max links per page" rule.

2006-04-30, 09:48 PM	#9
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	That's a tough call. On one hand, it's just another link...whatever it goes to isn't actually on your site. It very much does become another sponsor link. On the other hand, at least when that link goes to a sponsor site...there is at least some modicum of control. Sponsors get called out and blasted when they do something incredibly stupid. Having that link go to Joe Schmoes page...that Joe can do whatever his lilttle mind dreams up...that could get ugly. Then again, I've seen link sites closed down and replaced with some pretty nasty things...I'm sure there are recips out there to some of those. See, told ya it's a tough call Frankly, when you get to the short strokes...I don't think the management and hassle would be worth it. To keep your own butt protected, you'd almost have to monitor those links yourself. To answer your question...yea, I'd probably accept the sites for a regular submitter and I'd test those links just like I do any others. That's where the rub comes in...if the person you sold that link to has something nasty on there...it's your butt on the line __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2006-05-01, 12:20 AM	#10
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	Good points everyone. I already do have a link going to one of my sites on every freesite. Sometimes it's the same domain as the freesite is on, other times it's a different site on my network. I do this both for traffic and SEO as well. Of course, these being my sites, I have nothing to worry about. I do sometimes submit freesites in niches where I don't have hubs/sites of my own, hence the idea to rent out those spots. I see your point about traffic UW, but I think some people do actually want links for PR alone. I have noticed that most of my freesites that made it into the recent update got a PR4, I think some people would find that alone attractive enough I guess there is quite a management toll involved here. I might do this only for trusted webmasters, people that I know from the boards. It also makes me think that per-month is better than lifetime, in the sense that it will mean the webmaster has to stay in touch with me, and I with their site. I will also make very strict rules about the pages that I link to. __________________ XLEF

2006-05-01, 05:50 AM	#13
tigermom You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 893	I'm always happy to show off my sites I have discussed this with hubby and decided to take your advice UW. Instead of selling links off the freesites directly, I will be selling them from the hub/hubs that I will build up (and am building up). I have almost always added a link from at least the warning page, often from all pages of a freesite, to one of my own sites, to build up traffic and PR. Sometimes that site I linked to doesn't even have too much content on it yet, and will be developed down the road. I think I will develop them now with the thought of maybe selling some link spots there (so keeping them with relatively few outgoing links in general - not a link farm). Most of my freesites have got PR3, but here are the ones that have PR4 - http://www.captainhorny.com/tight-pink-pussy/ http://www.captainhorny.com/sucking-black-cock/ http://www.juicy-bored-housewives.co...ure-housewife/ http://www.college-sluts.net/college-slut-outdoors/ http://www.captainhorny.com/porn-audition/ http://www.heavy-hangers.net/heavy-hangers-pleasures/ I've only been doing this for 3 months now, so only submitted about 20 sites before the last toolbar update. Six of those got PR4, the rest are at PR3 __________________ XLEF