Unofficial Webmaster Poll

Licker4U · 2006-09-10, 11:12 AM

I was wondering what percentage of Pay/Signup or Revshare most webmasters use. The results would be interesting.

Jim · 2006-09-10, 11:25 AM

I was going to make this an actual poll for you but it appears I can't.

Toby · 2006-09-10, 11:31 AM

I use mostly revshare, around 75% of my monthly income. That's probably higher than the average since I promote mostly niche sites and single girl personality sites.

JustRobert · 2006-09-10, 11:42 AM

I'm with Toby on this. I love CCBill, then nats, then pps. Between CCBill and nats programs made up 85% of last months earnings.

SheepGuy · 2006-09-10, 12:34 PM

I do things a little different, about half of my income is from recurring AVS's, I also do well with PPS on cam sites, then it's paysite sponsors at about 10% where I almost always use revshare.

babymaker · 2006-09-10, 01:15 PM

revshare for me mostly since my niche rebills forever

otherwise i would be fucked lol

add to that i jave never been able to give away freeporn lol free sign-up and $1 trials never work for me but 29.95 month and 3 month 90.00 do great i don't get it(well, i do lol but it's a secret).

Cleo · 2006-09-10, 01:23 PM

Well over half my income each month is from revshare.

ponygirl · 2006-09-10, 01:28 PM

I was mostly using PPS for the quick payout but have been switching to some revshare now that my hosting is usually taken care of each month lol. I think I'll be moving more to revshare in the future too, rebills sure are nice

virgohippy · 2006-09-10, 02:17 PM

From all the advice I've gotten (said and unsaid

) I decided to stick with revshare right from the beggining.

I'd say I'm 95% revshare.

As far back as a few months ago I probably would have made more money using PPS, but now that I've got a small flow of all things going on my rebills should start to make up the difference.

DaveE · 2006-09-10, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Licker4U

I was wondering what percentage of Pay/Signup or Revshare most webmasters use. The results would be interesting.

Revshare is the only way in my opinion.

Some members renew for years

iMan · 2006-09-10, 03:49 PM

I was just about to ask the same question

At first I thought that this is a no-brainer. The money's got to be in revshare, so I used only reveshare codes.
Now, on my first 5 sites I've had a total of 9 signups, and I'm super happy about that

However, 7 were for revshare and only 1 of those stayed beyond the initial trial

So it seems like I would have done much better with PPS... unless that single one will stay as a member for 5 years or something I guess

Then again, if a sponsor is willing to pay $30 for a 2 dollar signup, it must mean that they average much more than $30 per signup.. right?

Licker4U · 2006-09-10, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim

I was going to make this an actual poll for you but it appears I can't.

Sorry about that

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cd34 · 2006-09-10, 05:17 PM

poll added.

Maj. Stress · 2006-09-10, 05:36 PM

I use mostly pps. After looking at my stats for the past few months, I will probably be adding a lot more revshare.

KG Gary · 2006-09-10, 08:04 PM

Mostly PPS for me at the moment, but I'm slowly starting to change to revshare......slowly.

virgohippy · 2006-09-10, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMan

Then again, if a sponsor is willing to pay $30 for a 2 dollar signup, it must mean that they average much more than $30 per signup.. right?

Ever wonder why so many sponsors start up and dissappear 6 months later?

The way I see it, traffic that rebills is what I want most because it fits in line with the type of business I want to run.

For that reason, I focus on seeking out and working with traffic that does just what you described.

JustRobert · 2006-09-10, 09:08 PM

Just noticed you're in my neck of california so howdy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMan

Then again, if a sponsor is willing to pay $30 for a 2 dollar signup, it must mean that they average much more than $30 per signup.. right?

Thats my opinion as well. But I only do revshare with ccbill cause I like it. I do it with nats cause I have to. Other programs that give option I choose PPS because I do not have visibility. ccbill programs give the ability to see how long a person has rebilled and whether or not they have canceled yet so you can forecast. I mentioned in another thread that last month sales and rebills were the same at ccbill. Plus 80% had 3 payouts or more. 1 over 3 years, 3 over 2 years, 8 over 1 year and 16 over the 6 mo mark just to give a bit of info. Plus I can see that 11 people have canceled for next month at this time. Bummer

MrYum · 2006-09-10, 09:30 PM

I'm more heavily into PPS than I should be...working on changing that now

plateman · 2006-09-10, 10:35 PM

I seen the light when one popular webmaster told me how many rebills he had in one good day...

my experiance with PPS goes - thrive or starve with PPS, the last 2 months I have been building more towards rev share and long term success is more rev share with some pps mixed in as a added bonus...

thing is about changing your biz attack is that it takes to long to see results from PPS to rev share, but if you want to have a worth while income then you have to have a solid rebill income to get you over the rocky times

tickler · 2006-09-10, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iMan

However, 7 were for revshare and only 1 of those stayed beyond the initial trial

One of my few sponsors that I get volume bonuses with started showing my conversions from trials(over 50%

), so I am going to start to push more to their revshare program rather than PPS.

I mainly do revshare for the same reasons as Toby posted about niche and solo sites.

LB · 2006-09-11, 01:46 AM

The pps model is a payout based on all the income from the site. Many sites that use pps don't have good members areas but rely mostly on cross sales, upsells, member mailouts etc etc. So your payout is a reflection of the total income from the site, not the surfer retention specifically.

Thats all well and good, but I have to admit that even though revshare only rewards you for good retention, revshare has been the big moneymaker for me this year ... whereas pps made me the majority of my income since 2001. All the pps programs I promote have just stopped converting .. strange.

iMan · 2006-09-11, 02:28 AM

Quote:

Ever wonder why so many sponsors start up and dissappear 6 months later?

My initial thought is that they don't know what they're doing...or don't know what they're getting into

Quote:

The way I see it, traffic that rebills is what I want most because it fits in line with the type of business I want to run.
For that reason, I focus on seeking out and working with traffic that does just what you described.

Yea, no kidding!! LOL!!
But if everyone stayed as a member for years, I'm guessing that there would be even more, and WAY more, competition in this field of biz.

iMan · 2006-09-11, 02:47 AM

Quote:

Just noticed you're in my neck of california so howdy.

Hey JustRobert!

Nothing beats south CA!

Nice weather all year, bayby

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Thats my opinion as well. But I only do revshare with ccbill cause I like it.
I do it with nats cause I have to. Other programs that give option I choose PPS because I do not have visibility.
ccbill programs give the ability to see how long a person has rebilled and whether or not they have canceled yet so you can forecast.
I mentioned in another thread that last month sales and rebills were the same at ccbill.
Plus 80% had 3 payouts or more. 1 over 3 years, 3 over 2 years, 8 over 1 year and 16 over the 6 mo mark just to give a bit of info.
Plus I can see that 11 people have canceled for next month at this time. Bummer

I actually find CCBill's interface to be quite clunky compared to some of my other sponsors stats, but I haven't really gotten into it to much and I guess that that's a preference too.. and if/when I have 300+ rebills with CCBill I might se things differently

iMan · 2006-09-11, 03:18 AM

Quote:

One of my few sponsors that I get volume bonuses with started showing my conversions from trials(over 50% ), so I am going to start to push more to their revshare program rather than PPS.

I mainly do revshare for the same reasons as Toby posted about niche and solo sites.

Ok.
So is this a BIG diffeence?
Are there categories that ALWAYS convert rebills better than others?

I can see that a 'Teen" category might be a big seller (although I wouldn't even try to touch it with my 10 feet pole

) but since there is SO damn much free good stuff out there, why even bother??

And is a ,say BDSM category, a more worthy rebill target?

Greenguy · 2006-09-11, 08:47 AM

I think that by default, most people use more revshare.

As everyone knows, I'm signed up to a lot of programs. The ratio of revshare to PPS is over 2:1

Now, if you ask me which one I make more money from, that's a different story

View Poll Results: Which do you use most? Revshare/Parnership or Per-Signup sponsors
I use mostly Revshare/Partnership Sponsors	27	32.14%
I use mostly Persignup Sponsors	39	46.43%
I use both equally	18	21.43%
Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

2006-09-10, 11:12 AM	#1
Licker4U Mean people suck, nice people swallow, are you mean or nice? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Lower Alabama-The Redneck Riviera Posts: 2,377	Unofficial Webmaster Poll I was wondering what percentage of Pay/Signup or Revshare most webmasters use. The results would be interesting.

2006-09-10, 11:31 AM	#3
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2006-09-10, 11:42 AM	#4
JustRobert Bow Ties Are Cool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: California Posts: 9,653	I'm with Toby on this. I love CCBill, then nats, then pps. Between CCBill and nats programs made up 85% of last months earnings. __________________ Submit Your Galleries To The Erotic To Naughty Network!

2006-09-10, 12:34 PM	#5
SheepGuy It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,527	I do things a little different, about half of my income is from recurring AVS's, I also do well with PPS on cam sites, then it's paysite sponsors at about 10% where I almost always use revshare. __________________ If the Environment was a bank, they would have saved it by now.

2006-09-10, 11:25 AM	#2
Jim Banned Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mohawk, New York Posts: 19,477	I was going to make this an actual poll for you but it appears I can't.

2006-09-10, 01:15 PM	#6
babymaker Someone Turn Off The Damn Heat! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: The Sewer....err.philly i mean Posts: 1,366	revshare for me mostly since my niche rebills forever otherwise i would be fucked lol add to that i jave never been able to give away freeporn lol free sign-up and $1 trials never work for me but 29.95 month and 3 month 90.00 do great i don't get it(well, i do lol but it's a secret). __________________ *Get ElevatedX W/Hosting 99MO!*

2006-09-10, 01:23 PM	#7
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Well over half my income each month is from revshare. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2006-09-10, 01:28 PM	#8
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	I was mostly using PPS for the quick payout but have been switching to some revshare now that my hosting is usually taken care of each month lol. I think I'll be moving more to revshare in the future too, rebills sure are nice __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2006-09-10, 02:17 PM	#9
virgohippy Madness is like gravity. All it takes is a little... push. Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Posts: 1,679	From all the advice I've gotten (said and unsaid ) I decided to stick with revshare right from the beggining. I'd say I'm 95% revshare. As far back as a few months ago I probably would have made more money using PPS, but now that I've got a small flow of all things going on my rebills should start to make up the difference. __________________ ~Warm and Fuzzy.

2006-09-10, 03:49 PM	#11
iMan Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 101	I was just about to ask the same question At first I thought that this is a no-brainer. The money's got to be in revshare, so I used only reveshare codes. Now, on my first 5 sites I've had a total of 9 signups, and I'm super happy about that However, 7 were for revshare and only 1 of those stayed beyond the initial trial So it seems like I would have done much better with PPS... unless that single one will stay as a member for 5 years or something I guess Then again, if a sponsor is willing to pay $30 for a 2 dollar signup, it must mean that they average much more than $30 per signup.. right? __________________

2006-09-10, 05:17 PM	#13
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2006-09-10, 05:36 PM	#14
Maj. Stress Progress rarely comes in buckets, it normally comes in teaspoons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Dark Side Of Naboo Posts: 1,289	I use mostly pps. After looking at my stats for the past few months, I will probably be adding a lot more revshare.

2006-09-10, 08:04 PM	#15
KG Gary I can now put whatever I want in this space Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: South East UK Posts: 744	Mostly PPS for me at the moment, but I'm slowly starting to change to revshare......slowly. __________________ Sponsors that used to convert with freesites Over 700 clean freesites

2006-09-10, 09:30 PM	#18
MrYum Arghhhh...submit yer sites ya ruddy swabs! Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sunny Florida! Posts: 5,108	I'm more heavily into PPS than I should be...working on changing that now __________________ Porno Flixxx Submissions SOTI Site Submissions Free Porn Resource Submissions

2006-09-10, 10:35 PM	#19
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2006-09-11, 01:46 AM	#21
LB I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 291	The pps model is a payout based on all the income from the site. Many sites that use pps don't have good members areas but rely mostly on cross sales, upsells, member mailouts etc etc. So your payout is a reflection of the total income from the site, not the surfer retention specifically. Thats all well and good, but I have to admit that even though revshare only rewards you for good retention, revshare has been the big moneymaker for me this year ... whereas pps made me the majority of my income since 2001. All the pps programs I promote have just stopped converting .. strange. __________________ IW skype blance8888 icq 15567120

2006-09-11, 08:47 AM	#25
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