How many sites, and how many pages?

[frikkinpornster]

I've seen a lot of members here and other forums with loads of sites, sometimes 20+, but most are only a few pages, so I'm wondering, forgetting the amount of work involved, how many sites would I need to have, and how big would each one need to be, to earn a decent income from adult?

I know its a hard question to answer, there are so many things that could affect a sites revenue, but for example if you think you need 20 sites with 3-5 pages to earn $2000 a month or if you have some different statistics, then I'd love to hear about it. I've only got one site at the moment so I kinda want to start planning my next site (and then the next, and so on)

THX

[HowlingWulf]

How long is a piece of string?

[Mr Exotic]

You have a lot to learn.

I've had 1 page sites make 500/day and I've had 1000's and 1000's of pages make next to nothing. Its not how many pages you have, its how much traffic the pages get and the quality of that traffic.

[frikkinpornster]

Not so much a lot to learn, more getting out there and asking what other webmasters think. I don't think there is anything wrong in that, and who knows I might meet someone on this board who has a similar approach to me who can become part of my favorite sites to link to in return for advice/honesty etc

[Lemmy]

You need 43 sites with an average of 12.4 pages each to make serious money in porn.

[frikkinpornster]

Originally Posted by Lemmy

You need 43 sites with an average of 12.4 pages each to make serious money in porn.

That's very specific, THX, and now that I've finished laughing, would 18 sites with an average of 29.6 pages work as well?

[Mr Exotic]

Originally Posted by frikkinpornster

Not so much a lot to learn

Yes, so much to learn.
I'm not being rude man, just helping you to get a realistic view of things. I've been doing this shit in one form or another since '99. For you to ask that question clearly states that you dont even have a clue. I dont have an exact count, but in my estimation I have something like 500 or more free sites that are 4 pages each, a link list that with all the various different things I have on there that have probably over 1500 pages, and literally 1000's and 1000's of gallery pages out there. Not to mention countless other shit I've done years ago thats gotta be another 2-3000 pages total. And guess what, I dont make even close to how much I would like to make/need to make. If the amount of pages you have = how much money you make I would surely be a millionaire by now, and to alot of people I probably only make chump change.

[Lemmy]

Nope, research shows that 43/12.4 is the optimal ratio.

Sorry dude, but your question kinda begged a response like that. I'm hardly ever a smartass around here, but you made it too tempting.

Like others have suggested success in porn has nothing to do with number of sites or pages/site. It's about what you promote, how you promote it, who you promote it to, traffic generating skills and a ton of other variables.

All I can say for sure is you need to be putting stuff out there consistently. Get some more domains, build, update, promote, learn, read, ask specific (sensible) questions, try different things and see what works for you.

[frikkinpornster]

guys, thanks for the thoughts, yeah I know it seems like a dumb question, but adult is very different in a lot of ways from mainstream. I already make a good full-time income from mainstream, I've got several sites with pagerank and good traffic, but the people who go to porn sites is a motivation I don't understand fully. I mean are people looking for a great site with loads of content, or a quick and dirty one page with a bunch of pictures and videos and 10 minutes later they're done? Getting some opinions would help me understand the industry better.

@Lemmy and @Mr Exotic, no problem with the truth, glad you guys stopped by.

[T Pat]

I've tried to make money in mainstream a bunch of times and failed as have a bunch of adult webmasters I know so for being a newbie your way ahead of the game.
I took a look at your site it looks like a combination blog/tgp both of those business models need new content added at least a couple times a week, see how that makes the number of pages/sites a moving target? and that's just a couple of the variables.
My best advise is to start going to ON The Bench on Saturdays a lot of knowledge is freely shared there

[frikkinpornster]

Originally Posted by T Pat

I've tried to make money in mainstream a bunch of times and failed as have a bunch of adult webmasters I know so for being a newbie your way ahead of the game.
I took a look at your site it looks like a combination blog/tgp both of those business models need new content added at least a couple times a week, see how that makes the number of pages/sites a moving target? and that's just a couple of the variables.
My best advise is to start going to ON The Bench on Saturdays a lot of knowledge is freely shared there

"On the Bench" sorry, thats new terminology I haven't come across, of course that could be coz I'm not American so anyone care to explain. Thx

[T Pat]

Originally Posted by frikkinpornster

"On the Bench" sorry, thats new terminology I haven't come across, of course that could be coz I'm not American so anyone care to explain. Thx

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=46871

[ronnie]

If your making a good income in mainstream, why do you want to get into adult? Seems so many people see the press that porn is a billion dollar what every business. They don't tell you it's very competitive, higher saturated in many parts and every body and their brother fighting for traffic. Did I mention the crappy ratio's that have gone down drastically over the years? Or the the tube sites that keep adding longer clips? Pretty soon surfers won't need to pay.

Do I give out some great encouragement or what?

Porn greatly leads the online business world for giving out the most free content.

Course you did ask a good question. Any business you want to get some kind of idea before you put too much in to it. So my post wasn't digging on you. Least you spoke up and asked..

[Useless]

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

How long is a piece of string?

As vague as it is, that's probably the best answer here.

You are best off building as many sites on as many domains as you can, whether they be small niche 3-5 page hubs or larger, more generic sites. I'm the kind of guy who likes to take on big sites with hundreds of pages and a jungle of different scripts running it all, but frankly, I'd think the wisest way to begin would be to purchase several domains, all niche-specific. Build a small hub on each one with a nice mixture of photo and rich text content and get a few niche link exchanges on each. Represent a small handful of paysites on each. Keep building in that manner and interlink your small sites. Creating your own network of sites which don't require constant updates or repairs and aren't overly and directly dependent on other people's traffic is best.

[japamor]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

purchase several domains, all niche-specific. Build a small hub on each one with a nice mixture of photo and rich text content and get a few niche link exchanges on each. Represent a small handful of paysites on each. Keep building in that manner and interlink your small sites. Creating your own network of sites which don't require constant updates or repairs and aren't overly and directly dependent on other people's traffic is best.

Excellent advice from UW

[frikkinpornster]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

As vague as it is, that's probably the best answer here.

You are best off building as many sites on as many domains as you can, whether they be small niche 3-5 page hubs or larger, more generic sites. I'm the kind of guy who likes to take on big sites with hundreds of pages and a jungle of different scripts running it all, but frankly, I'd think the wisest way to begin would be to purchase several domains, all niche-specific. Build a small hub on each one with a nice mixture of photo and rich text content and get a few niche link exchanges on each. Represent a small handful of paysites on each. Keep building in that manner and interlink your small sites. Creating your own network of sites which don't require constant updates or repairs and aren't overly and directly dependent on other people's traffic is best.

I love this answer. Thanx, now where is the reputation button