Aussie censorship boss admits net censorship won't stop pedophiles

tickler · 2009-03-31, 12:56 PM

Well, duh!

THE Federal Government's proposed internet censorship regime is not the silver bullet to stop child pornography, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said.
http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html

J. Falcon - ACW · 2009-03-31, 05:11 PM

No kidding, better that they realize that late than never.

nate · 2009-03-31, 05:29 PM

Nothing sucks worse than punishing many for the sins of the few. Americans should thank James Madison and Thomas Jefferson for the Bill of Rights every morning when they wake up. 2257 tried some of this shit, but so far has been slapped down by the SCOTUS in it's overbroad wording which is nothing more than lots of legal mumbo-jumbo for proxied prior restraint. The government should punish the people doing illegal shit instead of writing new laws to impede free speech. It shouldn't be our responsibility to make anything easier for the government. If that's a responsibility you want to take on, by all means do. But legislating it is wrong and does little but provide roadblocks to citizens who have a constitutional right to express themselves within community standards. Austrailians should demand freedom of expression and freedom from prior restraint, or kick the politicians out of office until you get it.

Ms Naughty · 2009-03-31, 06:16 PM

There's a very large online protest movement against this filtering plan, although we've discovered that nerds are disinclined to leave the house and attend meat world protests. Everything Senator Conroy says seems to be made up on the spot, he's creating policy on the run... but he still persists.

By the way, I read a rather frightening thing yesterday on Wikileaks.org but I recommend others take a look at it. It's called "My life in CP" and it's written by an anonymous person who used to deal in it. He spills the beans on exactly how this stuff gets around and the motivations behind it. Essentially, a mandatory filter is the dumbest thing you could possibly do to stop it.

If you do read it, a warning: it's kinda confronting. But it also has a few interesting bits of information regarding the growing child protection industry and their lobby groups, some of them operated by fundamentalist christians to forward their own moral agenda.

nate · 2009-03-31, 06:43 PM

I wouldn't blame all the Christians, after all Mormonism is a branch of Christianity and they were all for sexing up 13 year olds before the feminist movement grabbed the nuts of the US government who in turn forced law-abiding Mormons to abandon a fundamental tenet of their religion and not do the nasty with anyone under 16 or 18 or whatever their age of consent is. At least that way girls could get an education before brothers smith et al turned them into reproductive machines. And really, shouldn't all reproductive machines should be well educated.

The fundementalists christians would like to impose there morality on everyone, but it's only the wack-jobs that are pushing to curb the rights of speech. Those people should read about Romans and lions and Colosseums before they get on their high horses. Their speech is no more protected than the pornographers. If the government can stop a man from showing pictures of titties to another man that wants to look at titties, it can also stop a man from saying "praise god".

I suggest everyone become libertarian and keep their goddamn noses out of other people's business. The world would improve 1000% if that were to happen.

nekrom · 2009-03-31, 06:53 PM

The muppet was on Insight last night, dodging questions with fantastic political skill. Along with the usual Christian Lobby nutjobs, associated wouzers, Mark Newton from Iinet & Fiona Patten. But we must have the filter, won't somebody think of the children!

-N

anasporn · 2009-03-31, 06:55 PM

nate, I'm starting to really like you ...

Now how can we get *our* country (US) back to following its own Constitution?

nate · 2009-03-31, 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anasporn

nate, I'm starting to really like you ...

Now how can we get *our* country (US) back to following its own Constitution?

I think we still have our country and the constitution is guiding it along pretty well. We should consider ourselves lucky to have had such great founding fathers that gave us a way of retaining our freedoms.

All we can do is vote for the people we think will best protect our rights. Americans can be pretty dumb, but we generally pick pretty good leaders. By that I mean we usually keep the wack-jobs and their poodles out of power. Well, not counting minnesota. There must be some shit in their water that fucks them up in the membrane.

What has really degraded America is the migration of state law to federal control. The same people that whine because you can't (or couldn't) smoke medical pot in California without the federal government circumventing state law and busting the blurry-eyed potheads are the same people that cheer for the fed every time it trumps a state law banning abortion. And vice versa.

It isnt our rights that have hit the shitter, it is the concept of state's rights that has been flushed.

anasporn · 2009-03-31, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nate

it is the concept of state's rights that has been flushed.

Well, there is this thing called the Tenth Amendment! And I have heard some interesting rumors about six states wanting to press that one ...

2009-03-31, 12:56 PM	#1
tickler If there is nobody out there, that's a lot of real estate going to waste! Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,177	Aussie censorship boss admits net censorship won't stop pedophiles Well, duh! THE Federal Government's proposed internet censorship regime is not the silver bullet to stop child pornography, Communications Minister Stephen Conroy said. http://www.news.com.au/adelaidenow/s...006301,00.html __________________ Latina Twins, Solo, NN, Hardcore Latin Teen Cash

2009-03-31, 05:11 PM	#2
J. Falcon - ACW Are you sure you're an accredited and honored pornographer? Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 64	No kidding, better that they realize that late than never. __________________ Adult Copywriters johnfalcon (at) adultcopywriters.com ICQ 229-405-620

2009-03-31, 06:16 PM	#4
Ms Naughty old enough to be Grandma Scrotum Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 1,408	There's a very large online protest movement against this filtering plan, although we've discovered that nerds are disinclined to leave the house and attend meat world protests. Everything Senator Conroy says seems to be made up on the spot, he's creating policy on the run... but he still persists. By the way, I read a rather frightening thing yesterday on Wikileaks.org but I recommend others take a look at it. It's called "My life in CP" and it's written by an anonymous person who used to deal in it. He spills the beans on exactly how this stuff gets around and the motivations behind it. Essentially, a mandatory filter is the dumbest thing you could possibly do to stop it. If you do read it, a warning: it's kinda confronting. But it also has a few interesting bits of information regarding the growing child protection industry and their lobby groups, some of them operated by fundamentalist christians to forward their own moral agenda. __________________ Promote Bright Desire

2009-03-31, 06:53 PM	#6
nekrom Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 263	The muppet was on Insight last night, dodging questions with fantastic political skill. Along with the usual Christian Lobby nutjobs, associated wouzers, Mark Newton from Iinet & Fiona Patten. But we must have the filter, won't somebody think of the children! -N __________________ The afp ownz all your base.

2009-03-31, 06:55 PM	#7
anasporn If something's hard to do, then it's not worth doing Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 249	nate, I'm starting to really like you ... Now how can we get our country (US) back to following its own Constitution? __________________ "TGP2 Queen" and yes, still crazy! My TGP2 articles on right hand side

2009-03-31, 05:29 PM	#3
nate I can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Merica! Posts: 543	Nothing sucks worse than punishing many for the sins of the few. Americans should thank James Madison and Thomas Jefferson for the Bill of Rights every morning when they wake up. 2257 tried some of this shit, but so far has been slapped down by the SCOTUS in it's overbroad wording which is nothing more than lots of legal mumbo-jumbo for proxied prior restraint. The government should punish the people doing illegal shit instead of writing new laws to impede free speech. It shouldn't be our responsibility to make anything easier for the government. If that's a responsibility you want to take on, by all means do. But legislating it is wrong and does little but provide roadblocks to citizens who have a constitutional right to express themselves within community standards. Austrailians should demand freedom of expression and freedom from prior restraint, or kick the politicians out of office until you get it.

2009-03-31, 06:43 PM	#5
nate I can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Merica! Posts: 543	I wouldn't blame all the Christians, after all Mormonism is a branch of Christianity and they were all for sexing up 13 year olds before the feminist movement grabbed the nuts of the US government who in turn forced law-abiding Mormons to abandon a fundamental tenet of their religion and not do the nasty with anyone under 16 or 18 or whatever their age of consent is. At least that way girls could get an education before brothers smith et al turned them into reproductive machines. And really, shouldn't all reproductive machines should be well educated. The fundementalists christians would like to impose there morality on everyone, but it's only the wack-jobs that are pushing to curb the rights of speech. Those people should read about Romans and lions and Colosseums before they get on their high horses. Their speech is no more protected than the pornographers. If the government can stop a man from showing pictures of titties to another man that wants to look at titties, it can also stop a man from saying "praise god". I suggest everyone become libertarian and keep their goddamn noses out of other people's business. The world would improve 1000% if that were to happen.