Boy-O-Boy, that kooky zaney guy Bush

spazlabz · 2003-09-03, 05:33 PM

Damn, and I do mean DAY-YAM!
That nutty half wit in the oval office just can't stop himself from messing with people. I mean just give this a read No More OT For YOU Must be killer to have abso-fucking-lutely NO Concern for everyday, non gadzillionaire American citizens. Bend and spread US, your geTting fucked by a bush!

spaz

Greenguy · 2003-09-03, 05:56 PM

There's 2 ways to look at OT (and take it from someone who knows)

1 way is from the companies point of view - working 4 guys 10 hours (8 straight @ 2 at time & a half) is CHEAPER than working 5 guys 8 hours (no OT) - this is due to benefits & insurance & other costs that are not really taken into account when you look at salaries or wages

The other way is that, based on the scenario above, you'd have to hire a few more people to do what the others were doing on OT, which means more jobs & less unemployment.

OT is great because of the extra money, but it sucks because of the longer days & lack of time with the family.

Personally, I think the "real" would should be more like our little porn world - everything based on comission - the harder you work, the more you make. I've worked with & got paid the same amount as some really moronic slugs in my time - LOL

Surfn · 2003-09-07, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Greenguy
I've worked with & got paid the same amount as some really moronic slugs in my time - LOL

Hey I resemble that remark

|rasta|

spazlabz · 2003-09-07, 08:32 AM

well, the problem I have with what Bush is trying to do here is that when I worked construction, for small companies, There were times I held the title of 'forman'. It seemed like an honorary title. Sure I made a few cents more an hour than everyone I worked with, but it was basically a position that my bosses could yell at when something screwed up. the only thing I 'managed' was to stay employed heh heh. But I got OT by the bucketful. I didn't want it. At the time I had a young wife, a baby, and my desire to be playing in the dirt or knocking over widowmaker pines just wasn't there. Didnt mind putting in my 40, but wanted to be home past that. Many was the 60-70 hour work week. The money was great, not that I got to spend any of it, I was working or sleeping.
But that was the norm. summertime comes, your gonna work long hours. Long hours meant more money. It seems to me as though Bush wants to get rid of that for a LOT of workers. Not all, but plenty by reclassifying them as managers, and making it easier for bosses to make them salary. Thats a big hit for someone to take financially, esp if they live paycheck to paycheck, like I did. I worked construction in the south, so it wasn't as seasonal.
I don't know, I agree with GG that some people, no matter what their job field, are way overpaid. I have seen guys standing around watching one guy work for an entire day, occassionally kicking a dirt clod aside with their shoe, and still drawing a paycheck, and that what you actually do should be what your pay is based on. But that won't happen, but this bill may.

spaz

2003-09-03, 05:33 PM	#1
spazlabz You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bluegrass State Posts: 963	Boy-O-Boy, that kooky zaney guy Bush Damn, and I do mean DAY-YAM! That nutty half wit in the oval office just can't stop himself from messing with people. I mean just give this a read No More OT For YOU Must be killer to have abso-fucking-lutely NO Concern for everyday, non gadzillionaire American citizens. Bend and spread US, your geTting fucked by a bush! spaz __________________

2003-09-03, 05:56 PM	#2
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	There's 2 ways to look at OT (and take it from someone who knows) 1 way is from the companies point of view - working 4 guys 10 hours (8 straight @ 2 at time & a half) is CHEAPER than working 5 guys 8 hours (no OT) - this is due to benefits & insurance & other costs that are not really taken into account when you look at salaries or wages The other way is that, based on the scenario above, you'd have to hire a few more people to do what the others were doing on OT, which means more jobs & less unemployment. OT is great because of the extra money, but it sucks because of the longer days & lack of time with the family. Personally, I think the "real" would should be more like our little porn world - everything based on comission - the harder you work, the more you make. I've worked with & got paid the same amount as some really moronic slugs in my time - LOL __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2003-09-07, 08:32 AM	#4
spazlabz You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Bluegrass State Posts: 963	well, the problem I have with what Bush is trying to do here is that when I worked construction, for small companies, There were times I held the title of 'forman'. It seemed like an honorary title. Sure I made a few cents more an hour than everyone I worked with, but it was basically a position that my bosses could yell at when something screwed up. the only thing I 'managed' was to stay employed heh heh. But I got OT by the bucketful. I didn't want it. At the time I had a young wife, a baby, and my desire to be playing in the dirt or knocking over widowmaker pines just wasn't there. Didnt mind putting in my 40, but wanted to be home past that. Many was the 60-70 hour work week. The money was great, not that I got to spend any of it, I was working or sleeping. But that was the norm. summertime comes, your gonna work long hours. Long hours meant more money. It seems to me as though Bush wants to get rid of that for a LOT of workers. Not all, but plenty by reclassifying them as managers, and making it easier for bosses to make them salary. Thats a big hit for someone to take financially, esp if they live paycheck to paycheck, like I did. I worked construction in the south, so it wasn't as seasonal. I don't know, I agree with GG that some people, no matter what their job field, are way overpaid. I have seen guys standing around watching one guy work for an entire day, occassionally kicking a dirt clod aside with their shoe, and still drawing a paycheck, and that what you actually do should be what your pay is based on. But that won't happen, but this bill may. spaz __________________