Project ideas?

[Entreri]

As I am still a newbie watching from the trenches, I would like to slowly be involved in this industry. As primarily a coder and software quality assurance guy, I'd like to do some code jobs for free (as long as they aren't large projects!).

Or, if you can suggest a tool that might be useful to the community that I could code to escape from boredom, I'm all ears.

On the same topic, I thought about making a tool that ensures an affiliate of yours to give you credit even if the user doesn't directly click the link or tries to manually remove the affiliate id. For instance, say you're advertising a sponsor "SuperDuperBoobies" and the user directly types the address in the URL. Or doesn't want to click on your link that is filled with affiliate parameters. I've seen this kind of tools sold for "mainsteam" affiliate programs and was wondering if this technique would be accepted by (most) adult sponsors.

Entreri.

[Cleo]

How would the affiliate still know where the surfer came from if they didn't click the link?

[Bill]

How about coding a fake link list script? Or you might want to call it a Hub script...

Output would have to be html pages, feed in a text list of your own sites plius hosted galleries, and it generates a site with index page, fpa page, main page, 12 category FPAs and 12 category pages.

Some kind of ad rotator that rotates html snippets on the pages, and rotates FPAs.

And a list rotator, so that the sites in the category pages are randomly resorted every time the page loads. Throw in a feature so that if yopu have 40 sites for that category, the script randomly chooses 25 entries, so the checksum on the page is always changing.

[Entreri]

Originally posted by Cleo
How would the affiliate still know where the surfer came from if they didn't click the link?

Come to think about it, I'm not sure it would be worthwhile as adult webmasters use many sponsors whereas mainstream webmasters often rely on a single one (ex. Clickbank). It would be too much hassle to determine which sponsor allows this technique. It also works only on sponsors who "remember" the users you sent them (through cookies).

Just FYI, here's how it would have worked :

1. User opens your web page.
2. The web page does a hit on the sponsor link (through an embed src). The sponsor's cookie (with your affiliate id) is stored on the user's computer at that point.
3. Whether your user clicks the link to your sponsor or manually enters the URL, you'll earn credit for that user.
Anyhow, as I've said, probably too much hassle but I'm brainstorming here.

Entreri.

[Entreri]

Originally posted by Bill
How about coding a fake link list script? Or you might want to call it a Hub script...

Output would have to be html pages, feed in a text list of your own sites plius hosted galleries, and it generates a site with index page, fpa page, main page, 12 category FPAs and 12 category pages.

Some kind of ad rotator that rotates html snippets on the pages, and rotates FPAs.

And a list rotator, so that the sites in the category pages are randomly resorted every time the page loads. Throw in a feature so that if yopu have 40 sites for that category, the script randomly chooses 25 entries, so the checksum on the page is always changing.

Wouldn't it be easier to use a regular link list and simply not put a submission form?
Seriously, doesn't seem very difficult to do but I'm not sure how useful that would be. Or I'm not quite grasping the idea. |noclue|

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[Bill]

Tell you what, write it for me, give me the rights, I'll pay you a hundred dollars.

Let's see, what else could I use a script for...

Ah yes, I could use a referrers counter, invisible on the page, that showed me referrers and numbers of visitors from those referrers, and nothing else. It would be ideal if it was a snippet of code that could be inserted into the html of the page, and wrote output to an html page or sent an html email for as long as it was on the page. It should be small, fast, and light on the resource use. I don't want any complex installation, I want to be able to copy and paste the code into the page, upload the page, and the next day have a page of output to tell me about the referrers to the page.

What else? A solid and durable html rotator, most of the free scripts available are too unreliable for adult business use.

I could think of a dozen more, but I have a head cold right now, so maybe later.

[Entreri]

Originally posted by Bill
Tell you what, write it for me, give me the rights, I'll pay you a hundred dollars.

I wouldn't want any money. I'm actually more interested in tools that would to webmasters (and thus eventually for me) that I could write.

However, being the newbie that I am, I don't fully understand the terminology used in the adult business yet. The way I understand it is that you feed a bunch of (your) categorized links into a text file or mysql database. A link list site is generated using the information contained in the database (categories, links, link weight, etc.) Is that it? You have an example of a link list (eg. a site) you would want to have "emulated" that way?

Ah yes, I could use a referrers counter, invisible on the page, that showed me referrers and numbers of visitors from those referrers, and nothing else. It would be ideal if it was a snippet of code that could be inserted into the html of the page, and wrote output to an html page or sent an html email for as long as it was on the page. It should be small, fast, and light on the resource use. I don't want any complex installation, I want to be able to copy and paste the code into the page, upload the page, and the next day have a page of output to tell me about the referrers to the page.

I'd be fairly easy to do plain referrer reporting. It becomes more interesting when you have stats, graphs and stuff like that. There are many of those scripts available - is there anything specific here that would be useful? p.s. light on resource as in not using a database? It could simply be a an embed src or a 1x1 invisible pixel or a line of ssi.

What else? A solid and durable html rotator, most of the free scripts available are too unreliable for adult business use.

Show me an html rotator that you 'like' and tell me what you don't like about it and why it isn't reliable enough for you and I'll see what I can do.

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[Bill]

I'd be more interested in the drop-in referrer counter than the hub creator right now, so I'll just talk about that.

It only needs to collect and output two things, the exact url of the referrer and the number of visitors from each referrer. It doesn't need to be that accurate even, so a java script might do best.

The output could be a simple html page with two columns, one for number and one for referrer. The referrer link should be clickable html link, not text.

Absolutely no need for graphs, or any other info. Better if it does the least possible, keep it fast and rugged.

A line of ssi implies that the page be an shtml or that the proper htaccess be set, it would be better if it could be dropped onto a plain html page. It's okay if it is attached to a gif, but I don't want to have to use a 1x1 gif, make it so that I can attach it to any size gif.

It's purpose is to take in-house samples of traffic, especially search engine traffic, to a page without having to do log analysis.

It would be absolutely ideal if it could collect months of data, if left in place, just constantly adding referrer information to an html page that I can view.

You make a counter that does that, chances are decent you'll make a name with it.

[venturi]

Personally, I'm not a big fan of "free" business tools in general. Open Source stuff has it's place and I ain't gonna knock products like phpAdsNew, phpBB2, osCommerce, etc. that have gone open source. But, after 20+ years of being a professional programmer I'm not about to "give away" my services that are custom tailored to a given business' needs. Hobbyist programmers need to realize that the people they are giving these "free" tools to are going to be making money off of their efforts, many will be making *serious* money off of them, so before you go and just hand over your toil and effort you should consider that getting some reward in return should be high on your priority list.

If you're not a seasoned veteran in programming and are just trying to learn then I guess maybe it'd be acceptable to do free work for the experience. However, consider this... Does McDonalds ask you to work for free while you are training on how the fry vats work?

[Entreri]

Originally posted by venturi
Personally, I'm not a big fan of "free" business tools in general. Open Source stuff has it's place and I ain't gonna knock products like phpAdsNew, phpBB2, osCommerce, etc. that have gone open source. But, after 20+ years of being a professional programmer I'm not about to "give away" my services that are custom tailored to a given business' needs. Hobbyist programmers need to realize that the people they are giving these "free" tools to are going to be making money off of their efforts, many will be making *serious* money off of them, so before you go and just hand over your toil and effort you should consider that getting some reward in return should be high on your priority list.

Unlike you, I am not currently in the business of selling my services. (Well yes, but not in the adult industry) I just like to share my knowledge to the community which happens to be code...

Then again, if I do code a "free tool", it is also with the intent of using it myself and therefore it is factored in the design. If somebody has a nice idea, I see no harm in implementing it.

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[Vovan [AVCash]]

Originally posted by Bill
I'd be more interested in the drop-in referrer counter than the hub creator right now, so I'll just talk about that.

It only needs to collect and output two things, the exact url of the referrer and the number of visitors from each referrer. It doesn't need to be that accurate even, so a java script might do best.

The output could be a simple html page with two columns, one for number and one for referrer. The referrer link should be clickable html link, not text.

Absolutely no need for graphs, or any other info. Better if it does the least possible, keep it fast and rugged.

A line of ssi implies that the page be an shtml or that the proper htaccess be set, it would be better if it could be dropped onto a plain html page. It's okay if it is attached to a gif, but I don't want to have to use a 1x1 gif, make it so that I can attach it to any size gif.

It's purpose is to take in-house samples of traffic, especially search engine traffic, to a page without having to do log analysis.

It would be absolutely ideal if it could collect months of data, if left in place, just constantly adding referrer information to an html page that I can view.

You make a counter that does that, chances are decent you'll make a name with it.

Our partnership program got such counter
It can even show you the CTR of your links and much more info you need. Even number of signups for each of your referers!

Look here: http://www.avcash.com/

[Porn Princess]

Originally posted by venturi
...If you're not a seasoned veteran in programming and are just trying to learn then I guess maybe it'd be acceptable to do free work for the experience. However, consider this... Does McDonalds ask you to work for free while you are training on how the fry vats work?

I was thinking this was a good point...until I remembered a non-profit agency I had chosen to do volunteer work for two years before being hired as staff. I recieved a lot of training and experience in exchange for that two year stint, AND it lead to a great full time job.

Also, I don't think McDonald's would ask you to work for free, but if you offered to do it for the chance to get to know the other fry vat workers and learn all about the bells and whistles of the necessary functions of that machine I betcha most managers would pounce on the free labor.


On the other hand, I can see the irritation of trying to make a living doing something you are good at, only to have someone else offering to tinker around with the same thing offering it as a free service.

[Opti]

Originally posted by Bill
How about coding a fake link list script? Or you might want to call it a Hub script...

Output would have to be html pages, feed in a text list of your own sites plius hosted galleries, and it generates a site with index page, fpa page, main page, 12 category FPAs and 12 category pages.

Some kind of ad rotator that rotates html snippets on the pages, and rotates FPAs.

And a list rotator, so that the sites in the category pages are randomly resorted every time the page loads. Throw in a feature so that if yopu have 40 sites for that category, the script randomly chooses 25 entries, so the checksum on the page is always changing.

Old Tom posted some php code on the siccash board designed to handle the display of hosted gallery links almost exactly the way you sound like you want them... if you understand basic php and can use the online manual at php.net you should be able to modify his code to do just what you want...

I have 80% completed the code for a dynamic hub site pretty much exactly as you describe... if you are prepared to put together the data for the gallery DB and html for the category FPAs that we can both use... I would be happy to handle the coding to make it work.