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Old 2005-06-15, 01:40 PM   #1
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New way to make free sites - what you think

Okay normally you may make a free site the followin way (providing you already have recip tables):

Time it takes is just an example.

Normal Way:
-Build new free site with new content - 2hr
-Duplicate whole free site for each recip table and Submit: 1hr


New Way:
-Build new free site with new content - 2hr
-Instead of just duplicating the free site for each recip table rewrite the content (words not the pics) so each free site has significantly different content so it wont be omitted from search results as duplicated content - this was if you have say several recip tables - then several sites - all seven will be included in search results and not just the one -
I assume this would also make your site appear bigger to SEs and raise you PR and also allow you to target more keywords and get more SE traffic.

But takes time - submitting all sites takes 2hrs normally then plus 30mins for each re-write of the free site (if you have 7 recip tables then 7 sites you will re-write it an extra 6 times from the original) - this will take 3hrs.

So to sum up:

Normal way.

Time: 3hrs to do
For this get lots of LL traffic.
But only one site for SEs to see.

New way:
Takes 6hrs.
Get the same LL traffic for twice as much time making it.
But get seven SE pages so more SE traffic and ranking for you site overall.


--To make seven new pages for your site using normal way (3hrs each) would take a total of 21hrs (2-3 days) where as the new way it would be done in 6hrs.
But.. It takes you twice as long to get the same amount of traffic from LLs with the new way.

What do you guys think of this idea??
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Old 2005-06-15, 02:55 PM   #2
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its actually exactly what a few of us have been recommending people do instead of mirroring for quite some time - I think D Dave first brought this up a few years ago to prevent that dupe penalty youre talking about and ti definitely has merits - some of the small details that you would have to consider is having copies of the images for each of the sites so that you could use link-targetting on them - remembering to vary the way you use a naming convention - again to keep the SEs from finding them too similar

But - the other thing to consider - is it worth those extra hours - when you could be building other sites for just the SEs - and watching your referrals from the LLs closely enough to figure out how you can get down to one submit site a day with 12-16 LLs on it
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Old 2005-06-15, 03:37 PM   #3
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I think i'm gonna mix it up a bit and do both. Say one SE style freesite a week and 5-7 duplicate style a week.

Could I just ask you (Linkster) to clarify a couple of points from your last post:

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having copies of the images for each of the sites so that you could use link-targetting on them - remembering to vary the way you use a naming convention - again to keep the SEs from finding them too similar
What do you mean by this? Is it different alt text for each picture or different names for each picture?

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and watching your referrals from the LLs closely enough to figure out how you can get down to one submit site a day with 12-16 LLs on it
Do you mean just checking which LLs are worth submitting too?
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Old 2005-06-15, 03:44 PM   #4
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For the pictures - Ive done it both ways - renaming pics and having them in a different directory - although it takes a little more space - does seem to help (especially if you name them in a theme with the name of the site) and changing the alt text.

I think that some of us have watched referrals closely enough to work out a "percentage gain" ratio for LLs to give us the ability to have a submit list whittled down by niche to no more than about 16 - it does take a while and for the larger LL owners that I know that use this approach - their submit lists are all different dependant on their selling abilities and what they are comfortable with for a work - to - return ratio
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:11 PM   #5
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For the pictures - Ive done it both ways - renaming pics and having them in a different directory
I have each free site in a brand new directory so is that okay?

Or should I then rename the directory of the pics and the pics themselves?
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:39 PM   #6
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If you make the content of one of the free sites target the phrase Pope Stuffs Buttplug - then the pics would be pope-stuffs-buttplug1.jpg etc
The next site would target Buttplugged Gangbang Pope and the pics would be named buttplugged-gangbang-pope1.jpg and so on - the directories I usually name one of the least frequently searched terms to ensure I come up for that
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:42 PM   #7
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i did it like this last year, build new site 30 minutes, no mirrioring or whatever , put up the linksites on the real index who will link you forever and done submitting in 5 minutes.. and i am realy not planning to change that, well i do i dont wanna build anymore
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:44 PM   #8
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If you make the content of one of the free sites target the phrase Pope Stuffs Buttplug - then the pics would be pope-stuffs-buttplug1.jpg etc
The next site would target Buttplugged Gangbang Pope and the pics would be named buttplugged-gangbang-pope1.jpg and so on - the directories I usually name one of the least frequently searched terms to ensure I come up for that
you forgot oompa loompa
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:49 PM   #9
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ooops sorry Stuveltje:

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

What do you get when you guzzle down sweets?
Eating as much as an elephant eats
What are you at getting terribly fat?
What do you think will come of that?

I don't like the look of it

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

Gum chewing's fine when it's once in a while
It stops you from smoking and brightens your smile
But it's repulsive, revolting, and wrong
Chewing and chewing all day long

The way that a cow does

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
Given good manners, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

Who do you blame when your kid is a brat?
Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame
You know exactly who's to blame

The mother and the father

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not spoiled, then you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

What do you get from a glut of TV?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply reading a book?
Or can you just not bear to look?

You'll get no...you'll get no...you'll get no commercials

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
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Old 2005-06-15, 04:51 PM   #10
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ooops sorry Stuveltje:

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have a perfect puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

What do you get when you guzzle down sweets?
Eating as much as an elephant eats
What are you at getting terribly fat?
What do you think will come of that?

I don't like the look of it

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

Gum chewing's fine when it's once in a while
It stops you from smoking and brightens your smile
But it's repulsive, revolting, and wrong
Chewing and chewing all day long

The way that a cow does

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
Given good manners, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

Who do you blame when your kid is a brat?
Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat
Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame
You know exactly who's to blame

The mother and the father

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not spoiled, then you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me

What do you get from a glut of TV?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply reading a book?
Or can you just not bear to look?

You'll get no...you'll get no...you'll get no commercials

Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-da
If you're not greedy, you will go far
You will live in happiness too
Like the Oompa Loompa doom-pa-dee-do
hhahahahahahah thats great thanks linkster i love this, lol you dont know how much times i have seen that movie, yeah yeah i am still a bit a kid, i love all those kind of kids movies, lol me printing this i am realy choking from laughter now this is great, see how easy you can make me happy Stu<--- big kid
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Old 2005-06-16, 07:47 AM   #11
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If you make the content of one of the free sites target the phrase Pope Stuffs Buttplug - then the pics would be pope-stuffs-buttplug1.jpg etc
The next site would target Buttplugged Gangbang Pope and the pics would be named buttplugged-gangbang-pope1.jpg and so on - the directories I usually name one of the least frequently searched terms to ensure I come up for that
thats pretty easy to do - took less than 5 mins using a rename program and search and replace in dreamweaver. God bless the pope and his buttplug |king|

Cheers for the info and umpa lumpa song!
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Old 2005-06-16, 11:49 AM   #12
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