Sales Question for all

buttster · 2005-03-20, 04:45 PM

just wondering who makes more sales off their submissions than off their link list or tgp sponsor links. I read once on here somewhere that a some people make a good living at just building and submitting free sites.

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 04:53 PM

here here, i make more money from my free sites then linksites but then i have sold all my linksites

buttster · 2005-03-20, 04:56 PM

maybe its just me, i submit big tits, amateurs, bbw and mature free sites
and I have yet to see any of my 100+ free sites generate enough to pay for anything.

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:00 PM

i make every niche there is i have more then 1000+ free sites so yes its a huge different with 100+ so there will be th difference if it pays off or not, but dont give up keep builing

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:03 PM

thats all i can do
was wondering if its better to build a big tits site and submit to 15 LL and build a mature site and submit to 15 LL and so on and so on versus submitting one site to 100 link lists

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttster

thats all i can do
was wondering if its better to build a big tits site and submit to 15 LL and build a mature site and submit to 15 LL and so on and so on versus submitting one site to 100 link lists

when i started bizz i submitted to 80 linksites now i dont do anymore, just try to build one site a day and submit it to the linksites you want and try to use as many niches you can , and keep in mind the templates, dont use the same templates everytime, keep your eye on the sponsors you use, if the ratio is bad, change the sponsor to an other sponsor in the same niche

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:13 PM

in meantime build some hubs, use ready stuff from sponsors link from your free sites, there is so much you can do in bizz.

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:14 PM

I use all scoreland content, i wonder if that might be hurting me
its great content but with free hosted gallerys used by everyone i wonder if that could be one of the probs

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:15 PM

that could be the problem yes, buying content is better and believe me content isnt expensieve, if you dont have the money pick out sponsors with alot of free content.or email your sponsors for some special content you can always ask

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:19 PM

damn its hard to find good big tits content, i go to look at all the providers and they got crap for big tits. and most of the content i see for sell is being used big time by others also. and what a lot of providers call big tits is a c cup.
lol

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttster

damn its hard to find good big tits content, i go to look at all the providers and they got crap for big tits. and most of the content i see for sell is being used big time by others also. and what a lot of providers call big tits is a c cup.
lol

wel maybe time to pick an other niche

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:23 PM

i have noticed on all the link lists that supply sponsor stats like GG and hoes that big tits is never up high on their top sellers, that could be another problem. More surfers looking for hardcore and other niches versus big boobs

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:26 PM

well i dont think hardcore, but yes others niches is the case...alot is around now

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:26 PM

maybe big tits in pantyhose?

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:29 PM

Man i love gg and J, no other webmaster forum on the net teaches like this place
go to the other boards and get humiliated over every little question
thanx much

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttster

Man i love gg and J, no other webmaster forum on the net teaches like this place
go to the other boards and get humiliated over every little question
thanx much

other boards sucks

buttster · 2005-03-20, 05:31 PM

just in your own opinion do you see anything wrong with this type of free site
http://nudeworld.net/naughty-neighbors/005/index.htm

ronnie · 2005-03-20, 05:34 PM

When I first started, made great money off avs sites, but those days are about gone. Not as good as they use to be at least. I never did get too heavy into free sites, did'nt see alot of sales from it.

In the long run, I've always made better money with my links lists. Just my experience.

ronnie

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:36 PM

your site looks good, you only have the same alt tag txt on your banners use, keywords in your niche, different for every banner, also for the thumbs, use keywords related to the niche, your also missing some metatags in your <head></head> section but what i mention now is pure for search engines

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie

When I first started, made great money off avs sites, but those days are about gone. Not as good as they use to be at least. I never did get too heavy into free sites, did'nt see alot of sales from it.

In the long run, I've always made better money with my links lists. Just my experience.

ronnie

oh i agree, i always sucked at avs sites so i did what i was good at free sites, linksites and other projects i sold my linksites and i make now new one, maybe i sell them i dont know, it depends on what i am thinking at that moment....i am just choatic

Greenguy · 2005-03-20, 05:51 PM

You two want a room?

stuveltje · 2005-03-20, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greenguy

You two want a room?

oke you want me to slap you GG

and where where you heeyyyyyy

ronnie · 2005-03-20, 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuveltje

oh i agree, i always sucked at avs sites so i did what i was good at free sites, linksites and other projects i sold my linksites and i make now new one, maybe i sell them i dont know, it depends on what i am thinking at that moment....i am just choatic

If your good at it and it works, thats all that counts...

Buttster, seems with that many sites you should be making some money. Do your sites get listed? Do you get traffic from them? Couple things I noticed on the site you gave, if it is similar to what your make, is the ads.

First off, do you know if these ads pull? Do you track your ads? Honestly they dont look very exciting to me, nothing really to get me to want to click. And seems like I only saw two different ads? Use as many different ones as you can, as one might pull, another might not. All I see you really pushing is trial membership, which I would'nt even say, just me. You need to get them excited, give them a boner so they want to click on your ads to get more. Also, I try my best to never use banners that have the sponsors url on them. The surfer could just type in the sponsor url and bypass you.

Banners dont pull crap nowdays, have'nt for some time. Your extra text needs to do the selling, getting more surfers to click. Or try different size or odd shape banners.

Just a few thoughts..

ronnie

Lunatic · 2005-03-20, 06:27 PM

Scoreland is one of the best paysites out there. Because of that they're heavily promoted and their content is used quite a bit. Maybe another high quality but lesser known big tit sponsor would help? Other niches do convert better though, especially the smaller niches.

buttster · 2005-03-20, 06:45 PM

I try not to use to much of a story telling blind link because to many sponsors will delete you if you are not right on with descrip. I could use for example:
Click here to watch this hot busty chick get nailed in the behind for the first time!!
but if its not true u are asking for a chargebak or worse to get acct cancelled
am i right or am i wrong

2005-03-20, 04:45 PM	#1
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	Sales Question for all just wondering who makes more sales off their submissions than off their link list or tgp sponsor links. I read once on here somewhere that a some people make a good living at just building and submitting free sites. __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 04:53 PM	#2
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	here here, i make more money from my free sites then linksites but then i have sold all my linksites __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 04:56 PM	#3
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	maybe its just me, i submit big tits, amateurs, bbw and mature free sites and I have yet to see any of my 100+ free sites generate enough to pay for anything. __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:00 PM	#4
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	i make every niche there is i have more then 1000+ free sites so yes its a huge different with 100+ so there will be th difference if it pays off or not, but dont give up keep builing __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:03 PM	#5
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	thats all i can do was wondering if its better to build a big tits site and submit to 15 LL and build a mature site and submit to 15 LL and so on and so on versus submitting one site to 100 link lists __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:13 PM	#7
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	in meantime build some hubs, use ready stuff from sponsors link from your free sites, there is so much you can do in bizz. __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:14 PM	#8
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	I use all scoreland content, i wonder if that might be hurting me its great content but with free hosted gallerys used by everyone i wonder if that could be one of the probs __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:15 PM	#9
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	that could be the problem yes, buying content is better and believe me content isnt expensieve, if you dont have the money pick out sponsors with alot of free content.or email your sponsors for some special content you can always ask __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:19 PM	#10
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	damn its hard to find good big tits content, i go to look at all the providers and they got crap for big tits. and most of the content i see for sell is being used big time by others also. and what a lot of providers call big tits is a c cup. lol __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:23 PM	#12
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	i have noticed on all the link lists that supply sponsor stats like GG and hoes that big tits is never up high on their top sellers, that could be another problem. More surfers looking for hardcore and other niches versus big boobs __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:26 PM	#13
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	well i dont think hardcore, but yes others niches is the case...alot is around now __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:26 PM	#14
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	maybe big tits in pantyhose? __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:29 PM	#15
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	Man i love gg and J, no other webmaster forum on the net teaches like this place go to the other boards and get humiliated over every little question thanx much __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:31 PM	#17
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	just in your own opinion do you see anything wrong with this type of free site http://nudeworld.net/naughty-neighbors/005/index.htm __________________ The Tit Directory

2005-03-20, 05:34 PM	#18
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	When I first started, made great money off avs sites, but those days are about gone. Not as good as they use to be at least. I never did get too heavy into free sites, did'nt see alot of sales from it. In the long run, I've always made better money with my links lists. Just my experience. ronnie

2005-03-20, 05:36 PM	#19
stuveltje Live and learn. And take very careful notes! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Sunny Holland Posts: 6,157	your site looks good, you only have the same alt tag txt on your banners use, keywords in your niche, different for every banner, also for the thumbs, use keywords related to the niche, your also missing some metatags in your <head></head> section but what i mention now is pure for search engines __________________ Canadian Sexlinks - submit Erotica search -submit

2005-03-20, 05:51 PM	#21
Greenguy The Original Greenguy (Est'd 1996) & AVN HOF Member - I Crop Pics For Thumbs In My Sleep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Blasdell, NY (shithole suburb south of Buffalo) Posts: 41,929	You two want a room? __________________ Promote POV Porn Cash By Building & Submitting Galleries to the Porn Luv Network

2005-03-20, 06:27 PM	#24
Lunatic Ahhh ... sweet pity. Where would my love life be without it? Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 200	Scoreland is one of the best paysites out there. Because of that they're heavily promoted and their content is used quite a bit. Maybe another high quality but lesser known big tit sponsor would help? Other niches do convert better though, especially the smaller niches. __________________

2005-03-20, 06:45 PM	#25
buttster Hey, can you take the wheel for a second, I have to scratch my self in two places at once Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Central California Valley Posts: 181	I try not to use to much of a story telling blind link because to many sponsors will delete you if you are not right on with descrip. I could use for example: Click here to watch this hot busty chick get nailed in the behind for the first time!! but if its not true u are asking for a chargebak or worse to get acct cancelled am i right or am i wrong __________________ The Tit Directory