Downing Street Memo

Torn Rose · 2005-06-07, 11:26 PM

Anyone else been reading this? I been told it was big news in the UK (Urb? Anyone in the UK?) But its amazes me that NO ONE in the US is talking about it. If lying over a Blowjob can get you impeached what would lying to start a war do?

Liberal media? HA…. If they was so Liberal why isn’t this be 24/7 news coverage?

But the really scary part… if they go after Bush, they go after Cheney… which means Delay….. No fucking winning here… unless Delay was also busted, but god is on his side.

Jel · 2005-06-08, 01:21 AM

Hmm, haven't heard about this Torn I don't think... got a link to some more info at all?

Toby · 2005-06-08, 01:46 AM

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...593607,00.html

Torn Rose · 2005-06-08, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn

But the really scary part… if they go after Bush, they go after Cheney… which means Delay….. No fucking winning here… unless Delay was also busted, but god is on his side.

MY BAD... I been seeing Delay so much on the news I forgot he is not the Speaker of the House and therefore not the 3rd man in line.

Dennis Hastert is the Speaker of the House.

Not like it would ever happen since god loves the gop only, but if there ever was a case for impeachment and charges of crimes, it would be this.

Torn Rose · 2005-06-10, 10:04 PM

http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetruth/

Tell the Truth about Iraq

Last month the Times of London published a “smoking gun” memo on President Bush’s lies leading up to the Iraq war. Six months before the invasion the administration admitted to British officials that, contrary to what the American public was told, the White House was determined to go to war and was “fixing” intelligence on WMDs to justify the move.
Bush has refused to address the evidence in the "Downing Street Memo," but pressure is building from the people and the press. Representative John Conyers has launched a citizens petition to demand answers. When we reach 500,000 signers Rep. Conyers will personally deliver your comments to the gates of the White House. Help get out the truth – please sign today.

Click here for the full text of Rep. Conyers's letter.

http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetrut...ersletter.html

juggernaut · 2005-06-10, 11:07 PM

Ok well my opinons on this very not to much but on this whole Iraq thing. For me it's personnal, why? Cause I have friends their. Not people I just saw time and then but people I sat and ate with on a daily basis. If people were to sit back and just remember some of the things that took place before hand. There out view on this might be a little differant. I'm not saying anyone here is for or against the war. These are my personnal thoughts as to being inside before this administration and during. Ok well during the Clinton administration fact is people in the government had ok lives. They complained about work enviroments but fact is they were not that bad. Just the chemicals laying around some of the buildings were not that nice. People would complain about having to sit in a chair that was 4 years old or a cube that was 10. Big deal. Ok now we get a new boss. What happens? Hum well 1st thing everyone starts getting new shit. I mean seriously I had a 6k laptop 1 month after the man was in office and to this day would place that bad boy up against any new ones on the market. Ok we also start getting new furniture and new offices, money for offices money for new cars. money money every where. I admit I spent it. And so would you if you were in my place. Its just how it was to work their. Shit your boss tells you Hey spend this million. What would you do? Tell him no? You spend it of course. Think about any software or hardware you ever wanted now being placed with in your means. All you had to do was justify it. And when the boss has no idea about computers who hard is that to do.
Anyway Bush gets in office. With in the first year he says he is giving like 4 billion to the big 3 car manufactures to lead the way in hybid cars. He stated he wanted the USA to be #1 in the next 10 years for such a car. Ok well thats nice. I dont mean great for the USA I just mean nice idea to get rid of the oil sucking cars is good for the whole world. OK then 6 months later I'm at my desk and two planes hit two buildings and all hell breaks loose. We send in SF to Afganistan 3 weeks after the guilty has already left. Then we tople that government. Ok then we move on to Iraq. I agree something more should have been done about Sadam not complying with UN sanctions. But I think it should have been done differant. Hell the USA gives 80% of the funding to the UN. I say cut off the funding and work from their to get people to screw him but no. We go in guns blazing and tople that government. Funny thing. Now soldiers talk about driving trucks with big ass pipes in them to locations that have not 1 ounce of war damage to them. They talk about construction taking place right during the very war. I dont know about you guys but my training was to never rebuild a country until you have totally taken out its forces. Or they will just destroy what you have built. So now we have soldiers talking about some big pipe. As it turns out Bush has a hand in some money dealing with that pipe. Alot of money. Remember the gas prices 1 year before the war? $1.20 a gallon. Everyone freaked. Then they got used to it 1 month later. Then the gas just keeps going up and up. Times seem ok now in the USA. Low rates, moneys not that bad. Jobs are up. Fact is war makes the economy look good. Cause the war cost so much. So compairing anything to the cost of war will make it look good. Now the gas just keeps going up and up. My personnal reasons is due to the politcal hands in the oil cookie jar getting the last amount of cash out of a public before oil cars are the way of the do do bird, (it wont take too long before that year 2000 car is old as the hills and considered a gas guzzler. Oh one last thing on a long ass post the oil truly is funding a war. If you think this was not thought out years in advance your just not really looking into the past. Sorry for the eye bleeding post. Jugg

terry · 2005-06-11, 08:59 AM

Interesting post Torn, and once I got through Jugg's reply

it really makes you think. Even though I am in Canada I am still affected in many ways by all of this. Gas and oil prices have sky rocketed here for example. I have spoken to some Americans who are not too happy with Canadians for not joining in on the war, etc etc. Anyway enough from me... Have a look at the Tell the truth about Iraq page, http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetruth/. They have already reached 95% of their goal. if you havent added your name, now is a good time to do it.

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2005-06-11, 08:59 AM	#7
terry You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 5,883	Interesting post Torn, and once I got through Jugg's reply it really makes you think. Even though I am in Canada I am still affected in many ways by all of this. Gas and oil prices have sky rocketed here for example. I have spoken to some Americans who are not too happy with Canadians for not joining in on the war, etc etc. Anyway enough from me... Have a look at the Tell the truth about Iraq page, http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetruth/. They have already reached 95% of their goal. if you havent added your name, now is a good time to do it. __________________ Stop That 9 To 5 Go Green Grocery Store

2005-06-07, 11:26 PM	#1
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Downing Street Memo Anyone else been reading this? I been told it was big news in the UK (Urb? Anyone in the UK?) But its amazes me that NO ONE in the US is talking about it. If lying over a Blowjob can get you impeached what would lying to start a war do? Liberal media? HA…. If they was so Liberal why isn’t this be 24/7 news coverage? But the really scary part… if they go after Bush, they go after Cheney… which means Delay….. No fucking winning here… unless Delay was also busted, but god is on his side.

2005-06-08, 01:21 AM	#2
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Hmm, haven't heard about this Torn I don't think... got a link to some more info at all?

2005-06-10, 10:04 PM	#5
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetruth/ Tell the Truth about Iraq Last month the Times of London published a “smoking gun” memo on President Bush’s lies leading up to the Iraq war. Six months before the invasion the administration admitted to British officials that, contrary to what the American public was told, the White House was determined to go to war and was “fixing” intelligence on WMDs to justify the move. Bush has refused to address the evidence in the "Downing Street Memo," but pressure is building from the people and the press. Representative John Conyers has launched a citizens petition to demand answers. When we reach 500,000 signers Rep. Conyers will personally deliver your comments to the gates of the White House. Help get out the truth – please sign today. Click here for the full text of Rep. Conyers's letter. http://www.moveonpac.org/tellthetrut...ersletter.html

2005-06-10, 11:07 PM	#6
juggernaut Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Jersey! If I was rich and powerful I would dress as my avatar does. Posts: 1,448	Ok well my opinons on this very not to much but on this whole Iraq thing. For me it's personnal, why? Cause I have friends their. Not people I just saw time and then but people I sat and ate with on a daily basis. If people were to sit back and just remember some of the things that took place before hand. There out view on this might be a little differant. I'm not saying anyone here is for or against the war. These are my personnal thoughts as to being inside before this administration and during. Ok well during the Clinton administration fact is people in the government had ok lives. They complained about work enviroments but fact is they were not that bad. Just the chemicals laying around some of the buildings were not that nice. People would complain about having to sit in a chair that was 4 years old or a cube that was 10. Big deal. Ok now we get a new boss. What happens? Hum well 1st thing everyone starts getting new shit. I mean seriously I had a 6k laptop 1 month after the man was in office and to this day would place that bad boy up against any new ones on the market. Ok we also start getting new furniture and new offices, money for offices money for new cars. money money every where. I admit I spent it. And so would you if you were in my place. Its just how it was to work their. Shit your boss tells you Hey spend this million. What would you do? Tell him no? You spend it of course. Think about any software or hardware you ever wanted now being placed with in your means. All you had to do was justify it. And when the boss has no idea about computers who hard is that to do. Anyway Bush gets in office. With in the first year he says he is giving like 4 billion to the big 3 car manufactures to lead the way in hybid cars. He stated he wanted the USA to be #1 in the next 10 years for such a car. Ok well thats nice. I dont mean great for the USA I just mean nice idea to get rid of the oil sucking cars is good for the whole world. OK then 6 months later I'm at my desk and two planes hit two buildings and all hell breaks loose. We send in SF to Afganistan 3 weeks after the guilty has already left. Then we tople that government. Ok then we move on to Iraq. I agree something more should have been done about Sadam not complying with UN sanctions. But I think it should have been done differant. Hell the USA gives 80% of the funding to the UN. I say cut off the funding and work from their to get people to screw him but no. We go in guns blazing and tople that government. Funny thing. Now soldiers talk about driving trucks with big ass pipes in them to locations that have not 1 ounce of war damage to them. They talk about construction taking place right during the very war. I dont know about you guys but my training was to never rebuild a country until you have totally taken out its forces. Or they will just destroy what you have built. So now we have soldiers talking about some big pipe. As it turns out Bush has a hand in some money dealing with that pipe. Alot of money. Remember the gas prices 1 year before the war? $1.20 a gallon. Everyone freaked. Then they got used to it 1 month later. Then the gas just keeps going up and up. Times seem ok now in the USA. Low rates, moneys not that bad. Jobs are up. Fact is war makes the economy look good. Cause the war cost so much. So compairing anything to the cost of war will make it look good. Now the gas just keeps going up and up. My personnal reasons is due to the politcal hands in the oil cookie jar getting the last amount of cash out of a public before oil cars are the way of the do do bird, (it wont take too long before that year 2000 car is old as the hills and considered a gas guzzler. Oh one last thing on a long ass post the oil truly is funding a war. If you think this was not thought out years in advance your just not really looking into the past. Sorry for the eye bleeding post. Jugg