Cascading billing Solutions. Opinions wanted.

Dr Bizzaro · 2005-09-29, 02:06 PM

Out the ones listed below, anyone have any input or opinions on them?
Pros and cons?
Which ones do you use and why?
If you had to pick 3, what would they be and in what order?

CCBill
Epoch
Jettis
ACH Debit
NoCreditCard
123Bill
InterTrans
2000Charge
NetBilling
Universal Processing
Global Exchange Billing
Funds2Go
E Processing Network
ChargeMeLater

Cleo · 2005-09-29, 02:12 PM

Not doing true cascading but thanks to a little bit of script wizardry from Sparky we now have both CCBill and Epoch on FoxyAngel's join pages with credit be given for all sales. It's working out well, don't really know anything about using the other processors.

SirMoby · 2005-09-29, 03:07 PM

The top 3 on your list are being used at NS Cash and that seems to work out well. Epoch is very picky about site design and layout. They denied a site because I had "USC" instead of "U.S.C." of course that's easily fixed.

Ramster · 2005-09-29, 03:27 PM

The top 3 are good ones. I've heard good things about Net Billing.

The only other thing to consider is Euro billing somehow integrated to pay on dialers for those "other" countries.

emmanuelle · 2005-09-29, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Not doing true cascading but thanks to a little bit of script wizardry from Sparky we now have both CCBill and Epoch on FoxyAngel's join pages with credit be given for all sales. It's working out well, don't really know anything about using the other processors.

I'd be interested in learning more about this. I'm still not sold on Nats, and am seeking an alternative

emmanuelle · 2005-09-29, 07:04 PM

CCBill -reliable, intuitive and efficient

Epoch -anal, useless, not well organized

Jettis -generally used as a backend of a merchant account I believe

ACH Debit- returns?

123Bill- good experience here. surfers seem to jump on higher priced options

NetBilling- gateway for merchant account

Funds2Go- my virtual card

nekrom · 2005-09-30, 12:41 AM

From the list of options:
Epoch, CCbill and ACH Debit.

From my own list:
Epoch, Vxsbill (own ma) and Verotel.

-N

WTS - Ben · 2005-09-30, 10:35 AM

Hello DrBizzaro.

Ben Z. with WTS-Bank (ACH Debit) here.

A couple things to keep in mind when choosing your ACH processor. We only charge our processing rates on the net, not gross. So you're only paying processing fees on collected monies (giving us vested interest to make our clients bottom line as large as possible). There are no other fee's! Likely why we process for the majority of the largest programs on the Audlt'Net! ;-)))

Our solution is complete with username/password management, cross-sales, membership upgrades, loyalty offerings, in-house collections and the best merchant support in the industry as well.

Drop me a line if you have any questions about our services. I hope to hear from you soon!

Kind Regards,
Ben Zuckerman

Sales Manager
Web Transaction Services
Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168
ICQ: 138827832

Cleo · 2005-09-30, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

I'd be interested in learning more about this. I'm still not sold on Nats, and am seeking an alternative

Basically it is just a simple php script that sends the traffic first through CCBill using their link code with a redirect to Paycom and then Paycom sending its traffic back to FoxyAngel.

You could do the same thing by by using this really long URL which is CCBill's code and Paycoms code strung together,
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...nsgender/tour/

But using the script that url becomes,
http://foxyangel.com/transgender/Cleo/

Paycom's admin and just about everything else about their site IMO sucks but sales through them are good.

romeoboi · 2005-09-30, 11:51 AM

when you say cascading billing solutions - wouldnt that mean software scripts like NATS or MPA3. arent you just discussing different IPSPs?

Dr Bizzaro · 2005-09-30, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

when you say cascading billing solutions - wouldnt that mean software scripts like NATS or MPA3. arent you just discussing different IPSPs?

Yeah, I guess I should have phrased that better. I am looking for information on who to use for the cascading. Not the solution of doing the cascading. I've got that covered.

emmanuelle · 2005-09-30, 02:02 PM

Interesting, thanks. Do your affiliates then need to sign up through both billing companies?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Basically it is just a simple php script that sends the traffic first through CCBill using their link code with a redirect to Paycom and then Paycom sending its traffic back to FoxyAngel.

You could do the same thing by by using this really long URL which is CCBill's code and Paycoms code strung together,
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...nsgender/tour/

But using the script that url becomes,
http://foxyangel.com/transgender/Cleo/

Paycom's admin and just about everything else about their site IMO sucks but sales through them are good.

Cleo · 2005-09-30, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emmanuelle

Interesting, thanks. Do your affiliates then need to sign up through both billing companies?

Yes and that is also where they check their stats. It does allow affiliates to choose which tour and what page on the tours that they wish to send traffic to but that is about it.

I'm not a big fan of Nats. If and when we decide to get affiliate software I want to look at this solution.
http://aacsp.com/

At least since we are not using CCBill's or Paycom's link codes we won't have to force anyone to use new link codes if we do go with another solution.

Kenny B! · 2005-09-30, 03:50 PM

You can check out MyVirtualCard we've tested them and they are pretty good.

edit- I didn't realize funds2go was the same as MVC sorry:-)

romeoboi · 2005-10-03, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Bizzaro

Yeah, I guess I should have phrased that better. I am looking for information on who to use for the cascading. Not the solution of doing the cascading. I've got that covered.

which solution are you using? NATS? MPA3?

I dont run an affiliate program and I know Mpa2 had a bad rep, but mpa3 with the combonation of their members area script looks pretty hot!

Desperate Andy · 2005-10-03, 09:20 AM

I advise to use achdebit for checks processing. WTS-Ben is a great guy and always ready to help. This option is more reliable than using standard pay by check option of usual CC processor.

Dr Bizzaro · 2005-10-03, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by romeoboi

which solution are you using? NATS? MPA3?

I dont run an affiliate program and I know Mpa2 had a bad rep, but mpa3 with the combonation of their members area script looks pretty hot!

We are going to use MPA3.

Dr Bizzaro · 2005-10-03, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Desperate Andy

I advise to use achdebit for checks processing. WTS-Ben is a great guy and always ready to help. This option is more reliable than using standard pay by check option of usual CC processor.

Yes, I have spoke with Ben on the phone. I believe we are going to use them as well.

LB · 2005-10-03, 06:20 PM

CCBill - For cascading no. Scrub it far too high. Running it through a cascade you are losing ccbill's main benefit which is the attraction of small and medium sized affiliates.

Epoch - Yes very good, but their system can be hard to navigate and work out.

Jettis - Worth including aswell

NetBilling - Since they are a merchant account it really lessens the need for a cascade, but definitely worth including as your primary.

2005-09-29, 02:06 PM	#1
Dr Bizzaro I'm not interested in the facts, I'm interested in my opinion. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,620	Cascading billing Solutions. Opinions wanted. Out the ones listed below, anyone have any input or opinions on them? Pros and cons? Which ones do you use and why? If you had to pick 3, what would they be and in what order? CCBill Epoch Jettis ACH Debit NoCreditCard 123Bill InterTrans 2000Charge NetBilling Universal Processing Global Exchange Billing Funds2Go E Processing Network ChargeMeLater __________________ -DrBizzaro Make BIG $ selling text links! Sell Links and get $$

2005-09-29, 02:12 PM	#2
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2005-09-30, 12:41 AM	#7
nekrom Are you sure this is the Sci-Fi Convention? It's full of nerds! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 263	From the list of options: Epoch, CCbill and ACH Debit. From my own list: Epoch, Vxsbill (own ma) and Verotel. -N __________________ The afp ownz all your base.

2005-09-30, 10:35 AM	#8
WTS - Ben WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: ACHdebit.com Posts: 40	Hello DrBizzaro. Ben Z. with WTS-Bank (ACH Debit) here. A couple things to keep in mind when choosing your ACH processor. We only charge our processing rates on the net, not gross. So you're only paying processing fees on collected monies (giving us vested interest to make our clients bottom line as large as possible). There are no other fee's! Likely why we process for the majority of the largest programs on the Audlt'Net! ;-))) Our solution is complete with username/password management, cross-sales, membership upgrades, loyalty offerings, in-house collections and the best merchant support in the industry as well. Drop me a line if you have any questions about our services. I hope to hear from you soon! Kind Regards, Ben Zuckerman Sales Manager Web Transaction Services Toll Free: 1(866)735-5987 ext.1168 ICQ: 138827832 __________________ ICQ_138827832

2005-09-29, 03:07 PM	#3
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	The top 3 on your list are being used at NS Cash and that seems to work out well. Epoch is very picky about site design and layout. They denied a site because I had "USC" instead of "U.S.C." of course that's easily fixed.

2005-09-29, 07:04 PM	#6
emmanuelle 0100011101100101011001010 1101011001000000100001101 1010000110100101100011 Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,441	CCBill -reliable, intuitive and efficient Epoch -anal, useless, not well organized Jettis -generally used as a backend of a merchant account I believe ACH Debit- returns? 123Bill- good experience here. surfers seem to jump on higher priced options NetBilling- gateway for merchant account Funds2Go- my virtual card

2005-09-30, 11:51 AM	#10
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2005-09-30, 03:50 PM	#14
Kenny B! I'm normally not a praying man, but if you're up there, please save me Superman! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Montreal Posts: 472	You can check out MyVirtualCard we've tested them and they are pretty good. edit- I didn't realize funds2go was the same as MVC sorry:-) __________________ ken@iacash.com icq: 53962376

2005-10-03, 09:20 AM	#16
Desperate Andy Internet! Is that thing still around? Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7	I advise to use achdebit for checks processing. WTS-Ben is a great guy and always ready to help. This option is more reliable than using standard pay by check option of usual CC processor. __________________ Serious Coin Partnership: 22 exclusive niche sites. Status Cash : 2 fresh teen sites.

2005-10-03, 06:20 PM	#19
LB I want to set the record straight - I thought the cop was a prostitute Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 291	CCBill - For cascading no. Scrub it far too high. Running it through a cascade you are losing ccbill's main benefit which is the attraction of small and medium sized affiliates. Epoch - Yes very good, but their system can be hard to navigate and work out. Jettis - Worth including aswell NetBilling - Since they are a merchant account it really lessens the need for a cascade, but definitely worth including as your primary. __________________ IW skype blance8888 icq 15567120