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Old 2007-07-11, 07:06 PM   #1
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FSC says new 2257 regulations to be released tomorrow by feds

This is so new, it's not even on their website yet.

And that's all I've heard - they sent out some kind of email notice, just this subject line:

"Member Advisory - 2257 Rules and Regulations to be Released Thursday, July 12, 2007"

So, tomorrow could be a rough day.
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Old 2007-07-11, 09:32 PM   #2
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A bit more, from a second email.

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Contact: Jeffrey Douglas, Esq.
July 11, 2007 310-804-4971, or
Diane Duke, 818-304-1712


2257: Rules and Regulations to be Released Thursday, July 12th

Canoga Park, CA – The Free Speech Coalition announced today that, according to the Federal Register website, some of the rules and regulations associated with 2257 will be released by the Government on Thursday, July 12th.

Jeffrey Douglas, Free Speech Coalition Board Chair, and Reed Lee, FSC Legal Committee Chair and President of the First Amendment Lawyers Association, will discuss initial analysis of the regulations at the XBIZ Summer Forum 2257 Seminar, being held in Las Vegas this week, at 11:00am Thursday.

FSC will communicate initial analysis of the Regulations as soon as they are released to our membership and the industry.

FSC will continue to provide regular updates on the status of 2257 as the case unfolds through our weekly X-PRESS newsletter, e-mail advisories to our members, and posts to our website,” said Diane Duke, FSC Executive Director. “We are committed to providing accurate, up-to-date information to our members and the industry.”

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Old 2007-07-12, 09:12 AM   #3
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Old 2007-07-12, 09:43 AM   #4
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Looks to be just another end-around by Gonzales - I would imagine that since it is a proposed ruling and is not law (yet - comments due by Sept 10th) - that someone will just be filing another or adding to the injunction as it goes against exactly what the judge said in his last ruling
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Old 2007-07-12, 12:08 PM   #5
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Just casually glancing through the http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7/E7-13500.htm document:

It looks like their are some industry specific exclusions.
- Internet information location tool(can you say Google/Yahoo)

Not sure if this pulls the seconday producers back out again, or not.
2257(h)(2)(A) - Excludes from the definition of "produces".
(iii) - Any activity, other than those activities identified in subparagraph (A), that does not involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the
depicted performers.
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Old 2007-07-12, 12:28 PM   #6
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This was announced during my seminar yesterday at XBiz

The 2257 seminar is in 90 min - I'll try to take notes, but let's remember that this board is not exactly the place to look for solid legal advice
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Old 2007-07-12, 03:57 PM   #7
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Just casually glancing through the http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2...7/E7-13500.htm document:

It looks like their are some industry specific exclusions.
- Internet information location tool(can you say Google/Yahoo)

Not sure if this pulls the seconday producers back out again, or not.
2257(h)(2)(A) - Excludes from the definition of "produces".
(iii) - Any activity, other than those activities identified in subparagraph (A), that does not involve the hiring, contracting for, managing, or otherwise arranging for the participation of the
depicted performers.
Here's the subparagraph (A) the regulations are referencing.
(2) the term ‘produces’—
(A) means—
(i) actually filming, videotaping, photographing, creating a picture, digital image, or digitally- or computer- manipulated image of an actual human being;

(ii) digitizing an image, of a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or, assembling, manufacturing, publishing, duplicating, reproducing, or reissuing a book, magazine, periodical, film, videotape, digital image, or picture, or other matter intended for commercial distribution, that contains a visual depiction of sexually explicit conduct; or

(iii) inserting on a computer site or service a digital image of, or otherwise managing the sexually explicit content, of a computer site or service that contains a visual depiction of, sexually explicit conduct;
I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure (ii) & (iii) covers what were proviously known as secondary producers.
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Old 2007-07-12, 05:53 PM   #8
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...I'm no lawyer, but I'm pretty sure (ii) & (iii) covers what were proviously known as secondary producers.
I actually missed the seminar (saw some old friends) but from what I heard yesterday, that was going to be the gist of it.
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Old 2007-07-12, 10:17 PM   #9
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FSC Member Advisory from Diane Duke re: 2257

The most recent email - the FSC says it's getting ready for the secondary producer fight:

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Dear FSC Member:

This is an update on the newly-released rules and regulations related to 2257. We will provide you with more information as it becomes available.

First, it is important to recognize that the regulations that the DOJ has set forth today are simply proposed regulations, issued for comment and possible change.

FSC will extensively comment on the regulations, and we intend to launch an industry-wide campaign to solicit your comments as well. We need your participation in this process. In the coming days we will provide details on how to comment.

Some of the points set forth were expected, and they represent the modest gains that we have achieved through litigation thus far. Some of the other points are troubling and represent the intransigence which we have come to expect from Attorney General Gonzales and his associates.

On the critical subject of secondary producers, the Justice Department is continuing to suggest that it has been right all along and that Congress ALWAYS intended secondary producer to be included in 2257. Therefore, they are considering the original legislation and regulations issued in 1995 to be valid for secondary as well as primary producers. We understand that for many of you it is simply impossible to comply with the Justice departments demands, and that is one of the reasons why we will continue the fight.

Unless the final regulations change radically from those proposed today, FSC will continue our litigation at the appropriate place and time, including seeking another injunction for secondary producers as well as others.

At the end day, we will make sure that federal judges understand the absurdity of these regulations, and we will not let up on our commitment to you and to your rights.


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Old 2007-07-13, 05:56 PM   #10
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Here's a look at it from J.D. Obenberger
http://avnonline.com/index_cache.php...tent_ID=291867
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Old 2007-07-16, 08:54 AM   #11
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I predict 'coyness' will become an industry buzzword this year.
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