New Link O'Rama Rules

[Greenguy]

I added 2 new rules to the Link O'Rama today.

23. Your site has to look decent at 800x600 - if I have to scroll to the right to see the entire page or things just look "off", it will be declined.

24. No sites with 3rd party counters will be listed. Get some stats on your server. (edited 07-26-04 - seethis post )

#23 is common sense & is actually put in place to benefit you as well as me. No one likes to look at shitty sites.

#24 is, well, a sign of the times

Now, with the no counter rule - we will be going thru sites starting on July 19th (over 3 weeks from now) & sites that are currently listed & have counters will be pulled at that time.

[Surfn]

I wish I could submit

[Alphawolf]

Who has the most number of rules of any of the well known LL's?

BTW, linkorama is showing as a PR5 on my toolbar just now, whereas many other sites have gone up in PR. Hmm.

A result of those adult sites manually PR0'd by Google?

Caught the thread about PR updates on WebmasterWorld.

My primary domain went from PR4 to PR5 with no recips.

[Cleo]

Rule number 23 has been my rule also for a very long time.

I stopped using counters a long time ago. Most TGPs have had them banned for a long time. Basically it comes down to the fact that you are letting someone else execute on your pages.

I'm in on the no counter rule. I've been thinking of doing this for a long time anyway.

[Surfn]

I believe GG read my post in the counter thread which stated that my few sites taking public submits will have counters banned by September.

[Greenguy]

Actually, my LOR's index page went from a 6 to a 5 last June as well - but then it was a 7 for most of July

I'm not too worried about it - PR updates usually take a week or so before things are final.

[f69j69b]

Hi Greenguy

I use a script to get my stats on my free sites. Its not a counter nothing shows on my sites. My question is would this be banned by your rule #24

Fred

[Useless]

Originally posted by f69j69b
Hi Greenguy

I use a script to get my stats on my free sites. Its not a counter nothing shows on my sites. My question is would this be banned by your rule #24

Fred

I do the same the thing. I have a hidden java script on each free site's index that does much of what sex tracker does (hits, uniques, referrers, browsers) and everything is generated at my site, not somewhere else. I'd have to assume that this too will be banned since it would be a monsterous pain in the balls for reviewers to determine the difference just by seeing the code. I don't blame them with the recent bullshit being pulled out there. It's nice to be able to check your real time stats every 5 seconds though.

[mb]

I'm pretty sure he means using a service like sextracker which is notorious for baiting surfers to click on the graphic and sending them to popup/dialer/adware hell.

I second what greenguy is doing.

marc
hoes.com

[stuveltje]

Now, with the no counter rule - we will be going thru sites starting on July 19th (over 3 weeks from now) & sites that are currently listed & have counters will be pulled at that time.

*faints* got always listed at your site, i can understand your counter rule for counters like sextracker and that other redirected thing, i always used paycounter, now you made me think because what the other counters did paycounter could do too, my server stats sucks ( although me have a good host) .so even i am not happy right now because i have to go thru my sites again to change things.........i will change them.Its your site and it are your rules. Now i need something what gives me good stats, any suggestions?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by stuveltje
*faints* got always listed at your site, i can understand your counter rule for counters like sextracker and that other redirected thing, i always used paycounter, now you made me think because what the other counters did paycounter could do too, my server stats sucks ( although me have a good host) .so even i am not happy right now because i have to go thru my sites again to change things.........i will change them.Its your site and it are your rules. Now i need something what gives me good stats, any suggestions?

| no counters????????

[Fonz]

First thing on my agenda: Remove counters from freesites

[Linkster]

Originally posted by mb

I second what greenguy is doing.

I'll third this one good rule and being added to LFS as well

[stuveltje]

I'll third this one good rule and being added to LFS as well

Oh you guys make me cry so much now

Oke thats it me gonna go thru what..... about 2500+ pages and removing my counters...........*faint* grin its only the 7 time i have to go thru all my pages, i am getting used to it
Hya linkster

[Greenguy]

Copy cats
(of course, others gave me the idea anyway - LOL)

I only care about coutners that I can see while surfing, but with the java ones that are working behind the scenes, as long as Norton or Zone Alarm doesn't go off while reviewing, you should be safe

[Useless]

Originally posted by Greenguy
Copy cats
(of course, others gave me the idea anyway - LOL)

I only care about coutners that I can see while surfing, but with the java ones that are working behind the scenes, as long as Norton or Zone Alarm doesn't go off while reviewing, you should be safe

Phew!!! I was worried. I promise - my little hidden counter won't ring any bells or whistles. Though, I may just begin to leave it out if more and more link lists become sensitive to it. It's jsut nice to see which site is being referred by which list. Helps me to decide how to lay out my recips for future sites.

[stuveltje]

I only care about coutners that I can see while surfing, but with the java ones that are working behind the scenes, as long as Norton or Zone Alarm doesn't go off while reviewing, you should be safe

ahhhhhhhhhh, now you made me happy, because i realy want to keep my counters on my linksites , will try to remove most counters of my free sites, and will start in future to get used to look at my server stats! Thanks

[Cleo]

I find using my Analog stats for daily stats and AWStats for everything else gives me far more info then I ever got from any of the free counters.

[stuveltje]

AWStats

Yep kezza from link fabulous pointed me on that one this morning, after me was crying seeing GG post about his new rules ( just joking GG!) well i have tried different counters, but from start i use paycounter its easy and all and gives me alot of info, the rest redirected me and all, i am trying paid counter (netstats)on one of my linksites now, is cool to see about foreign traffic, but still they dont give me the info i see at paycounter, i check my paycounter everyday, that way i find out when something is strange like hotlinking and all. Till now me still happy with paycounter, so i am still glad they didnt fuck up....yet

[Cleo]

Personally I would love it if someone wrote a bit of code to remove PayCounter from all of my pages. Between all my domains I have PayCounter code on probably about one million or so pages. I stopped using them close to a year ago now I think.

[stuveltje]

Personally I would love it if someone wrote a bit of code to remove PayCounter from all of my pages. Between all my domains I have PayCounter code on probably about one million or so pages. I stopped using them close to a year ago now I think.

Why did you stopped using them cleo?

[Cleo]

Putting free counters on your pages hurts your listings at many places or even keeps you from getting listed and the stats from them suck anyway often being very inaccurate.

Once I leaned how to use my server stats there just wasn't any reason to use them anymore.

[Jan Barnes]

Cleo,

The way I see it, free counters have been useful in tersm of showing the referrers to a specific page. While my server stats give excellent statistics for each of my domains, they do not show the referrers to each specific page.

For example, I may have 20 small free sites under a domain. If I submit all of them to a bunch of link lists, the best way to see which ones got listed is to use a counter on the front page of each free site. For all of my free sites, I like to go through them once every 6-12 months or so to see which ones are still listed, or if any have been dropped. Then, I resubmit or update links as necessary. If I do not have referrer stats for each page in question, the only way is to use google to search for return links, and that is a pain in the ass. I really miss hitbox, their free counter was excellent.

[Surfn]

AWStats provides all the info on individual pages.

Pages-URL (Top 10) - Full list - Entry - Exit

[stuveltje]

The way I see it, free counters have been useful in tersm of showing the referrers to a specific page. While my server stats give excellent statistics for each of my domains, they do not show the referrers to each specific page.

thats what i mean and its great, but i will look into AWstats if they provide all the things i have at paycounter i realy will consider to replace paycounter for awstats.