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Old 2005-11-30, 04:33 PM   #1
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Talleyrand, I don't think anyone is going to explain this to you but I have some time to kill

The name of the paysite does NOT have to be in the link to make it 'un'-blind. There are lots of ways to make a text link that isn't blind. IF the surfer would know he's leaving the site he's on, IF the surfer understands he's possibly going to be asked for a cc, IF the surfer knows what he's getting into before he clicks that link, then it's not blind.

the problem is that lately, so many submits have been crossing that line so completely that it deserved a discussion.

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Old 2005-11-30, 04:45 PM   #2
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DEAR PONYGIRL:

Thank you for your quickly answer.
I knew what you told me because I read completely the thread.
I believed that my post was clear about the idea, and the example was only that: an example.
I think that the blind link point must to have some explicit rule about it because it is not enough to writte: "Not blind links accepted". But it is only my idea. May be is better go on with the old rule that webmasters did not understand well.

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Talleyrand, I don't think anyone is going to explain this to you but I have some time to kill

The name of the paysite does NOT have to be in the link to make it 'un'-blind. There are lots of ways to make a text link that isn't blind. IF the surfer would know he's leaving the site he's on, IF the surfer understands he's possibly going to be asked for a cc, IF the surfer knows what he's getting into before he clicks that link, then it's not blind.

the problem is that lately, so many submits have been crossing that line so completely that it deserved a discussion.

my 2 pennies, anyway

goin to cook dinner now.....

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Old 2005-11-30, 04:44 PM   #3
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I think webmasters have to be in the middle of this:
"This is link to paysite. You have to pay for porn there "
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"Click here to see the next gallery of this girl"

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Old 2005-11-30, 04:47 PM   #4
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I think webmasters have to be in the middle of this:
"This is link to paysite. You have to pay for porn there "
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"Click here to see the next gallery of this girl"

heheh...that's actually not bad
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Old 2005-11-30, 04:49 PM   #5
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I agree with you Talleyrand, linklist owners must do this. But from the other side - do you think it's possible to give universal instuction? If so - then let's make it here and use on every linklist.
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Old 2005-11-30, 04:59 PM   #6
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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?

If you're unsure whether or not a link is blind, it most likely IS blind in the eyes of many reviewers.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:15 PM   #7
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DEAR LEMMY:

If blind links are some so easy, why the link list owners have each one its own opinion about it?
When link list owners reject free sites for blind link, they says that they try to think like a surfer that will see the link. Why not to think like a webmaster about blind links? Is so difficult?

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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?

If you're unsure whether or not a link is blind, it most likely IS blind in the eyes of many reviewers.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:47 PM   #8
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If blind links are some so easy, why the link list owners have each one its own opinion about it?
Don't confuse varied opinions with disagreement on the concept, it's just (for the most part) a difference in where they draw the line.

If you want your sites to be universally accepted make your links universally unambiguous. If you still get rejected for blind links you didn't try hard enough.

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I'm sure many webmasters agree with this concept, but how can you check if they trick surfer?
Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
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Old 2005-11-30, 07:17 PM   #9
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DEAR SIR:

It is a pity that the webmasters must to wait that some Big Boy will write clear rules about blind link. Then, other will run to copy the new rules to their link list.

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Don't confuse varied opinions with disagreement on the concept, it's just (for the most part) a difference in where they draw the line.

If you want your sites to be universally accepted make your links universally unambiguous. If you still get rejected for blind links you didn't try hard enough.


Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
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Old 2005-12-01, 06:22 AM   #10
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Put yourself in the shoes of a reasonable surfer (as opposed to a quarrelsome webmaster) and click the link. If you're surprised at where you end up, you've been tricked.
Fonz's post inspired me, Lemmy.

Not to confuse the issue, but...

DEAR SIR/MADAM,

Would it okay to make a link with:

"Blind Link - Click Here!"

... since then surfer KNOWS it is a blind link when he click it...so then he is not be surprised.


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Old 2005-11-30, 05:35 PM   #11
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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?
Apparently, that depends on the webmasters native language.

I'm not taking shots here on the ESL guys, but after reading some of these site descriptions -- and I know Lemmy gets some of the same ones I do -- it becomes obvious that they don't have a firm grasp of how to create a properly formed sentence.

I would imagine that would make it a bit more difficult to understand what might be considered "blind" and what would not. I couldn't even imagine trying to build a site in a foreign language.

That does not make it acceptable mind you, just a possible reason for some of the confusion.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:07 PM   #12
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DEAR YAHOOK:

I think that the best rule must to born of link list owners posting about it. But for it is necessary that they want to do it...
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I agree with you Talleyrand, linklist owners must do this. But from the other side - do you think it's possible to give universal instuction? If so - then let's make it here and use on every linklist.
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:10 PM   #13
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How difficult is it to to understand the concept of not trying to trick the surfer into clicking on a link?
I'm sure many webmasters agree with this concept, but how can you check if they trick surfer?
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Old 2005-11-30, 05:46 PM   #14
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I agree that it depends of the webmaster native language. But it also depends of the lots of other factors. So it woud be great if someone gives here universal instuction how to write descriptions for paysites. It will be very usefull for submitters.
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Old 2005-11-30, 09:55 PM   #15
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Hmm I have this funny feeling that it still won't sink in. Why is that I wonder?
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Old 2005-11-30, 10:24 PM   #16
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I never try to argue with anybody It could be a good thread, but some people see something bad in every my thread or post...

As for blind links - I know what is that. But different linklist owners have different opinion about it.
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Old 2006-01-10, 10:23 AM   #17
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Great post guys. I now understand exactly what a blind link is. Thanks.
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Old 2006-01-22, 11:44 PM   #18
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As a newbie on building freesites, I can tell you that this thread really made things clear.

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Old 2006-08-25, 10:09 AM   #19
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Very interesting topic Old but still interesting
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Old 2006-08-25, 11:19 AM   #20
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I hate blind links... and no membership buying surfers, and reviewers who reject my sites, and musicals.
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Old 2006-08-25, 11:46 AM   #21
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Musicals suck... but the terrence and phillip musical in the south park movie was ok.

This is an older thread, how come when I try find an old thread it's gone I was looking for the one about who accepts more than 2 free sites per day.
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Old 2006-08-25, 12:26 PM   #22
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Musicals suck... but the terrence and phillip musical in the south park movie was ok.

This is an older thread, how come when I try find an old thread it's gone I was looking for the one about who accepts more than 2 free sites per day.
Hehe, I love South Park. Err... I mean I only hate it a little. You ever watch Aqua Teen Hunger Force? Sounds stupid but that show is halarious. That shake guy cracks me up "Shake, would you please come in here for a minute? Uh... Why dont you come in here, it'll be quicker." lol. Man thats some funny shit.

Anyways, if you find that thread post in it so I can see it too. Not that I would ever have enough ambition to actually build 2 free sites in 1 day but... It could happen.

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