F**k the K**s! (rant)

[xxxjay]

F**k the K**s!

You know what? I am so sick and tired of everything being about “protecting the children”…just yesterday I saw three glaring examples of how the government has to get involved because PARENTS SUCK:

1. The 2257 Law: You let the internet into your home, if you have kids under 18 – put a filter on that computer…there are a million solutions out there and a lot of them are FREE – just because you are too lazy to do that does not mean that you need the government to regulate a legitimate industry into oblivion!

2. Steroids and Baseball: The Republicans are heavily involved in enforcing mandatory steroid testing in baseball because it might send “the wrong message to the kids” – why don’t parents just talk to their kids about steroids and explain that they make you insane and shrinks your dick up? Or don’t let them read Jose Conenose’s book?

3. The Star Wars Toy @ Burger King: A number of consumer watchdog groups have come out in arms against Burger King because they put a toy in their happy meals that was from a PG-13 movie! Oh no, not PG-13…when have we turned into such a bunch of wimps?

Yeah, that’s right I said it “F**k the K**s” – every time the government wants to overstep their bounds and try to regulate our private lives they have to bring up “the kids” – well, I think that is a bunch of bullshit! Every time anyone brings “the kids” up – everyone backs down and that is just plain spineless! If you are under 18, you have a parent or guardian -- they are the ones that should be protecting you from the evils of the outside world…if you are under 18 and living on the streets you have much bigger things to worry about than porn, steroids, or Star Wars toys.

I went over this website with a fine-tooth comb:
http://www.moralityinmedia.org/

They seemed to have a million ideas about how to stop porn or bad TV, but never once did they mention WHAT YOU CAN DO AS A PARENT to keep you kids from these kinds of materials.

How the DOJ is getting the idea to link the mainstream porn industry with CP is just beyond me. CP has no place in the legit porn business -- we know it and the Feds know it. We probably do as much (or more) to police the internet for CP than the government…look at ASACP, for example.

The bottom line is parents need to start being parents and not be looking to an increasingly right wing government to legislate away anything that you don’t want you kids exposed to.

And the government needs to stop using “the children” or “the kids” to carry out their extreme right wing agenda. Just come out and say it, “We, the government, would like to rid the internet of all dirty pictures…” – I would have more respect for them if they would just do that -- stop using children as an excuse!

We don’t like being lied to and neither does the kids.

Ok, that is my rant for now.

[Smutferret]

Hey xxxjay,

Hear hear and a VERY big amen to that!

Regards,
SF

[Jim]

Jay, lucky we are not GFY I saw your ordeal over there

[Greenguy]

Good concept, bad choice of words.

(I'm the one that edited it if you want to yell at anyone)

[Useless]

I was just thinking that the title should be Fuck the Parents. Of course, you then run the risk of sounding incestuous. I suppose it's ok as long as they aren't your own parents.

[Qon]

yeah, its true man.... i h8 to see that protect the children shit when it comes to porn. why?

1) we as porn peddlers don't want kids on our sites anyhow (this is a fucking business; a kid can do nothing but raise my costs... they don't own credit cards)
2) its never been proven porn damages kids mentally (if it did, my sneaky ass would b 1 fucked up dude)
3) most of us don't even promote or link to anything even implying "underage" (including teen shit) just cuz we don't wanna be associated with that market

but hey... its america & there's a whole list of bullshit i can write about when it comes to the hypocrisy that has overtaken my country (which is y i live in thailand )

good post jay.... change the wording to the fuck the parents & u r on point



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[Cleo]

The woman who lives across the street from me, she knows that I sell porn, told me that she is afraid that her teenage son might be looking at online porn. So I explained that she should put blocking software on her son's computer. She said that she didn't want the hassle and expense of buying and installing software.

[Qon]

Originally Posted by Cleo

The woman who lives across the street from me, she knows that I sell porn, told me that she is afraid that her teenage son might be looking at online porn. So I explained that she should put blocking software on her son's computer. She said that she didn't want the hassle and expense of buying and installing software.

[nycfreak]

Originally Posted by Cleo

The woman who lives across the street from me, she knows that I sell porn, told me that she is afraid that her teenage son might be looking at online porn. So I explained that she should put blocking software on her son's computer. She said that she didn't want the hassle and expense of buying and installing software.

Is the software that expensive? Parents need to take responsiblity for themselves and stop blaming.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by nycfreak

Is the software that expensive? Parents need to take responsiblity for themselves and stop blaming.

The software is cheap, $25 to $40, but most teenagers are smart enough to disable it anyway.

I have a client with two teenage sons. Accessing porn online isn't an issue. What is a major problem is all the nasty spyware and virii that they manage install while looking for hacked game programs and free music.

Teenagers are going to find a way to look at porn. In my teenage days it was find Dad's stash of magazines. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Toby

Teenagers are going to find a way to look at porn. In my teenage days it was find Dad's stash of magazines. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Ain't that the truth...I did the same thing.

[lassiter]

Originally Posted by Toby

The software is cheap, $25 to $40, but most teenagers are smart enough to disable it anyway.

Which is why "protecting the kids" is such bull manure. Yes, a filter to keep little 8-year-old Sally from seeing reality porn when she's looking up information on fairy tales is a great thing and should be used and encouraged. But any good Republican businessman is gonna tell you that you can't "protect" someone from a commodity that they are deliberately seeking (like 16-year-olds looking for nekkid pictures). That's a whole different thing, and the fact that the government and the fundamentalist moralists treat them as exactly the same "problem" is either stupidity or being deliberately deceptive.

[Cleo]

Yeah that pretty much sums up my thoughts too.

Makes me wonder why I go through the trouble of putting tags on all my pages labeling it as for over 18 surfers.

[Greenguy]

Expensive? Hell, IE & AOL have it built in - my kids don't have access to a lot of things - the only pain is when, with IE, there's no "rating" o the site & they try to look up movie times & I have to type in the password so they can look at the site.

[xxxjay]

Originally Posted by Greenguy

Expensive? Hell, IE & AOL have it built in - my kids don't have access to a lot of things - the only pain is when, with IE, there's no "rating" o the site & they try to look up movie times & I have to type in the password so they can look at the site.

That's what I am saying. There are so many alternatives...if some parent really was that concerned about their kids being able to access my site...I would buy it for them and install it.

[cd34]

Actually, I think IE has PICS rating built in. So, if adult sites policed themselves by putting PICS ratings in the html, http://www.w3.org/PICS/, it would cost nothing.

There are other blockers out there. Newer netgear routers include a filter that is pretty darn easy to set up. There is a minimal subscription cost for it.

There are a number of blocking programs that range in price from $9.95 to $89.95 with the average probably hitting $29.95. Some require subscriptions to access databases that are updated, i.e. the old beverly project which was later replaced by the library project that became the basis for NetNanny.

http://www.icra.org/
http://www.cybersitter.com/ ($39.95 for US Residents)
http://www.cyberpatrol.com/ ($39.95 for US residents)
http://www.safesurf.com/ (You register your adult domains here, libraries and other organizations use this data. Some ISPs subscribe)

These are just a few.

[Cleo]

No it isn't expensive at all. Not to mention the lady lives across the street from me, I live in an expensive neighborhood and she drives a brand new BMW, so she isn't hurting for money anymore then anyone who's bills are all paid and their biggest money worry is how they can afford the new toy that they want to buy.

I do my part, I put adult labels on all of my pages, what else am I suppose to do?

People that want to delegate raising of their offspring by forcing their values on society should also go after other harmful things.

Food ads, every time I see an ad on TV I want to snack on something, hello we are fat as a whole and being fat is not healthy.

Alcohol ads, I don't drink myself but I know lots of people who abuse alcohol.

Cigarettes, not a whole lot of ads for them anymore, but still some. Cigarettes have been proving to kill, enough said.

Motorcycles, probably the most dangerous way to travel. I see my mortgage payment endangered every time FoxyAngel goes cruising around town on hers.

Gambling, I remember days when I didn't have to wait in line at the local 7/11 while blue haired ladies do scratch off cards at the register.

Guns, hello they are designed to kill people. I've been a shooting victim myself.

The world is a dangerous place. The only thing we do is show sex. Sex, the thing that without there wouldn't be a human race.

[Ramster]

Jay
I agree 100%. Too many people want to blame us. Monitor your kids!!!!!!! My 14 year old is NOT allowed to have his computer in his room. Period. No way in hell will it ever be.

[sue-fl]

Geez..it's very easy to keep your kids in check if you just put a little effort into it. I have one child left that is not an adult yet only 17.

This may sound weird to you all but I don't mind my kids after the age of 16 seeing some porn. I have offered them magazines, movies that I review and pick out. I've always been very open and they always knew they could ask me anything. By offering them porn that in my mind is considered the "norm" I know that they don't have the need to look at some of the "sick" stuff online. I can't control what they do at someone else's home. But I can install morals and right from wrong in them. That is my job as a parent. Not someone online who has to go threw all this crap now because the goverment is using them as an excuse.

None of my kids are sexual preverts because they have been exposed to porn. They are happy, "normal" people.

I don't understand the parents that bitch about all this stuff. If you have kids take the time to TALK to them. And quit blamming online porn, tv,video and music for messing them up.

Boy that touched a nerve in me! Sorry for the rant...couldn't help myself......

[pornrex]

Damn it!
I thought that this was gonna be a thread about NWA songs.

I was WAY off.

[guitar riff]

What Pisses me off is with the new 2257 I have to post my address for the fuckin holy rollin bible thumping radicals to see so they can come to my house and protest Well My kids liv here I work in a locked office in my house so my kids are never around it . But what will i tell em when Jeremiah the bible thumping fuck face comes to my door with his band of followers thinking that will be a free ticket to heaven to give shit to a Porn pusher.

And Cleo about the cigarette and alchohol ads thats good but ya know I know 1 person that have died from lung cancer and 1 from emphysema But I know 20 people that have died from alchohol either cirrhosis or Drunk drivers but ya see the Govt doesnt stop those alchohol ads.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by guitar riff

I know 1 person that have died from lung cancer and 1 from emphysema But I know 20 people that have died from alchohol either cirrhosis or Drunk drivers but ya see the Govt doesnt stop those alchohol ads.

I don't think anyone has ever died from seeing too much porn.

[koolkat]

Originally Posted by Cleo

I don't think anyone has ever died from seeing too much porn.

I did see a guy one time who died while jerking off to a porn magazine. Rigor motis had set in and the EMTs had to break his fingers to get it off his penis.

But anyways... I don't believe in the software either. Stand over your kids and watch what the fuck they are going too! Parents now a days let too much other stuff worry about their kids! They need to take control over what they do, not some software! Once parents start learning about being parents again, we won't have to worry about this!

And as far as CP... if the government actually cared about it, then they would stiffen the penalties not try to eliminate porn. Personally I think it should be the death penalty if you are caught doing CP. Won't have to worry about those sorry mother fuckers doing it anymore! Of course, as a reponsible parent, if I caught any one doing something like that to my kid, I would probably kill them myself!

[Useless]

Originally Posted by guitar riff

And Cleo about the cigarette and alchohol ads thats good but ya know I know 1 person that have died from lung cancer and 1 from emphysema But I know 20 people that have died from alchohol either cirrhosis or Drunk drivers but ya see the Govt doesnt stop those alchohol ads.

Sounds like you know a lot of people with drinking problems.

[Agent]

I always thought parents should setup a router with all IPs/hosts blocked excluding 'safe' ones. Give the kids access to sites like National Geographic, whatever. Find a service online that allows you to customize a page with bookarks so the kids can access them from one spot or create an HTML doc with the safe links and drop it on their desktop.