How many link lists do you submit to?

Shade · 2006-02-04, 10:42 PM

I've been wondering how many link lists everyone submits to. I've tried to submit to as many as i can to fill the 1 day limit that most give. I'm very curious to what everyone aims for.

Preacher · 2006-02-05, 12:41 AM

There's some good answers to that question here: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=23901

DangerDave · 2006-02-05, 01:24 AM

Shade,

Do not fall for the big numbers posted by many people. I have yet to see ANY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that supports the fact that submitting to more LinkLists bring your more success, money, or happiness.

Even when we submitted regularly, we NEVER submitted to more than about 16 LLs. Right now if I was submitting I would submit to about 12.

DD

Waka-Jawaka · 2006-02-05, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerDave

Shade,

Even when we submitted regularly, we NEVER submitted to more than about 16 LLs. Right now if I was submitting I would submit to about 12.

DD

seems LL niche is going to its end

HarryM · 2006-02-05, 02:20 AM

I definately agree with DD on that, I submit to just 9-16 sites using one entrance page, some sites always and some I swap in and out depending on niche etc.

A while ago I made some sites with mirrors to test it out and submitted them to over 60 link lists, these sites have made less than my normal ones with 1 entrance do and took way longer to make.

Surfn · 2006-02-05, 03:25 AM

I normally submit to 6-8 depending on the niche.

Xeno · 2006-02-05, 03:58 AM

When I was doing sites in the past and submitting them to LLs, I started to do as many as I could find, but later realized just as DD mentioned...I selected only a few.

ladydesigner · 2006-02-05, 08:25 AM

When I make a free site, I make two entrances with 12 recips on each one. That's about it. It seems to work fine that way for me. I also once tried submitting to as many ll as I could find but like others have said, it just doesn't pay off.

SI · 2006-02-05, 11:34 AM

20 custom text recips perfectly fits into my recip tables, so i submit to 20.

"seems LL niche is going to its end"

seems small LLs going to their end

Preacher · 2006-02-06, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SI

"seems LL niche is going to its end"

seems small LLs going to their end

Then who will be listing the sponsor content the big guys reject?

More fear mongering.

sue-fl · 2006-02-06, 05:23 PM

Wow very interesting! If most people only submit to 12-16 LL's then trying to get a link list going seems like a lot of work for nothing. Getting off the subject a bit. Thanks to a few good people from this board I get some great sites submitted but get a lot of crap also. It takes a lot of time keeping it up. So is it really worth the time and effort nowadays to do it? My hub gets a lot of traffic I'm really thinking maybe just doing hubs and linking to them from my free sites. My LL's has only been up for a year so I know it's to soon to expect to make money from it. But I make a lot of sales of my hub site already. Sure would like to hear some opinions or ideas. Thanks

ponygirl · 2006-02-06, 05:41 PM

I recently cut my submit list down quite a bit - I'm able to get more output & I'm definitely making more $$ so that's ok. I currently still submit to about 50-60 LLs, but some are out of support & loyalty more than traffic. I only do 4 tables & it only takes me about 20-30 min to submit by hand. I think if you have lots of other things on the go then 1 table does the trick, but if your main thing is freesites then more may work better for you. It's just something that you have to experiment with.

Sue - yes, the LL is a PITA lol, and a lot of work. I'm going to keep mine up tho, just because I've put so much work into it, it's my baby

Hubs are great too. My plan this year is to put up niche hubs all over the place & just keep running the one LL. It slows down the freesite subbing a bit but along with some other projects, I think it's going to be more profitable in the long run that way.

Ponygirl

ponygirl · 2006-02-06, 06:02 PM

oh, and I don't think that the small LL is dead, not by a long shot

Ponygirl

Mr Exotic · 2006-02-05, 01:10 PM

Well I havent been at it too long, just started my free site network about 2-3 weeks ago but I have progressed faster than I expected and am happy with the results so far. I have 2 recip tables I use with 12 recips on each of them. But I dont make mirrors, I just make 2 different sites a day, figure that gives me twice the keywords to target and keeps me out of trouble in the se's with duplication penalties.

Shade · 2006-02-06, 12:35 AM

I've noticed that i get great traffic from about 7 or 8, and then there is a drop off that goes down to 4-5 uniques a day down to some that are just 1 unqiue a day. Im just wondering if there is some kind of hidden effect that might help out, like increasing SEO, pagerank, or whatnot.

Pendo · 2006-02-06, 01:31 AM

I submit to 84, takes me about 40 mins to submit to all of them, not so hard to do...

massive-x · 2006-02-06, 12:40 PM

I submit to 132 L'sL, cose I'm still in a resarch fase!
I submit on every LL that I can find to support femdom niche! Some day I hope realy soon, I will re-bulid my submit list and keep only LL's witch send me the biggest traffic!Would it be only 15-16 or 50 LL's I dont know yet!

jerkit · 2006-02-06, 01:24 PM

Totally agree with you guys. I only submit to 8-16 depending on niche. Course I'm still trying to get listed at a few and GG hasn't liked mine lately... So it's not been too productive.

I focus on my LL now and building more content to increase traffic there and only fire out a handful of freesites/month now. Also one good idea is to pay for listings at some good LLs and TGPs. The traffic, lack of delay in getting listed, etc can really be worth it.

HarryM · 2006-02-06, 11:14 PM

I agree with what you're saying there Blue, but about the rules... if small linklists are too lose with their rules won't they just end up being a big list of shit?

Mr. Blue · 2006-02-07, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryMuff

I agree with what you're saying there Blue, but about the rules... if small linklists are too lose with their rules won't they just end up being a big list of shit?

I'm not saying to loosen the rules but some people decide they have to explain the rules with three pages of writing. Why? lol. Just take a look at Tommy's Bookmarks rules...it fits into a few lines and runs right next to his submit.

You go to some smaller LL and it's like reading the declaration of independence. There's been a few smaller linklists that went to such length to explain their rules that I had to cut & copy it into MS Word just to see the word count on it...the highest so far was 4,000 words.

The thing is, they were the exact same rules that apply at Tommy's or RR's...why did it take 4000 words to say it? Then when they change their rules, etc, they wonder why no one took notice that one sentence in the novel got changed.

plateman · 2006-02-07, 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

I'm not saying to loosen the rules but some people decide they have to explain the rules with three pages of writing. Why? lol. Just take a look at Tommy's Bookmarks rules...it fits into a few lines and runs right next to his submit.

You go to some smaller LL and it's like reading the declaration of independence. There's been a few smaller linklists that went to such length to explain their rules that I had to cut & copy it into MS Word just to see the word count on it...the highest so far was 4,000 words.

The thing is, they were the exact same rules that apply at Tommy's or RR's...why did it take 4000 words to say it? Then when they change their rules, etc, they wonder why no one took notice that one sentence in the novel got changed.

hehe true and I am gonna cut mine down and get rid of the no brainer stuff that people should know..

also I submitt to 16 to 18 LL on one page and doorways are not in my free site model, for extra traffic I sub to tgps

also there are many factors in figuring out who to sub to and is it worth building another mirror page for recips.. I have a larger size LL with smaller traffic than the bigger LL, but going by the sales I get and the growing traffic I am seeing, I would most surely submitt to smaller LL, over time you adjust some, and some of the most older LL dont have a huge blast of traffic that I sub to but I know for a fact those send sales..

what did MML tell me awhile back, oh he said "you cant cash stats just checks.. hehe

Mr. Blue · 2006-02-07, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by plateman

hehe true and I am gonna cut mine down and get rid of the no brainer stuff that people should know

lol yours is actually not that long. Some are just amazing in length...they're awe inspiring.

MadMax · 2006-02-09, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

lol yours is actually not that long. Some are just amazing in length...they're awe inspiring.

I have no idea who you might be talking about

Jel · 2006-02-08, 12:49 AM

Mr. Blue - I also have a one-does-all recip - would love to see your sites

http://www.cfnmparty.co.uk/submissions/

ladydesigner · 2006-02-08, 08:58 AM

I too have went with the "one recip" for Click 4Sex Fun. Of course, the niched recips are still available for those that would like to use them. I've also shortened my rules pages on both my ll to 9 rules instead of about 25.

2006-02-04, 10:42 PM	#1
Shade Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 29	How many link lists do you submit to? I've been wondering how many link lists everyone submits to. I've tried to submit to as many as i can to fill the 1 day limit that most give. I'm very curious to what everyone aims for.

2006-02-05, 12:41 AM	#2
Preacher There's Xanax in my thurible! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Wherever they screw on my head Posts: 2,441	There's some good answers to that question here: http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=23901 __________________ NSCash * This Depraved World

2006-02-05, 01:24 AM	#3
DangerDave Bonged Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BrisVegas, AUSTRALIA Posts: 4,882	Shade, Do not fall for the big numbers posted by many people. I have yet to see ANY SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE that supports the fact that submitting to more LinkLists bring your more success, money, or happiness. Even when we submitted regularly, we NEVER submitted to more than about 16 LLs. Right now if I was submitting I would submit to about 12. DD __________________ Old Dollars >>>> Now with over 90 Hosted Free Sites <<<< DangerDave.com.au - Adult Links to Free Porn

2006-02-05, 02:20 AM	#5
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	I definately agree with DD on that, I submit to just 9-16 sites using one entrance page, some sites always and some I swap in and out depending on niche etc. A while ago I made some sites with mirrors to test it out and submitted them to over 60 link lists, these sites have made less than my normal ones with 1 entrance do and took way longer to make. __________________ Click here to make huge $$$

2006-02-05, 03:25 AM	#6
Surfn If you don’t take a chance the Angels won’t dance Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Earth on occasion Posts: 8,812	I normally submit to 6-8 depending on the niche. __________________ Surfn's Links Are you a partner?

2006-02-05, 03:58 AM	#7
Xeno Do you want the job done right, or do you want it done fast? Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 494	When I was doing sites in the past and submitting them to LLs, I started to do as many as I could find, but later realized just as DD mentioned...I selected only a few. __________________ Why I never sleep anymore... Web Designing

2006-02-05, 08:25 AM	#8
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	When I make a free site, I make two entrances with 12 recips on each one. That's about it. It seems to work fine that way for me. I also once tried submitting to as many ll as I could find but like others have said, it just doesn't pay off. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

2006-02-05, 11:34 AM	#9
SI You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is 'never try' Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 163	20 custom text recips perfectly fits into my recip tables, so i submit to 20. "seems LL niche is going to its end" seems small LLs going to their end __________________ DDF Cash

2006-02-06, 05:23 PM	#11
sue-fl You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 2,837	Wow very interesting! If most people only submit to 12-16 LL's then trying to get a link list going seems like a lot of work for nothing. Getting off the subject a bit. Thanks to a few good people from this board I get some great sites submitted but get a lot of crap also. It takes a lot of time keeping it up. So is it really worth the time and effort nowadays to do it? My hub gets a lot of traffic I'm really thinking maybe just doing hubs and linking to them from my free sites. My LL's has only been up for a year so I know it's to soon to expect to make money from it. But I make a lot of sales of my hub site already. Sure would like to hear some opinions or ideas. Thanks

2006-02-06, 05:41 PM	#12
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	I recently cut my submit list down quite a bit - I'm able to get more output & I'm definitely making more $$ so that's ok. I currently still submit to about 50-60 LLs, but some are out of support & loyalty more than traffic. I only do 4 tables & it only takes me about 20-30 min to submit by hand. I think if you have lots of other things on the go then 1 table does the trick, but if your main thing is freesites then more may work better for you. It's just something that you have to experiment with. Sue - yes, the LL is a PITA lol, and a lot of work. I'm going to keep mine up tho, just because I've put so much work into it, it's my baby Hubs are great too. My plan this year is to put up niche hubs all over the place & just keep running the one LL. It slows down the freesite subbing a bit but along with some other projects, I think it's going to be more profitable in the long run that way. Ponygirl __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2006-02-06, 06:02 PM	#13
ponygirl on vacation Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 2,095	oh, and I don't think that the small LL is dead, not by a long shot Ponygirl __________________ Submit Your Porn I do CSS coding Hosting - JMB Scripts - Tube Site Resources

2006-02-05, 01:10 PM	#14
Mr Exotic rifuckingdiculous Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cornfield in Indiana Posts: 532	Well I havent been at it too long, just started my free site network about 2-3 weeks ago but I have progressed faster than I expected and am happy with the results so far. I have 2 recip tables I use with 12 recips on each of them. But I dont make mirrors, I just make 2 different sites a day, figure that gives me twice the keywords to target and keeps me out of trouble in the se's with duplication penalties. __________________ Submit Free Sites/Galleries

2006-02-06, 12:35 AM	#15
Shade Aw, Dad, you've done a lot of great things, but you're a very old man, and old people are useless Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 29	I've noticed that i get great traffic from about 7 or 8, and then there is a drop off that goes down to 4-5 uniques a day down to some that are just 1 unqiue a day. Im just wondering if there is some kind of hidden effect that might help out, like increasing SEO, pagerank, or whatnot.

2006-02-06, 01:31 AM	#16
Pendo My wife is not a doobie to be passed around! On our wedding day I promised to bogart her for life! Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 271	I submit to 84, takes me about 40 mins to submit to all of them, not so hard to do... __________________ My Freesites

2006-02-06, 12:40 PM	#17
massive-x Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand! Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 92	I submit to 132 L'sL, cose I'm still in a resarch fase! I submit on every LL that I can find to support femdom niche! Some day I hope realy soon, I will re-bulid my submit list and keep only LL's witch send me the biggest traffic!Would it be only 15-16 or 50 LL's I dont know yet!

2006-02-06, 01:24 PM	#18
jerkit WHO IS FONZY!?! Don't they teach you anything at school? Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 42	Totally agree with you guys. I only submit to 8-16 depending on niche. Course I'm still trying to get listed at a few and GG hasn't liked mine lately... So it's not been too productive. I focus on my LL now and building more content to increase traffic there and only fire out a handful of freesites/month now. Also one good idea is to pay for listings at some good LLs and TGPs. The traffic, lack of delay in getting listed, etc can really be worth it. __________________ Regards, Darryl Submit Free Sites at Jerk-It! (I try to do maximum 24-48 hour turnaround)

2006-02-06, 11:14 PM	#19
HarryM No offence Apu, but when they were handing out religions you must have been out taking a whizz Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Australia Posts: 285	I agree with what you're saying there Blue, but about the rules... if small linklists are too lose with their rules won't they just end up being a big list of shit? __________________ Click here to make huge $$$

2006-02-08, 12:49 AM	#24
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Mr. Blue - I also have a one-does-all recip - would love to see your sites http://www.cfnmparty.co.uk/submissions/

2006-02-08, 08:58 AM	#25
ladydesigner ~Serving Up Sinful Sex ~ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Missouri City, Texas Posts: 1,928	I too have went with the "one recip" for Click 4Sex Fun. Of course, the niched recips are still available for those that would like to use them. I've also shortened my rules pages on both my ll to 9 rules instead of about 25. __________________ Porn Pixie XxX ~ Looking for Link Trades

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