IE on pace to drop below 50% share by 2011

[Cleo]

Full article on computerworld.

Microsoft's Internet Explorer (IE), which again fell to a new market share low last month, is on a pace of decline that will push the once overwhelming dominant browser under 50% by this time in 2011, according to new Web usage data.

IE lost 0.7 of a percentage point to end April with a 66.1% share of the browser market, another new low as pegged by metrics vendor Net Applications Inc., which started tracking browsers in 2005.

As in March, the April gains by IE8, which launched that month, where not enough to stem the slide of the browser's overall share. While IE8 boosted its share by 2.2 percentage points, IE7 lost 2 points and the creaking IE6 lost 0.8 percent point.

"Is there an end to IE's decline?" asked Vince Vizzaccaro, executive vice president of marketing for Net Applications. "I don't know. I never thought they would drop this far..."

[ArtWilliams]

I wonder how much of that was due to Google Chrome? I am waiting for a Linux version of that. It is pretty cool in Windows.

Originally Posted by Cleo

Full article on computerworld.

[Cleo]

I played around with the version of Google Chrome that is ported to Mac. It seemed decent but not sure why someone would use it instead of Firefox if they were going to run a 3rd party browser.

[Maj. Stress]

IE gets worse with every update. I finally gave up on it.

[Bill]

I recently made firefox my default browser. It's the superior tool.

I still submit from ie tho...

[nate]

firefox gets worse with every update too. It opens like a pig waking up, renders shit slow and crashes about 5 times a day. Its better than ie, but not by very much anymore.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by nate

firefox gets worse with every update too. It opens like a pig waking up, renders shit slow and crashes about 5 times a day. Its better than ie, but not by very much anymore.

My love of Firefox is decreasing as well -- not enough to start using IE again, but it's certainly not as quick as it once was. I've tried disabling all of my plugins to no avail, but now I only keep active the ones which I use daily. Every once in awhile, when I go to open FF, I get the warning that it's already running. So I check the task manager and see that FF is running in the background and consuming 99% of my PC's processing power. Makes me wonder if it really was running all that time, or if it was a failed start-up.

[stuveltje]

I use Firefox as my main browser, i have to admit same like Nate and UW, firefox is getting realy a pain in the ass sometimes, but with reviewing its for me the safest browser, i saw 2 days ago a link on the dutch newspaper website for the new ie 7 or so to try, i was doubting it to check and try, but since i never use ie to surf for the last 4 years, i wont even go there.

[kickass]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Every once in awhile, when I go to open FF, I get the warning that it's already running. So I check the task manager and see that FF is running in the background and consuming 99% of my PC's processing power. Makes me wonder if it really was running all that time, or if it was a failed start-up.

Same thing happens to me sometimes, the reason for it is a previous failure that made FF to not close properly.

About the topic of the thread, i can't say I'm surprised, IE is getting worse all the time, I only use it when I run into a site that for some reason works with IE only.

[kriss]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

My love of Firefox is decreasing as well -- not enough to start using IE again, but it's certainly not as quick as it once was. I've tried disabling all of my plugins to no avail, but now I only keep active the ones which I use daily. Every once in awhile, when I go to open FF, I get the warning that it's already running. So I check the task manager and see that FF is running in the background and consuming 99% of my PC's processing power. Makes me wonder if it really was running all that time, or if it was a failed start-up.

+1 still prefer firefox to IE but found firefox bugs increasing each update..

[Cleo]

Safari works great on my Mac and is my main browser.

Firefox works great too but is slower than Safari and not integrated well with the rest of the Mac the way Safari is.

Even IE running under Crossover works very well although it seems very picky about coding and renders pages rather ugly.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Cleo

Even IE running under Crossover works very well although it seems very picky about coding and renders pages rather ugly.

i have seen that with some of my pages but then with firefox, they look great in ie but hell in firefox they only look for a part great, so thats why i am coding now......

[cd34]

I had firefox crashes with the 3.0 series. I've been running the Beta since 3.1b3 (now 3.5b4) Firefox Beta Download. Since the beta, I haven't had a crash. Pages that normally caused problems included a lot of javascript, dhtml, iframes & javascript or other issues. About the only thing that does happen once in a while is that some page with flash will have a banner or video that firefox deems is taking too much time, and it'll prompt me to disable that flash movie. 3.1/3.5 uses a different javascript engine -- I believe the same one chrome uses.

I do use Safari about 30% of the time and while I do prefer parts of it, the firefox beta seems quicker to me.

Firefox beta DOES render things a little differently than you would expect. I've found more code errors in a few sites I've worked with as a result. Most of the coding issues are related to improper nesting of html tags and pages that have too many errors to validate. If you use a lot of addons, running the beta will surely be frustrating as very few of the addons work with it yet.

[cd34]

The complete irony here is that a youtube link someone sent me just locked up Firefox3.5b4 about a minute ago. Safari wouldn't even load youtube at the time.

One day I will learn the keyboard sequence to kill tasks rather than reverting to the shell prompt.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by cd34

One day I will learn the keyboard sequence to kill tasks rather than reverting to the shell prompt.

You could always leave Activity Monitor open and just point and click.

[Cleo]

My browser stats so far this month over at Cleo's Links.
MS Internet Explorer 62.3 %
Firefox 14.3 %
Unknown 9.2 %
Safari 7.2 %
Opera 2.1 %
Mozilla 1.2 %
Google Chrome 1.2 %

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by Cleo

My browser stats so far this month over at Cleo's Links.
MS Internet Explorer 62.3 %
Firefox 14.3 %
Unknown 9.2 %
Safari 7.2 %
Opera 2.1 %
Mozilla 1.2 %
Google Chrome 1.2 %

MS Internet Explorer 62.7 %
unknown 10.8 %
Firefox 10.2 %
Opera 9.1 %
Netscape 2.8 %
Mozilla 1.8 %
Safari 1.1 %
Acrobat Webcapture 0.3 %
K-Meleon 0.3 %
Phoenix 0.1 %
Other 0.2 %
So still head browser is ie, i am just very curriouse about the unknown one on my list, btw this is the one to my own linksite

[Cleo]

My kinky-cleo.com stats so far this month
MS Internet Explorer 60.9 %
Firefox 23.4 %
Safari 4.9 %
Netscape 2.8 %
Opera 2.7 %
Unknown 1.4 %
Google Chrome 1.2 %

[stuveltje]

what i wonder myself while most i know use or focus on an other browser then ie...why are we doing that, because of stats we notice that most still use ie?

[JustRobert]

Originally Posted by stuveltje

what i wonder myself while most i know use or focus on an other browser then ie...why are we doing that, because of stats we notice that most still use ie?

Often wondered that myself stuveltje. The average surfer goes to store and buys pc/laptop, brings it home and surfs. They do not change anything on system unless it breaks. IE is still the browser of choice that comes with buying a new system. Because of this I still use IE, when that changes I will. Until then it is what it is.

Remember, even if IE drops to 50% that just means that ALL the others make up the other 50% which still keeps IE as the majority.

When looking thru stats I did notice a difference with sites and search traffic. If yahoo is tops there is a higher percentage of IE users (70%) compared to a site where google is tops (60%).

Edit: Forgot to mention with my comparison, which was across 12 niche hubs btw, that when yahoo was top SE Firefox had 10% compared to when google was tops Firefox had 25%.

[stuveltje]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

Often wondered that myself stuveltje. The average surfer goes to store and buys pc/laptop, brings it home and surfs. They do not change anything on system unless it breaks. IE is still the browser of choice that comes with buying a new system. Because of this I still use IE, when that changes I will. Until then it is what it is.

Remember, even if IE drops to 50% that just means that ALL the others make up the other 50% which still keeps IE as the majority.

When looking thru stats I did notice a difference with sites and search traffic. If yahoo is tops there is a higher percentage of IE users (70%) compared to a site where google is tops (60%).

i think your right, i know my kids just surf and use ie, while i forched them to use firefox, reason, i had to fix their puter to many times, the only thing i see differend with ie and firefox is....firefox protects you more agains shit when you click a site....to be honest thats also the reason why i use it because i am a reviewer......mmmm seems i have to focus more on ie then, still my sites look great in ie, but then i am not planning to fuck those other surfers who use firefox with a bad looking site.....heay even its is a smal percentage of people it are still possible buyers and i have to keep them happy too.

[digifan]

My stats:
1. Internet Explorer 50.78%
2. Firefox 36.99%
3. Safari 4.89%
4. Opera 3.52%
5. Chrome 2.21%
6. Mozilla 0.34%
7. Playstation 3 0.28%
8. SeaMonkey 0.24%
9. Opera Mini 0.23%
10. Netscape 0.22%

[Useless]

Originally Posted by JustRobert

Often wondered that myself stuveltje. The average surfer goes to store and buys pc/laptop, brings it home and surfs. They do not change anything on system unless it breaks. IE is still the browser of choice that comes with buying a new system. Because of this I still use IE, when that changes I will. Until then it is what it is.

My choice of browser has nothing to do with the browser-preference of basically ignorant surfers and I don't think your choice is based on those losers either. You choose a browser because you like it and/or are comfortable with it. I like FF for a variety reasons: security, customability, add-ons, etc. A great deal of surfers don't even know that there are other browsers out there. Hell, most of those moronic fuckers don't even know what a browser is.

I think IE's usage will continue to dwindle as Apple products continue to gain in popularity. Apple has been branding itself as the quality product while Microsoft continued to push for mass appeal/market share. People who purchase Apple products love them and even have a snobby attitude about it, but that goes along with purchasing a superior product, whether it's a boat, car, phone, mp3 player, etc. Marketing is good food.

[stuveltje]

oh and now i am getting confused, if i look to my ipods porn domain then the stats will look like this:
Safari 58.5 %
MS Internet Explor 22.2 %
Netscape 8 %
Mozilla 4 %
Unknown 4 %
Firefox 2 %
Opera 1 %

i checked some more domains, there is defitnly a difference between free site and tgp surfers and linksite surfers and hubs surfers of what browser they use, i have to get into that one, to understand why there is a difference

[Cleo]

Makes sense on your iPod domain as Safari is the browser that is used on iPhones and iTouch iPods. Google's Android phone also uses webkit which Safari is based on.

I really, really, really wish AWStats broke down Safari versions so that I could see what percent is mobile Safari.