Oprano Calls Out Thieving Sponsors

[GonZo]

In an effort to twart the growing trend of sponsors stealing from the very webmasters that send them traffic - Oprano has launched the Sponsor Spotlight.

This forum will allow all users to expose sponsors that support spyware, stolen content and other dirty business practices.

Fake nics are encouraged if you can back up your claim with screen shots.

You can find the new Sponsor Spotlight at

http://www.oprano.com/msgboard/forumdisplay.php?f=42

[Surfn]

Good luck with the new forum. There is a need for it.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by Surfn

Good luck with the new forum. There is a need for it.

Thanks.
That music is playing again!

[eman]

Thumbs up for your efforts.

Will your forum accept (for example) allegations regarding well known sponsors who apparently "shave" by manipulating their stats?

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by eman

Thumbs up for your efforts.

Will your forum accept (for example) allegations regarding well known sponsors who apparently "shave" by manipulating their stats?

Can you provide examples with screen shots?

BTW I dont call it shaving. I call it STEALING . . . because thats what it is.

[eman]

Originally Posted by GonZo

Can you provide examples with screen shots?

BTW I dont call it shaving. I call it STEALING . . . because thats what it is.

I'm not sure that it would be possible to prove anything. I was thinking more along the lines of inviting open speculation.

If one webmaster says his ratios have gone bad with such and such a sponsor and that view is then supported by a dozen other wms, then "the weight of opinion" would seem to suggest that something is wrong. If enough people smell a rat then there probably is a rat.

On the other hand, if nobody else supports an accusation then it will be seen to be unfounded with no real harm done in terms of a program's reputation.

[GonZo]

Originally Posted by eman

I'm not sure that it would be possible to prove anything. I was thinking more along the lines of inviting open speculation.

If one webmaster says his ratios have gone bad with such and such a sponsor and that view is then supported by a dozen other wms, then "the weight of opinion" would seem to suggest that something is wrong. If enough people smell a rat then there probably is a rat.

On the other hand, if nobody else supports an accusation then it will be seen to be unfounded with no real harm done in terms of a program's reputation.

While these forums are open to free speech . . . and your certainly open to speculate. . .

I think I would be very careful on how I would word any post along those lines. Im sure that Green Guy and Jim would both agree that as forum owners we arent liable for unfounded speculation on the part of our users.

From where I sit I wouldnt make that post. It would be like saying can I call out a gay sponsor that I send all my straight traffic to and it doesn't convert?

Certainly thats not the spirit in which I open this forum.

[eman]

Originally Posted by GonZo

While these forums are open to free speech . . . and your certainly open to speculate. . .

I think I would be very careful on how I would word any post along those lines. Im sure that Green Guy and Jim would both agree that as forum owners we arent liable for unfounded speculation on the part of our users.

From where I sit I wouldnt make that post. It would be like saying can I call out a gay sponsor that I send all my straight traffic to and it doesn't convert?

Certainly thats not the spirit in which I open this forum.

Gonzo, I respect what you're trying to do and I fully appreciate the fine line between defamation and information.

But that fine line encompasses a huge gap in terms of acceptable/unacceptable business practices.

That's where my concerns are focused.

I might have to start my own site.

[Allfetish]

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