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Old 2004-09-10, 10:10 PM   #1
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1st freesites attempt

Hey All -

We're taking our first crack at gay freesites to see what kinda traffic and converts we can expect. Looking for comments and suggestions:

http://www.gaycum.com/sitelist.html

Has the first 3 that were built last night and our guy is working on 3 more right now, including 1 video freesite.

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Old 2004-09-10, 11:20 PM   #2
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Not a expert or even close,but they each should have title and not Gay Cum
recips should be on index page not main
All three look the same so ya might wanna change the look.
titles
An Interracial Experience etc
they look ok to me but like i said not a expert hehe
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Old 2004-09-10, 11:29 PM   #3
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Not a expert or even close,but they each should have title and not Gay Cum
recips should be on index page not main
All three look the same so ya might wanna change the look.
titles
An Interracial Experience etc
they look ok to me but like i said not a expert hehe
Thanks - I had asked him to change the text/table layout on the next batch and keep it somewhat random. As for the title having Gay Cum, it's only because we're trying to brand it somewhat.

Thanks for the note on recips, I'll be sure to tell him that for the next batch as well.
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Old 2004-09-10, 11:36 PM   #4
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Branding the name is not going to get it listed on freesites they have that rule about title pages.
Maybe you should have him go to sites and read up abit that way you'll be safe.
I'm fairly sure about that one.
Well time to start drinkin have a goodie
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Old 2004-09-10, 11:39 PM   #5
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Branding the name is not going to get it listed on freesites they have that rule about title pages.
Maybe you should have him go to sites and read up abit that way you'll be safe.
I'm fairly sure about that one.
Well time to start drinkin have a goodie
It does also have the title of the scene in their, it just says GayCum Presents first
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Old 2004-09-11, 10:15 AM   #6
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Hey asshole -

Maybe you can explain why the whois info for you is the same as the whois info for ultracash.com which everyone knows Jim got fucked out of as well as a shit load of other domains that are in your name.

Oh yeah - one other thing - http://www.ultrateen.com/ - Jim owns the rights to those pics - I hope you have a good lawyer.
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Old 2004-09-11, 10:19 AM   #7
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Hey asshole -

Maybe you can explain why the whois info for you is the same as the whois info for ultracash.com which everyone knows Jim got fucked out of as well as a shit load of other domains that are in your name.

Oh yeah - one other thing - http://www.ultrateen.com/ - Jim owns the rights to those pics - I hope you have a good lawyer.
Hmm, I was wondering about the content...
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Old 2004-09-11, 10:47 AM   #8
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Hmmm
Very curious...
Whois shows the last name of an old friend and good friend of my ex theiving partner. Greenie and I were just talking...these domains are dead to you. Why you would ever bring them out of the closet again is beyond me. Is it really worth it???

Write to me at jim@greenguysboard.com and I will let you know what you have to do to use them again.

For everyone else, in case you have forgotten who this person is, read about it here.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/ultracash.html
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Old 2004-09-11, 01:08 PM   #9
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Hmmm
Very curious...
Whois shows the last name of an old friend and good friend of my ex theiving partner. Greenie and I were just talking...these domains are dead to you. Why you would ever bring them out of the closet again is beyond me. Is it really worth it???

Write to me at jim@greenguysboard.com and I will let you know what you have to do to use them again.

For everyone else, in case you have forgotten who this person is, read about it here.
http://www.greenguysboard.com/ultracash.html
Very interesting article - first off, I can assure you of the fact that I am not Michel Gringas. Second, I am in no way affiliated with "UltraCash" and up until about 10 minutes ago, had never heard of it. While submitting a site to a LL, a banned error came up stating UltraCash which I submitted an appeal for, for that very reason - I had never heard of it.

I was in the process of purchasing some domain names, which I can now only assume that they all belonged to "Ultra Cash" and Michel - and was going to run a campaign on them of Freesites - however, I guess I should really reconsider now having read this news.
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Old 2004-09-11, 02:16 PM   #10
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Oh come on! Let's not play dumb here.

http://www.directnic.com/whois/?query=gaycum.com
Registrant:
NA
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Domain Name: GAYCUM.COM

Administrative Contact:
Savoie, Paulin psavoie@atconsulting.ca
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Technical Contact:
Savoie, Paulin psavoie@atconsulting.ca
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Record last updated 05-30-2004 12:00:16 PM
Record expires on 01-26-2005
Record created on 01-27-1998

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.EGONETWORKS.COM 69.30.192.203
DNS2.EGONETWORKS.COM 69.30.192.204

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http://www.directnic.com/whois/?query=ultracash.com
Registrant:
NA
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Domain Name: ULTRACASH.COM

Administrative Contact:
Savoie, Paulin psavoie@atconsulting.ca
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Technical Contact:
Savoie, Paulin psavoie@atconsulting.ca
273 Wellington St
Miramichi, New Brunswick E1N 1N7
CA
506-773-6795x5066251481
Fax:506-773-3071

Record last updated 05-30-2004 12:00:18 PM
Record expires on 10-18-2004
Record created on 10-19-1997

Domain servers in listed order:
DNS1.EGONETWORKS.COM 69.30.192.203
DNS2.EGONETWORKS.COM 69.30.192.204

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Are you saying that you are NOT Paulin Savoie?????? That you do not own these domains?
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Old 2004-09-11, 02:51 PM   #11
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Very interesting article - first off, I can assure you of the fact that I am not Michel Gringas. Second, I am in no way affiliated with "UltraCash" and up until about 10 minutes ago, had never heard of it. While submitting a site to a LL, a banned error came up stating UltraCash which I submitted an appeal for, for that very reason - I had never heard of it.

I was in the process of purchasing some domain names, which I can now only assume that they all belonged to "Ultra Cash" and Michel - and was going to run a campaign on them of Freesites - however, I guess I should really reconsider now having read this news.
Holy Shit...you must really think we are stupid. Do you really think we posted anything without checking out whois at least? So, you have never heard of ultracash and yet, it is registered to the same person as gaycum.com. You probably never heard of freepictures.com, ultrahardcore.com or susy.com either, right? So, you are thinking of purchasing these domains and yet, they are in your name now?
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Old 2004-09-12, 11:57 AM   #12
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Holy Shit...you must really think we are stupid. Do you really think we posted anything without checking out whois at least? So, you have never heard of ultracash and yet, it is registered to the same person as gaycum.com. You probably never heard of freepictures.com, ultrahardcore.com or susy.com either, right? So, you are thinking of purchasing these domains and yet, they are in your name now?
I don't think you are stupid at all, but think about it for a second. If I was Paulin, and knew about UltraCash/Michel ripping off Jim - do you really think that I would come on GreenguyandJim to ask about the domains? Christ; think things threw for a second. I am not Paulin, I am not Michel - I am a 3rd party that is test driving the domains to make sure they could convert, prior to purchasing. In doing so, I now know about this story.

Look at the DNS servers those are pointing too, that would be my company. I was doing Paulin's hosting, when he approached me about buying out these domains. Sheesh.
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Old 2004-09-12, 02:06 PM   #13
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None of it has made any sense to me or Greenie for a few years now. If I am mistaken about you, I do apologize. I have asked a friend that has also been screwed by Michel to look into things at the moment. If you are truly not involved with him, let me give you some advice. None of those domains are worth the space they take up on a server to anyone but myself. None of the content is worth anything to anyone but myself. Many major linklists have banned not only the domains but also sites that even have them as links. These domains have been a huge can of worms since I was screwed. Michel has screwed almost everyone that has done business with him and if you truly didn't know there was a problem with these domains, he is trying to screw you too.

If you get a chance, read the story of Ultracash and Jimsmoney again. If I had the extra cash back then, my lawyer and I have no doubt that I would own those domains and would have received a huge settlement. As the story reads, I chose to take care of my family instead of taking what is rightfully mine.

Let him know that we will be watching those domains very closely. If he tries to sell them instead of doing the right thing (handing them over to me), we will make sure the prospective buyer will know the story.

Remember, this was my life's savings. This was my ability to retire before 40. This was a person I trusted with my life. Greed caused him to squander all of that. It will never be forgotten.
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Old 2004-09-12, 05:01 PM   #14
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None of it has made any sense to me or Greenie for a few years now. If I am mistaken about you, I do apologize. I have a friend that has also been screwed by Michel looking into things at the moment. If you are truly not involved with him, let me give you some advice. None of those domains are worth the space they take up on a server to anyone but myself. None of the content is worth anything to anyone but myself. Many major linklists have banned not only the domains but also sites that even have them as links. These domains have been a huge can of worms since I was screwed. Michel has screwed almost everyone that has done business with him and if you truly didn't know there was a problem with these domains, he is trying to screw you too.

If you get a chance, read the story of Ultracash and Jimsmoney again. If I had the extra cash back then, my lawyer and I have no doubt that I would own those domains and would have received a huge settlement. As the story reads, I chose to take care of my family instead of taking what is rightfully mine.

Let him know that we will be watching those domains very closely. If he tries to sell them instead of doing the right thing (handing them over to me), we will make sure the prospective buyer will know the story.

Remember, this was my life's savings. This was my ability to retire before 40. This was a person I trusted with my life. Greed caused him to squander all of that. It will never be forgotten.
I read the story, and totally feel for you - but glad that you're still alive and kicking and taking care of your family. I was in no way affiliated with Michel, can't say I've ever spoken to the guy. Paulin is a customer of mine, and I have done work with him prior to this - when he approached me about these domains, I was drawn to take over that project due to the traffic.

Now having heard and read the story, I won't be buying the domain, nor will I continue my work on them. There are many people in this industry that can confirm my identity of being Andrew from EGONetworks - I can give you all my full contact information as well if it really boils down to it.

I'll move onto working on domains I had prior to all of the these domains, but if I can assist you guys in any way, let me know.
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