CCBill / Loss of Revenue

SmithsMedia · 2005-06-03, 07:41 AM

OK I'm into a full week of this CCBill issue and its effecting what I do big time.

I figure the same issues will apply to others here. For me i cant see any of their pages, from time to time I can though mostly I can not.

This means it must be the the same for our would be customers.

What it has made me realise is that if CCBill were to go tomorrow there is a good chance my business would suffer a great loss.

It's a worry, a real worry :-(

Ramster · 2005-06-03, 07:49 AM

I agree, if ccbill left it would hurt for sure. But that's the case with any major processor. Right now sales are hurting for a lot of people thanks to this DDOS attack and downtime they're having.

It sucks.

tortus32 · 2005-06-03, 07:52 AM

I would think they're fixing the problems asap as it's lost money for them as well, but I wish they would speed it up! I can see my stats fine. What I have to do is click refresh once while the page is loading. If I don't the page never loads.

Uhg.

SmithsMedia · 2005-06-03, 07:56 AM

I getting al kinds of twisted stories, I think this situation should give the Paysite Owners something to think about.

If I had a pay site right now I would be wacking another processor up on 2nd tour and sending the codes to the affiliates so they can change them or not.

This week I feel like I am smashing my head against a brick wall and theres nothing I can do about it

Cleo · 2005-06-03, 08:01 AM

I have CCBill sending me mail each time I have a sale.

Sales with CCBill while down a bit still are doing well for me so maybe it is just their admin being affected, don't know.

We have Epoch as a secondary processor but sales using Epoch have been next to non existent.

SmithsMedia · 2005-06-03, 08:35 AM

The site owners I work withhave seen a decline of between 25 - 45% on their numbers. One of the affiliates I use they were down for a few days so they calculated your average sales and paid you a good will gesture. Unlikely to happen in this situation one feels.

Toby · 2005-06-03, 08:53 AM

CCbill sponsors are about 75% of my monthly income. The last week has been horrific.

ronnie · 2005-06-03, 10:12 AM

Good example of not putting all your eggs in one basket, course kinda hard when so many programs use CCBill. Another reason I wished IBill did'nt go down, least we had another option. I really dont like using some much CCBill myself, just think, if something should happen.

ronnie

SmithsMedia · 2005-06-03, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronnie

Good example of not putting all your eggs in one basket, course kinda hard when so many programs use CCBill. Another reason I wished IBill did'nt go down, least we had another option. I really dont like using some much CCBill myself, just think, if something should happen.

ronnie

Im hearing ya, I wondering about other programmes its just easy to get the money out with ccbill.

Its a chq the is as regular as clockwork, other programmes use limits to restrict ouy payment fees and this effects cash flows.

Ramster · 2005-06-03, 10:23 AM

I have seen sales everyday too actually at ccbill.

Remember now that many cascading sponsors use ccbill too. I would hope most that do probably switched to their other processor as the primary. I know NSCash is using Epoch as the primary and I know NYC Cash uses Paycom & Jettis.

romeoboi · 2005-06-03, 04:04 PM

i dont run a paysite but it seems like this would be the time to get cascading billing and have multiple proccessors in case their problems continue or get worse

I feel your pain though

good luck!

koolkat · 2005-06-03, 04:29 PM

I use ccBill as my primary CC process, and I haven't noticed any problems. My sales numbers have remained about the same through all of this, and even when I got notification of the DDOS attack, I had been on checking my stats and had several sales during that time they were supposed to have been unaccessible. I guess maybe it affects everyone differently!

Qon · 2005-06-04, 11:06 AM

this issue has convinced me to go w/paycom as primary & ccbill as secondary... (sorry ccbill)

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Trev · 2005-06-04, 02:23 PM

umm why? someone could launch a DDOS against paycom just as easily....

Qon · 2005-06-04, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trev

umm why? someone could launch a DDOS against paycom just as easily....

its just a small factor in a short list of reasons. quite frankly, i don't mind which gets the transaction... its more of a preference thing as far is who gets the initial attempt

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ronnie · 2005-06-04, 03:04 PM

Exactly. Not thats it's something CCBill is doing wrong.

ronnie

koolkat · 2005-06-04, 03:25 PM

Yeah... that's like saying that I need to go out and buy a new car because there was a report that someone had car trouble with the same make.
From everything I have heard, people have had better success with ccBill than others like Paycom or Verotel. And like I said, I haven't noticed any problems with them, even with the DDOS attacks.

Cleo · 2005-06-04, 03:24 PM

Been through iBill, CCbill, Paycom. CCBill is the best by far.

Paycom doesn't even show hits or referrals in your stats, just how much you have made.

Jel · 2005-06-04, 03:37 PM

Paycom can show hits, not many owners use that facility though (only one I know of, of the two I use lol)

I agree though, a DDOS attack could hit Paycom as easily. For the record, my ccbill stats are within the average range I normally have.

2005-06-03, 07:41 AM	#1
SmithsMedia The poster formally known as NOCHEXContact Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beverley, UK Posts: 1,019	CCBill / Loss of Revenue OK I'm into a full week of this CCBill issue and its effecting what I do big time. I figure the same issues will apply to others here. For me i cant see any of their pages, from time to time I can though mostly I can not. This means it must be the the same for our would be customers. What it has made me realise is that if CCBill were to go tomorrow there is a good chance my business would suffer a great loss. It's a worry, a real worry :-( __________________ Porno Subscription >> Submit Free Sites >> Recip Codes

2005-06-03, 07:49 AM	#2
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	I agree, if ccbill left it would hurt for sure. But that's the case with any major processor. Right now sales are hurting for a lot of people thanks to this DDOS attack and downtime they're having. It sucks. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-06-03, 07:52 AM	#3
tortus32 A little nonsense, now and then, is relished by the wisest men Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Montague, NJ Posts: 628	I would think they're fixing the problems asap as it's lost money for them as well, but I wish they would speed it up! I can see my stats fine. What I have to do is click refresh once while the page is loading. If I don't the page never loads. Uhg. __________________ TrafficHolder.com - Buy/Sell Adult Traffic

2005-06-03, 07:56 AM	#4
SmithsMedia The poster formally known as NOCHEXContact Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beverley, UK Posts: 1,019	I getting al kinds of twisted stories, I think this situation should give the Paysite Owners something to think about. If I had a pay site right now I would be wacking another processor up on 2nd tour and sending the codes to the affiliates so they can change them or not. This week I feel like I am smashing my head against a brick wall and theres nothing I can do about it __________________ Porno Subscription >> Submit Free Sites >> Recip Codes

2005-06-03, 08:01 AM	#5
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	I have CCBill sending me mail each time I have a sale. Sales with CCBill while down a bit still are doing well for me so maybe it is just their admin being affected, don't know. We have Epoch as a secondary processor but sales using Epoch have been next to non existent. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-06-03, 08:35 AM	#6
SmithsMedia The poster formally known as NOCHEXContact Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beverley, UK Posts: 1,019	The site owners I work withhave seen a decline of between 25 - 45% on their numbers. One of the affiliates I use they were down for a few days so they calculated your average sales and paid you a good will gesture. Unlikely to happen in this situation one feels. __________________ Porno Subscription >> Submit Free Sites >> Recip Codes

2005-06-03, 08:53 AM	#7
Toby Lonewolf Internet Sales Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 4,826	CCbill sponsors are about 75% of my monthly income. The last week has been horrific. __________________ Latex Vixens Babes In Boots Well Heeled Women Dressing For Sex Stocking Vixens

2005-06-03, 10:12 AM	#8
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Good example of not putting all your eggs in one basket, course kinda hard when so many programs use CCBill. Another reason I wished IBill did'nt go down, least we had another option. I really dont like using some much CCBill myself, just think, if something should happen. ronnie

2005-06-03, 10:23 AM	#10
Ramster Life is good Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ottawa, Canada Posts: 11,867	I have seen sales everyday too actually at ccbill. Remember now that many cascading sponsors use ccbill too. I would hope most that do probably switched to their other processor as the primary. I know NSCash is using Epoch as the primary and I know NYC Cash uses Paycom & Jettis. __________________ Pornstar Legends \| Live Cam Model Shows \| Hungarian Girls Skype: robmurray999

2005-06-03, 04:04 PM	#11
romeoboi Lord help me, I'm just not that bright Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 103	i dont run a paysite but it seems like this would be the time to get cascading billing and have multiple proccessors in case their problems continue or get worse I feel your pain though good luck! __________________ Promote DESPERATELY HORNY HOUSEWIVES Part of Adult Players Club!

2005-06-03, 04:29 PM	#12
koolkat Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SC Posts: 401	I use ccBill as my primary CC process, and I haven't noticed any problems. My sales numbers have remained about the same through all of this, and even when I got notification of the DDOS attack, I had been on checking my stats and had several sales during that time they were supposed to have been unaccessible. I guess maybe it affects everyone differently! __________________ Harry Beaver's Lodge

2005-06-04, 11:06 AM	#13
Qon The only guys who wear Hawaiian shirts are gay guys and big fat party animals Join Date: May 2005 Location: HELL Posts: 170	this issue has convinced me to go w/paycom as primary & ccbill as secondary... (sorry ccbill) ... __________________ OP Links \| Webmaster Programs \| Thailand Dream Vacation Tour -

2005-06-04, 02:23 PM	#14
Trev Is it over already? Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: the beautiful shores of Lake Erie Posts: 890	umm why? someone could launch a DDOS against paycom just as easily.... __________________ Hey buddy... can you spare a sig?

2005-06-04, 03:04 PM	#16
ronnie Wheither you think you can or you think you can't, Your right. Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: midwest Posts: 2,274	Exactly. Not thats it's something CCBill is doing wrong. ronnie

2005-06-04, 03:25 PM	#17
koolkat Remember to rebel against the authorities, kids! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SC Posts: 401	Yeah... that's like saying that I need to go out and buy a new car because there was a report that someone had car trouble with the same make. From everything I have heard, people have had better success with ccBill than others like Paycom or Verotel. And like I said, I haven't noticed any problems with them, even with the DDOS attacks. __________________ Harry Beaver's Lodge

2005-06-04, 03:24 PM	#18
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Been through iBill, CCbill, Paycom. CCBill is the best by far. Paycom doesn't even show hits or referrals in your stats, just how much you have made. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-06-04, 03:37 PM	#19
Jel I'm the only guy in the world who has to wake up to have a nightmare Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: London, United Kingdom Posts: 1,895	Paycom can show hits, not many owners use that facility though (only one I know of, of the two I use lol) I agree though, a DDOS attack could hit Paycom as easily. For the record, my ccbill stats are within the average range I normally have.