Florida's new gun laws

spookyx · 2005-10-04, 04:02 PM

florida

Does this mean Cleo can shoot UW if he comes to visit?

RawAlex · 2005-10-04, 04:07 PM

I just love it... a clear reason not to go to internext in miami next year. The way I read it, you can be shot just for raising your voice or calling someone an idiot (and trust me, miami has it's share of idiots).

I expect the death rate in Florida to shoot off the scope once someone gets away with it once.

Alex

Cleo · 2005-10-04, 04:12 PM

It's just fucked up beyond belief.

Florida has also ruled that employers can not stop workers from bringing guns to work.

Just plain fucked up.

ArtWilliams · 2005-10-04, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

It's just fucked up beyond belief.

Florida has also ruled that employers can not stop workers from bringing guns to work.

Just plain fucked up.

The employers part I just don't get. That means that the right to bear arms is greater than a person's right to private property? Doesn't the owner of the business have the right deny access to those people he does not want and ensure a safe work place? This is sooo out of wack.

So now people can walk around with concealed weapons and shoot people that THEY perceive to be a threat? I can tell from a Canadian perspective this looks crazy. BTW, if I make threatening remarks at Disneyworld, will I get wacked? LOL!!

--art

spookyx · 2005-10-04, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artwilliams

BTW, if I make threatening remarks at Disneyworld, will I get wacked? LOL!!

--art

I guess if the guy in the mickey mouse costume has his gun permit, the answer is yes

DJilla · 2005-10-06, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by artwilliams
BTW, if I make threatening remarks at Disneyworld, will I get wacked? LOL!!
[/quote]

Many years ago there was a notorious, drunk, right wing, Texas Senator named John Hightower. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan to be Defense Sec.

In one of his early press conferences, reporters were asking him hard questions on what was then called "star wars" or SDI, or something about that space shield garbage.

In a testy reply he said that an "American public that worshipped a rat" (referring to Mickey Mouse ) was not up to understanding the technical issues involed with modern defense.

Later that week, his private jet took a noise dive straight into a remote forest. From that moment forward I learned to be very, very, afraid of citicizing anything with the word Disney in it.

By the by; gun ownership should be encouraged not to protect against an overly aggressive government run amuck, but for the inevitable battle with the aliens who are on their way at light speed.

Surfn · 2005-10-04, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

It's just fucked up beyond belief.

Florida has also ruled that employers can not stop workers from bringing guns to work.

Just plain fucked up.

Does this mean that Priests can have guns in their churches? Sounds like a movie "Armed and Dangerous Confessionals"

Leon · 2005-10-04, 04:27 PM

wow thats sound scary , minimum wage employee with a gun

Torn Rose · 2005-10-04, 05:33 PM

Actually the law says the employee has the right to have a gun in his car in the employer’s parking lot, not actually to carry it at work.

SirMoby · 2005-10-04, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Torn

Actually the law says the employee has the right to have a gun in his car in the employer’s parking lot, not actually to carry it at work.

I've always thought that guns should be left in cars where they can be easily stolen. That's a good idea that I'm sure the gun makers and gangs love!

Cleo · 2005-10-04, 05:40 PM

Should make car pooling much more interesting.

Yeah that is what I want doing construction in my neighborhood… a whole work site of construction workers with guns in their trucks having some after work beers.

Should do wonders for rush hour road rage.

docholly · 2005-10-04, 06:06 PM

Hey i read that Jeb's youngest son got picked up for DUI and something else.. do you thinking he was out drinking with uncle Dubya??

|cool|

Torn Rose · 2005-10-04, 06:17 PM

You heard wrong Holly.... GOP and relatives of, do no wrong.... unless they are gay.

Cleo · 2005-10-04, 07:33 PM

South Florida has multiple shootings ever day already.

I myself have been a shooting victim.

These new laws are just so fucked up.

DJilla · 2005-10-05, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

South Florida has multiple shootings ever day already.
I myself have been a shooting victim.
These new laws are just so fucked up.

Sub Titled: Guns Don't Kill People. Bullets Do!

First off... Cleo, I'm very sorry for your experience, I know it must have been terrifying and you have every reason to hate the idea of guns everywhere. I have more than a few acquaintances that have been shot, and even killed (I'm in Chicago now, lots of gangs, lots of guns) and I dated an ER doctor so I know the trouble that a gunshot causes all the way up and down a family line. I am very sympathetic to your feelings. I just wanted to say that first so that my comments below don't seem callous.

If I could just say one thing about this and Florida (I'm really only just trying to add to my post totals really quick). I'm originally from Florida and it is a fabulous place to go and have fun especially on the Gulf Coast.

The gun thing isn't as big a deal as all the press made it out to be. Yeah, its a little extreme on the concealed side but not for Floridians. The reason is that everyone already had a gun anyway and most carried it. Most jurisdictions just required that the clip not be in it when you transport and it wasn't uncommon at all to see shop owners, etc. walking around strapped. The first thing you did when you got pulled over for speeding or whatever is say "hello officer, just want to let you know I have 9mm Gat in the glovebox and cruise missle in the trunk". He'd go "Oh' ok thanks for letting me know. Insurance and registration please". There is a gun shop in almost every strip mall up and down the trail. The funny affect that it has is that usually everyone is immensely polite to everyone else and you never have an argument at a four way stop sign. |blowkiss|

Criminals... that's another matter and no law will ever really change that though the feds are trying with extremely long sentences for felons that use a gun in commission of a crime AND they are really starting to prosecute them in bulk.

Wazza · 2005-10-05, 09:25 PM

You gun nuts just don't get it... come to a place where basically no one owns or has access to a gun and you'll get it eventually

Look at the statistics - the causes of death - the homicide rates - and you might get it

Yes murder and crime is a part of a big matrix of causes and counter balances - we've got social problems too - but when someone cracks they generally don't have a lethal weapon at their side...

porndragon · 2005-10-05, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wazza

You gun nuts just don't get it... come to a place where basically no one owns or has access to a gun and you'll get it eventually

Look at the statistics - the causes of death - the homicide rates - and you might get it

Yes murder and crime is a part of a big matrix of causes and counter balances - we've got social problems too - but when someone cracks they generally don't have a lethal weapon at their side...

Everyone almost in my redneck state of WV has a gun and only shootings to take place in my town was 1 guy sdhot another in self defense now the second shooting was the same guy only this time with the cops as his target not uncommon here to see gun racks in trucks and hear shooting all hours of the night but hardly anyone hurt and noone died in either shooting. Also mine is a state where you drive a backroad in hunting season and see 10 hunters per every 10 miles walking with A 30.0.6 over their shoulder and noone is dead.. Also refuse to see where the statistics you reffer to lay california is one of the toughest countries on gun laws something like 37 pages in my book i think and has one of the highest homicide rates and gang violence rates in the country..

Surfn · 2005-10-05, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndragon

Everyone almost in my redneck state of WV has a gun and only shootings to take place in my town was 1 guy sdhot another in self defense now the second shooting was the same guy only this time with the cops as his target not uncommon here to see gun racks in trucks and hear shooting all hours of the night but hardly anyone hurt and noone died in either shooting. Also mine is a state where you drive a backroad in hunting season and see 10 hunters per every 10 miles walking with A 30.0.6 over their shoulder and noone is dead.. Also refuse to see where the statistics you reffer to lay california is one of the toughest countries on gun laws something like 37 pages in my book i think and has one of the highest homicide rates and gang violence rates in the country..

You have your facts all screwed up. For one thing Wazza isn't from California. For another not everyone is as gun crazed as you.

SirMoby · 2005-10-04, 07:57 PM

I'd like to read the actual law but I'm concerned that if I demand to see the law that Cleo can shoot me the next time she sees me. That makes her threatening to me so maybe I can shoot her. Hmmm.......

porndragon · 2005-10-04, 08:46 PM

Personally I think you guys are overreacting the multiple shootings that took place before this law were criminals all this law says is the citizen who would be shot by the criminal in the past can now shoot the criminal given a few will use this to become criminals but should work out better in the long run if the public is threatened by death for attacking someone then seems only fit that the public will behave also the article you posted is from a totally anti gun viewpoint and the quotes you are reading do not necessarily reflect the acctual law itself. I believe in the saying better armed citizens mean better behaved criminals but then again I am pro gun and a licensed C&R by the ATF. And newsflash but there is always a self defense plea in all states for shooting someone this is no different here where I live a guy beat up another guy who in turn shot him 7 times and got off on self defense because he was threatened this is no different. The shouting and yelling I believe will not be a sufficient enough reson to shoot someone and will be sorted out in the court system. Just don't overeact from reading a anti gun viewpoint according to most of these the ban that went out a year or two ago meant world war 3 and it has yet to happen most of them missread the laws simple fact of the matter with the ban was you could always get banned items during the ban if they were manufactured prior to the ban. Just my view point don't overreact to my points either.

seven · 2005-10-04, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by porndragon

Just don't overeact from reading a anti gun viewpoint

there is a poll on that page and
from 25749 people 14460 feel less safe now (56%)

Cleo · 2005-10-04, 09:25 PM

Today
Man shot outside W. Boca temple during Rosh Hashanah service
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

Yesterday
Two arrested after man is shot to death outside Pompano strip club
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4021074.story

Should do wonders for our tourist economy
Fla. Tourists Warned on Deadly Force Law
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...,2518482.story

Companies can't keep employees from bringing guns to work
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,5537520.story

We just need more guns. Maybe force everyone to carry at least one gun. That should make it much safer for everyone.

porndragon · 2005-10-04, 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleo

Today
Man shot outside W. Boca temple during Rosh Hashanah service
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines

Yesterday
Two arrested after man is shot to death outside Pompano strip club
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4021074.story

Should do wonders for our tourist economy
Fla. Tourists Warned on Deadly Force Law
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...,2518482.story

Companies can't keep employees from bringing guns to work
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,5537520.story

We just need more guns. Maybe force everyone to carry at least one gun. That should make it much safer for everyone.

The problem isn't to many or not enough guns it is that criminals get the best guns threw illegal channels and citizens don't have the force to stop them just think back threw history ancient times everyone carried spears and swords and for the most part crime was down. When guns are banned only criminals have guns. Think bank robberies would happen if the tellers had guns? Same goes for almost every crime criminals when met with citizen force don't stand a chance. Guns don't kill people people kill people and most in this country would rather not kill but be protected.

Surfn · 2005-10-04, 09:57 PM

I'm beginning to wonder if I live on the same planet as some of you

seven · 2005-10-05, 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by porndragon

The problem isn't to many or not enough guns it is that criminals get the best guns threw illegal channels and citizens don't have the force to stop them just think back threw history ancient times everyone carried spears and swords and for the most part crime was down. When guns are banned only criminals have guns. Think bank robberies would happen if the tellers had guns? Same goes for almost every crime criminals when met with citizen force don't stand a chance. Guns don't kill people people kill people and most in this country would rather not kill but be protected.

When i want to shoot someone i play counter-strike...it's much safer

..now serious I don't think it's a good ideea to give guns to everybody...There are a lot of dumb asses out there and the only thing they need is a gun...

2005-10-04, 04:02 PM	#1
spookyx Kodak Ghosts Run Amok Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Hobbs End Posts: 1,718	Florida's new gun laws florida Does this mean Cleo can shoot UW if he comes to visit?

2005-10-04, 04:12 PM	#3
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	It's just fucked up beyond belief. Florida has also ruled that employers can not stop workers from bringing guns to work. Just plain fucked up. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-10-06, 10:35 AM	#6
DJilla You can now put whatever you want in this space :) Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 525	Caution! Don't Mess With The Rat! Originally Posted by artwilliams BTW, if I make threatening remarks at Disneyworld, will I get wacked? LOL!! [/quote] Many years ago there was a notorious, drunk, right wing, Texas Senator named John Hightower. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan to be Defense Sec. In one of his early press conferences, reporters were asking him hard questions on what was then called "star wars" or SDI, or something about that space shield garbage. In a testy reply he said that an "American public that worshipped a rat" (referring to Mickey Mouse ) was not up to understanding the technical issues involed with modern defense. Later that week, his private jet took a noise dive straight into a remote forest. From that moment forward I learned to be very, very, afraid of citicizing anything with the word Disney in it. By the by; gun ownership should be encouraged not to protect against an overly aggressive government run amuck, but for the inevitable battle with the aliens who are on their way at light speed. __________________ Submit Free Sites, Blogs, Movies, TGP's, Triple XXX Info

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2005-10-04, 05:40 PM	#11
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Should make car pooling much more interesting. Yeah that is what I want doing construction in my neighborhood… a whole work site of construction workers with guns in their trucks having some after work beers. Should do wonders for rush hour road rage. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-10-04, 04:07 PM	#2
RawAlex Took the hint. Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,597	I just love it... a clear reason not to go to internext in miami next year. The way I read it, you can be shot just for raising your voice or calling someone an idiot (and trust me, miami has it's share of idiots). I expect the death rate in Florida to shoot off the scope once someone gets away with it once. Alex

2005-10-04, 05:33 PM	#9
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	Actually the law says the employee has the right to have a gun in his car in the employer’s parking lot, not actually to carry it at work.

2005-10-04, 06:06 PM	#12
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2005-10-04, 06:17 PM	#13
Torn Rose "Faith is believing what you know ain't so." ~ Mark Twain Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 4,806	You heard wrong Holly.... GOP and relatives of, do no wrong.... unless they are gay.

2005-10-04, 07:33 PM	#14
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	South Florida has multiple shootings ever day already. I myself have been a shooting victim. These new laws are just so fucked up. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-10-05, 09:25 PM	#16
Wazza I'm a jaded evil bastard, I wouldn't piss on myself if I was on fire... Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 808	You gun nuts just don't get it... come to a place where basically no one owns or has access to a gun and you'll get it eventually Look at the statistics - the causes of death - the homicide rates - and you might get it Yes murder and crime is a part of a big matrix of causes and counter balances - we've got social problems too - but when someone cracks they generally don't have a lethal weapon at their side... __________________ I sale Internet My sites have no traffic and no PR - let's trade - PM me

2005-10-04, 07:57 PM	#19
SirMoby Jim? I heard he's a dirty pornographer. Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 2,706	I'd like to read the actual law but I'm concerned that if I demand to see the law that Cleo can shoot me the next time she sees me. That makes her threatening to me so maybe I can shoot her. Hmmm.......

2005-10-04, 08:46 PM	#20
porndragon Trying is the first step towards failure Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 129	Personally I think you guys are overreacting the multiple shootings that took place before this law were criminals all this law says is the citizen who would be shot by the criminal in the past can now shoot the criminal given a few will use this to become criminals but should work out better in the long run if the public is threatened by death for attacking someone then seems only fit that the public will behave also the article you posted is from a totally anti gun viewpoint and the quotes you are reading do not necessarily reflect the acctual law itself. I believe in the saying better armed citizens mean better behaved criminals but then again I am pro gun and a licensed C&R by the ATF. And newsflash but there is always a self defense plea in all states for shooting someone this is no different here where I live a guy beat up another guy who in turn shot him 7 times and got off on self defense because he was threatened this is no different. The shouting and yelling I believe will not be a sufficient enough reson to shoot someone and will be sorted out in the court system. Just don't overeact from reading a anti gun viewpoint according to most of these the ban that went out a year or two ago meant world war 3 and it has yet to happen most of them missread the laws simple fact of the matter with the ban was you could always get banned items during the ban if they were manufactured prior to the ban. Just my view point don't overreact to my points either. __________________ Dave's Porn Links

2005-10-04, 09:25 PM	#22
Cleo Subversive filth of the hedonistic decadent West Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Southeast Florida Posts: 27,936	Today Man shot outside W. Boca temple during Rosh Hashanah service http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...home-headlines Yesterday Two arrested after man is shot to death outside Pompano strip club http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,4021074.story Should do wonders for our tourist economy Fla. Tourists Warned on Deadly Force Law http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nat...,2518482.story Companies can't keep employees from bringing guns to work http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...,5537520.story We just need more guns. Maybe force everyone to carry at least one gun. That should make it much safer for everyone. __________________ Free Rides on Uber and Lyft Uber Car: uberTzTerri Lyft Car: TZ896289

2005-10-04, 09:57 PM	#24
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