.xxx Comments ???

[SirMoby]

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

I was hoping to see a number of the more organised thinkers here sending comments about .xxx but I haven't seen any. I posted mine and I think that any comment that's well thought out, avoids anger and is written in a professional manner (spell checking) could only help the cause. Of course comments written in an unprofessional manner may not help.

If you want to help send comments to xxx-tld-agreement@icann.org

[RawAlex]

Robert Smith seems to be the only one supporting it on there... he does seem like quite a dip.

Alex

[SirMoby]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Robert Smith seems to be the only one supporting it on there... he does seem like quite a dip.

Alex

Jennifer Andersen is also in support but doesn't seem to understand the concept will fail and fail badly.

[juggernaut]

read your post and also sent a mail for my own post. I agree with you that the features that already come with most broswers is a good way to go. What I would like to see is a reversal in how these browser work. Right now, stright out of the box you can surf porn with them, it would just be so much easier if they restricted everything right off the bat. First time you run your browser, you get a wizard that you must complete in order to surf. The interface would allow you to shut off the restricted sites, not turn it on as it would already be on. No need for a parent to do anything after that other then hit next.

[Ms Naughty]

Damn, I forgot all about that, got distracted by other things. Thanks for the reminder SirMoby.

LOL I just noticed this email:
# 2006 Apr 26

* PLS GET BACK TO ME. Fayad W. Bolkiah,

Yep, it's a Nigerian who seems to have an awful lot of money.

[tickler]

I like this guy:
As a father I am very concerned about .xxx consequenses - Anders Pedersen
Honestly, if protecting children is the goal, then .xxx is short thinking and not the answer! The problem is not the legit adult sites, but too many parents do not have the technical knowledge to install a simple thing as a software. Instead of spending time and money on something that will only create new problems for us responsible parents and the schools, the government should spend more time and money on teaching parents and schools how to protect their children. And maybe cooperate with the legit part of the adult business, instead of trying to control which is impossible globally. That is the only way!

Okay, so they have another thread also.
http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-comments/threads.html

PS: Did anybody read down far enough to see this???
2006 Apr 26 - PLS GET BACK TO ME - Fayad W. Bolkiah,

[RawAlex]

Apparently there must be some sort of an annoying mail in campaign going on:

I am opposed to the establishment of the triple X domain. You should be working to get pornography off the Internet, not putting more on it!

About half the posts have the same message in them.

Alex

[lorsha]

Originally Posted by RawAlex

Apparently there must be some sort of an annoying mail in campaign going on:



About half the posts have the same message in them.

Alex

Took them a long time to give that reply though ..... since they were of course, surfing porn themselves....

[Ms Naughty]

The loony mail campaign is all dated August 16 2005. Perhaps that's an old page? At least those of us who are speaking against the tld have reasoned arguments behind us.

I've posted mine, it's not showing up yet.

[Ms Naughty]

They haven't posted up my email yet... wonder what's happened? Perhaps I should try again.

[RawAlex]

They send you a confirmation mail, you have to follow and click "yes", and then it takes hours / days to get it actually up there.

It is truly NOT intereactive.

Alex

[juggernaut]

God Alex your like a legal master. You can argue with the best of them, did you have debate class or something? I was reading the one post for and then right after yours jumps against lol. Man it just great. BTW the posts seem to be 1 day. I posted on the 3rd and it was posted the 4th.

[juggernaut]

Ok I take that back. well you argue very well but from another post of his he states he was making fun of agreeing with .xxx.

[Ms Naughty]

I found the confirm email, sent it off. Will see how long it takes now

[nekrom]

I submitted my brief opnion, confimed linky and it was up in a few hours on a sat arvo.

-N

[docholly]

Grandma..you've been up for a while..before Alex's post.

[Papa]

F*CK THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

I've been online since late 96
This is not good at all

Creating an internet porn ghetto so it can be more manipulated/controlled

This is damn bad !

They just can't ban .com or .net domains
.xxx of course they can
I'm talking about countries that could ban or control access to .xxx domains

[RawAlex]

Sadly, even with all of our comments in there, the reality is more than likely profit motivation.

ICANN is looking at taking in millions of additional dollars by selling .XXX domains that they know will get purchased in large numbers, even though much if it will be a combination of speculators and people attempting to protect existing .com properties.

Further, it will allow the group IFFOR to generate tens of millions of dollars each year to finance it's operations - for something that should come from the ground roots up, not from the top down.

Combining a TLD with a non-profit "how to work on the web group" creates huge issues in regard to things like freedom of speech, the good old "who decided this for me", and would very quickly allow extremely conservative people to dictate "best policies" to the group. Remember, if you don't adhere to the policies of this group, your .XXX domain will be revoked.

So beyond all the bad points of .XXX from a purely logical standpoint, this overwhelming and overpowering organization hanging over it is even worse, and adds another level of potential and probably manipulation from anti-porn groups.

It is a fuck from the word go, and It isn't going to stop any time soon.

Even the US government, which desperately is trying to fuck up the porn business doesn't want this.

Alex

[cosmiccat]

I also sent them an email simply stating that I opposed the .xxx TLD and I confirmed the confirmation email they sent. Obviously, this isn't going to go away anytime soon.

[BigKid]

http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/xinfo.htm

[BigKid]

This is the last weekend that you can make your voice heard in opposition to the creation of the .xxx TLD.

xxx-tld-agreement@icann.org

* Send an email to ICANN
* It does not have to be a long letter.
* You can just say "I oppose the creation of the .xxx TLD - We dont need it. "

The emails are posted to a forum here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

The creation of the .xxx may be the fist step in limiting access to our sites and the actual taking of our rights to our .com names.

This is important. Please take 2 minutes to send an email and then click the verify link you will receive to have your vote counted against .xxx .

Thank you.

[Surfn]

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...ad.php?t=31239

[DJilla]

Originally Posted by BigKid

This is the last weekend that you can make your voice heard in opposition to the creation of the .xxx TLD.

xxx-tld-agreement@icann.org

* Send an email to ICANN
* It does not have to be a long letter.
* You can just say "I oppose the creation of the .xxx TLD - We dont need it. "

The emails are posted to a forum here

http://forum.icann.org/lists/xxx-tld-agreement/

Been busy this week and hand'nt been keeping up with this thread...
Ijust sent my email, hope it wasn't too late, seemed like the thread was still going. This is what I sent:


It will be helpful for many people who are in favor of .XXX to consider the bigger picture and take the long view. Of course everybody wants to shelter our children and still allow them the power at their finger tips of the internet for learning and socialization. Always remain cognizant that today's children are far smarter and more sophisticated than ever before (in the developed countries anyways) and in every matter we really have to adjust our approach to this fact. That being said…

.xxx is a horrible idea that should be killed forever for one overarching reason…. and that is because it introduces an officially sanctioned censorship mechanism into the net. The point that it won’t work technically is secondary and it won’t work because the law breakers, spammers, and predators will do what they like anyway. It will be a mess because a whole industry will grow up around “WHAT” is truly ADULT and belongs on .xxx initiating endless arguments, confusion, lawsuits, and the like. It will also largely be IGNORED by adult WM’s who will buy their .xxx domain without giving up their others anyway. Any of the “smart kids” one is trying to protect will quickly learn were to find ALL of the BAD STUFF MY PARENTS DON”T WANT ME TO SEE. Every group of kids 10 and up is likely to have a mini hacker in the bunch who can work circles around parent’s efforts to filter. But these and many, many, other reasons on why .xxx should die are secondary to the primary one I repeat:

.xxx is a horrible idea that should be killed forever for one overarching reason…. because it introduces an officially sanctioned censorship mechanism into the net along with which will ultimately develop some kind of enforcement mechanism and so on. For once people let’s look ahead down the road at the consequence of what we’re proposing. Most everyone is already familiar with many recent cases of large search engines bowing to various country/government pressures and either providing data about its surfers OR restricting data TO its users based on government decree. Citizens everywhere but PARTICULARLY in repressed countries or circumstances have to understand that “governments” are completely FREAKED OUT by the internet in general and are committed to gaining some kind of control over it and are making strident attempts to do so on a regular basis. Governments by their nature hate the ability of its subjects to have all access to each other. They can’t operate the way they do without the ability to play various groups against each other. Even amongst all the spam and bullshit the internet has been the veritable “fountain of truth” in so many internationally known ways. This is because of the “wild west” nature of internet access. “User Beware” is actually a good status to have. A government’s attempt to enlarge its policy of informational control always begins by attacking the “low hanging fruit” such as extreme radical political speech and pornography. It will then slowly enlarge itself. Many international government examples of this already exist for policy examination on the results of censorship and the internet. None of them are positive from a “free thinking” point of view.

For this one single reason (and there are 100’s more) the .xxx domain should die a permanent death along with any other “mandated” .extension that ever comes along.

On the other hand .kid domain is a wonderful idea and could become the “fountain of development” for all children around the world. Filters can easily be rigged to operate on only a single domain. A .kid domain would be a market rich opportunity for commerce to develop sites of entertaining, beneficial, content rich nature at all price points from subscription to free (imagine all the public domain education software in one single directory?). A .kid domain would truly create an attractive industry OVERNIGHT. If children and access to pornography and other harmful material on the internet is the question then addressing that by giving children THEIR OWN unique, protected, easily monitored space seems only like the most reasonable conclusion. Doesn’t it? Of course it does. Kill .xxx Raise .kid


DJilla

[babymaker]

here is my response to ICANN, let me know how it is:

As a business owner and internet surfer as well as a parent, I must object to the proposed formation by ICANN of the .XXX TLD. The .XXX TLD will not provide any further protection than is already in place, from various freely available parental control software programs, to keep children away from mature themed content, pornographic or otherwise, it will only start the internet as a whole on a slippery slope of unnecessary censorship and governmental control. In addition to unwanted censorship, the proposed .XXX TLD will also unfairly target a legitimate business that has diligently since its inception fought against the victimization of children, namely though industry funded organizations that seek out child predators and child pornographers and work with authorities in adding there capture and ultimate prosecution.

A more viable alternative to the proposed .XXX TLD would be to implement the formation of a .KIDS TLD, which would be regulated at the registration level, preventing any interest or organization from purchasing and using a .KIDS domain name for anything other than a web site gear towards children’s education and entertainment.

In conclusion, I would like to point out that never was the internet intended for children, or to be used as a child’s unmonitored “babysitter”, the internet is a microcosm of the world itself and therefore is a very dangerous, but exciting place to explore and learn as well as interact with various culture’s and to do business. By starting the slippery slope of internet censorship regulated by governmental bodies, opposed to self-censorship started in the home or by the individual themselves, we will find ourselves collectively with an internet that no one, myself included will want to visit!

Sincerely,

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[tickler]

Why .XXX(actually .SEX when it was written in 2004) is a bad ideal from the legal, philosophical, and particularly, the technical points of view.
http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3675.txt

Long read but they end up with sorta suggesting a PICS like labeling scheme.