Domain penalized by Yahoo! ?

[Fonz]

One of my main domains seems to be penalized by Yahoo (smilingpussylinks.com) I don't know why or when this has happened, only the first page shows up ok when searching for the domain, all the rest shows up very weird.
Can anyone verify it's really penalized? And is there a way I can get it back on the ok list again if it is?

Please let me know.

[Bill]

I think you probably have the fairly well known yahoo linklist penalty, which is a risk for all linklists in yahoo.

No-one knows for sure how it works, but my guess is that it's an actual 'manual' list, to which linklists and certain other types of sites are added manually. There's probably some sort of algo filter that looks for sites that have certain linklists like characteristics, and every once in a while a new batch of domains are manually added to a blacklist, which then limits the number and type of pages that are likely to show up in the yahoo serp.

I say that because 'smiling pussy' is a quite unique keyphrase, but a search for 'smiling pussy' doesn't show your domain in the first few serp pages, altho your domain looks to have 24k incoming links.

But it would be interesting to hear if anyone else has an opinion on the subject.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Fonz

One of my main domains seems to be penalized by Yahoo (smilingpussylinks.com) I don't know why or when this has happened, only the first page shows up ok when searching for the domain, all the rest shows up very weird.

What does that mean, "shows up very weird"? And are talking about a normal search or a site: search?

Yahoo mangled their search results on July 13/14 with a new anti-spam algorithm and their index is now beginning to recover. They had dropped one my domains from just under 5,000 indexed pages down to around 200. It's back up to over 3,000, but most of the results show the page URL in the title field instead of the page's title. (cocksuckers)

With anything SE, I sit, I wait, and I see what happens. While my shitty lists slowly improve in the SEs, I find it difficult to worry about hypothesized penalties of any kind.

[Bill]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

It's back up to over 3,000, but most of the results show the page URL in the title field instead of the page's title. (cocksuckers)

Am I correct in thinking thats what you see with the site: search or siteexplorer?

Have you been able to find in the ordinary results those pages showing up with just the url instead of the page title?

[Useless]

Originally Posted by Bill

Am I correct in thinking thats what you see with the site: search or siteexplorer?

Have you been able to find in the ordinary results those pages showing up with just the url instead of the page title?

Whenever I do a site:domain.com - Yahoo forces me to login and the resulting page is that ugly Site Explorer thing which Yahoo claims to be part of a wide array of webmaster tools. Damned if I can figure out what the tools are.

Just the URL instead of page title? What I'm seeing is each page's URL in what would normally be the title field in the results. So I see:

http://www.domain.com/foo/bar.html
Authenticate the site to see additional information
http:/www.domain.com/foo/bar.html

instead of the expected:
Free Foo Bar Porn
Colorful description of my free foo bar porn type stuff.
http:/www.domain.com/foo/bar.html

[Fonz]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

What does that mean, "shows up very weird"? And are talking about a normal search or a site: search?

Just look at this and you'll feel my pain

but most of the results show the page URL in the title field instead of the page's title.

that's what has happened to me too

[Linkster]

At least you have urls in there
Ive been banned by Yahoo since they started doing their own SE over two years ago - check this out - you wont even find a single url in there for me:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=www...=sexp-rd&x=wrt

I actually got a reply from them - as did a few other linklist owners (I remember Hoes was another one) that stated we are link farms and wont be listed

[Fonz]

I see, so most of the BS sites out there get listed but quality LL's won't?
At least I'm in good company

Ah well, moving on...

[Useless]

Yahoo is a link farm. Therefore, our existance threatens them. I dare them to ban me!




I was just kidding, Yahoo. Please don't ban me.

[Bill]

Well, Fonz, if you compare your site in siteexplorer and Linkster's site in siteexplorer, you'll get the good news that you aren't on the yahoo hard ban manual list. (However it works.)

But, clearly yahoo doesn't like something about your site - because, like I said, 'smiling pussy' is an odd enough keyword, that with your 24k inbound links you should absolutely rank high for it in an ordinary search.

One of the theories I've heard is that an algo has taken over the role of the manual list (that presumably Linkster is on). Jay was talking about this idea in one of my serach engine chats. That kinda fits what we see when we look for your site in yahoo search.

But, you pretty much have to accept that yahoo doesn't like linklists and linklist type sites, doesn't want them in their results, and has some way of supressing them.

UW, what type of site is it that you have in there, that you've been mentioning? Is it on a linklist type domain? Or is it a blog or some kind of content domain?

I'm still wondering if we could find out for sure that if a page shows up with just the url listing in site explorer, thats how it looks in the regular serps as well. There's that odd line "authenticate this site to see more" that appears in the siteexplorer listings...

[kenny]

I have the same problem. I recently asked them about this and recieved the following response.

Hello,

Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Search.

It has been determined that your site may not comply with Yahoo!'s
Content Quality Guidelines located at:

http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/ysearc...etions-05.html

Below are some answers to common questions regarding this issue:

Q: What are some of the common reasons that a site may violate Yahoo!'s
Content Policy Guidelines?

A: Yahoo!'s Content Quality Guidelines (link above) outline what we are
and are not looking for in pages that we index. Listed below are some of
the more common reasons that a site may violate these guidelines:

- Cloaking (showing crawlers deceptive content about a site)
- Massive domain interlinking- Use of affiliate programs without the
addition of substantial unique content
- Use of reciprocal link programs (aka "link farms"
- Hidden text
- Excessive keyword repetition

Q: If my site has a judgment against it, can I use the SiteMatch
inclusion program?

A: All pages submitted to SiteMatch are editorially reviewed. If a site
has a judgment against it, it is likely to be rejected by the SiteMatch
program.

Q: If my site has a judgment against it, can I use the Yahoo! Express
directory inclusion program?

A: Yes, the Yahoo! Directory and Yahoo! Search Index are different
systems. Inclusion or exclusion from one does not affect the other.

Q: How can I have my site re-reviewed?

A: Please review our content quality guidelines to make sure that your
site meets all of them. When you feel the site is ready, please complete
the form located at:

http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/us/ysearch/cgi_rereview

requesting a re-review of your site. You may wish to include an
explanation of unique features on your site, or details of changes to
your site's content that may assist our editors in their evaluation.

Please allow several weeks for the review process, YST indexing, and a
complete refresh of the database before checking http://search.yahoo.com
to see if your site is listed in the Yahoo!Search Index. We do not offer
specifics detailing how an individual site is not in compliance with our
guidelines, but we will review your site individually. You will not be
receiving further notification regarding your request for a second
review, and we are not able to offer the option of another review.

Thank you for taking the time to make the Yahoo! Search Index better.

Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Customer Care.

Regards,

Dustin

Yahoo! Customer Care
25664934

[kenny]

My response:

That is a very vague reply.

I have no idea which infraction is taking place.

Is this a manual penalty or a automatic one?

Does this penalty remove it's self if the infraction is corrected?

Can you give me a clue on whats wrong with the site? Besides a list of

possible reasons?

[bluebrit]

I had a domain pulled by yahoo back in november and since then i have gone through the site from top to bottom removing redundant code, checking descriptions to cats and making sure all of the links were valid. No popups exist and there are no viruses either. I re submitted the site for re-inclusion just a couple of days ago and got the same reply

"Hello, Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Search. It has been determined that your site may not comply with Yahoo!'s Content Quality Guidelines located at..." btw yahoo's email did say the site was reviewed manually.

I did have over 500 links on yahoo so the loss sucks but in truth the traffic i got from yahoo was pretty low. I can't do anymore so i'll have to live with it and forget about being listed by yahoo, which to me is no great loss. All the more for google and msn etc.

[pornhitzman]

I see today that penisbot got their domain unbanned from yahoo. Kit, how did you do it?

[oldbrad]

When i originally read this thread i searched yahoo for a couple big sites, penisbot was one of them and saw many listings, so it has been in for a while.

Posssibly it has to do with the number of links per page. Having 1,2,3,4,5, etc pages with listings instead of 1 huge page may possibly be corelated?

[Linkster]

I dont think so - he's always had those extra pages - and has been banned for about as long as most of us

[pornhitzman]

Originally Posted by Linkster

I dont think so - he's always had those extra pages - and has been banned for about as long as most of us

Yepp. It has always been like that.