What is your definition of hardcore?

[Licker4U]

Just curious about the dividing line between softcore and hardcore.

I figure any kind of penetration, cumshot, licking would be hardcore.

Is a solo girl spread leg "pink" shot hardcore?
If she's touching herself, is that?

[Greenguy]

My thinking is that unless a solo girl is doing something very extreme - like a really big dildo or fisting, then it's softcore.

Everything else is hardcore.

[spazlabz]

My working theory is a bit different then most. I generally consider the presence of a penis to be necessary for something to be considered hard core


spaz

[Greenguy]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

My working theory is a bit different then most. I generally consider the presence of a penis to be necessary for something to be considered hard core


spaz

I sorta agree with that, but you have to admit that you can't call self fisting softcore

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Greenie

I sorta agree with that, but you have to admit that you can't call self fisting softcore

Your right on with that Greenie

i'd call it physically impossible for me!!


spaz

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

My working theory is a bit different then most. I generally consider the presence of a penis to be necessary for something to be considered hard core
spaz

If a girl is holding a penis near her face with her hand, but mouth closed. Hardcore?

[ponygirl]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

If a girl is holding a penis near her face with her hand, but mouth closed. Hardcore?

is the penis flaccid or turgid?

LOL sorry, couldn't resist

seriously, it would depend on the rest of the set. Is it just one pic with a dick? I'd have to see the set, but generally to me softcore is solo stuff.

[spazlabz]

Originally Posted by Licker4U

If a girl is holding a penis near her face with her hand, but mouth closed. Hardcore?

to me, yes, esp if it is an image because the pictures that follow are going to be much more interesting

but just the single pic of a girl holding one near her face constitutes hardcore for me

let me elaborate a bit.

a girl sitting alone in her room playing with a toy may be hot, but introduce a penis into her hand and it changes the entire dynamic of the image. to me, and just to me now, that consitutes a hard core image.


spaz

[Ms Naughty]

Originally Posted by spazlabz

My working theory is a bit different then most. I generally consider the presence of a penis to be necessary for something to be considered hard core

Not if it's a solo male.

Although if he's got a hardon, it may be hardcore

In Australia, the official rules in terms of what is "unrestricted" in porn mags:
Boobs, ass, flaccid penises and a closed pussy.

If any pink (or an erection) is showing, it gets a restricted label and cannot be sold to under 18s (and it has to be wrapped in plastic here in Queensland).

Thus, the intrepid Photoshop guys at Hustler are in the habit of cutting off protruding inner labia or sealing the whole thing shut so she doesn't have a slit.

And the editors of Australian Women's Forum would get out the protractor to measure the angle of their male model's cocks.

Our censorship system is weird. But I find myself going along with it when it comes to what I see was softcore and hardcore. I'm trying to overcome that

[stuveltje]

mmm soft core for me is, showing a bit of tit, even a bit of butt, can be showing a part of pussy, but surely not an open twat thats not softcore fo me, now i am thinking what the hell it is then...........oh i know again teen or mature or babe or amateur, hardcore is for me mmmmm all where there is a dick, a toy or a fist or whatever is involved putted in one of the holes which a girl has...i think...damn i should take some english lessons

[Cleo]

At least ten people and a very large vat of Crisco.

[Toby]

"I can't define it, but I know it when I see it."

[Mish]

My best advice to you would be to seek legal advice if you are seriously asking this question...

This debate is ongoing in the industry, and everyone's opinion is different. There are hundreds of threads on this topic, and every one outlines various parameters...

[Licker4U]

Originally Posted by Mish@LVNCash

My best advice to you would be to seek legal advice if you are seriously asking this question...

This debate is ongoing in the industry, and everyone's opinion is different. There are hundreds of threads on this topic, and every one outlines various parameters...

I have some content that shows a little pussy. I was going to submit it to softcore but I wanted to get a general idea if it would be considered hardcore or not. I thought it was softcore but didn't want to get a bunch of rejection e-mails if most considered it hardcore. I think it will fly as soft.

[MrYum]

I've always gone with any kind of penetration or cumshots.

[carol.prime]

softcore for me is something related to a "teaser" kind of thing while hardcore is the banging, sucking, cumming and evrything else follows...|goodidea

[stuveltje]

stiff cock at her face....no softcore well thats just my thinking a slappy cock at her face...maybe she is a nurse and checking all is oke..........its hard to tell, i rememeber when the dutch got their paid movie channel years ago, on saturday nights they would show softcore porn movies on telly, the only thing you saw whwre tits, a bit of ass and a bit of pussy, you wouldnt see hard cocks and definitly no penetration in any hole

[tickler]

No dick, no penentration, maybe sucking a toy, no spread pink!

Originally Posted by stuveltje

stiff cock at her face....no softcore well thats just my thinking a slappy cock at her face...maybe she is a nurse and checking all is oke..........its hard to tell, i rememeber when the dutch got their paid movie channel years ago, on saturday nights they would show softcore porn movies on telly, the only thing you saw whwre tits, a bit of ass and a bit of pussy, you wouldnt see hard cocks and definitly no penetration in any hole

Some of the cable channels run late night soft-porn movies such as Emmanuelle in Space
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuelle_in_Space

A lot of people don't notice that the "Movie Network" runs hard porn movies after midnight. So one of tonights movies is:

Hot Rods
In the fast-paced world of hot rods, the real action takes place between the races.
Starring Avy Scott, Jesse V, Cheyne Collins, Melanie Jagger, Ashley Long, Sharon Wild
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411493/

These are full hardcore movies including Str8 sex, lesbian sex, BJs, toys, anal, and DPs. Weird thing is they never show cumshots????

[VicD]

uhm, it must be hard i quess?

[virgohippy]

Here's my vague description:

When I see content that makes me want more I think softcore. When I see content that reveals significant amounts of eroticism, I think hardcore.

If a solo-girl does a little clit tickling, maybe some pussy spreading, I think softcore. When she putts her fingers into her pussy, or starts moaning and groaning with heavy clit petting, anything that warrants making pleasure faces, then I think hardcore.

With couples: all kinds of kissing and groping, even tender touching of sensative areas, is softcore. When that touching turns into lip bitingly pleasurable sensations, I think hardcore.

[tigermom]

I never quite understood why cumshots are hardcore. A pretty girl, in a pic showing only face and tits, and some yogurt spilled on her, how is that hardcore?

[juggernaut]

I go with the old mag kind of thing. If it's Playboy style (softlights, not much on the sexual compaired to sensual) is softcore. Penthouse is hardcore for me, open pussy, some penitration from cocks, fingers, toys, etc. Hustler is also hardcore. I also take into account the entire image, which says a lot about the niche.