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Old 2008-02-16, 08:55 AM   #1
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Would someone rent these servers?

Hi!

currently I'm thinking of starting a small datacenter in Europe. But before I can start I need to know if someone would rent a server with these specs or why not?

Server 1
  • Intel Pentium D E2160 (1.8Ghz)
  • 512 MB DDR2
  • 80 GB SATA HDD
  • 1x 1000 mbit dedicated network connection
  • 2000 GB datatransfer
  • SuSE Linux 10.2, CentOS, Fedora, FreeBSD, Debian
  • Free reinstalls (24/7, done within a hour)
  • Server hardware failures fixed within a hour
  • Minimum yearly network uptime: 99,7%
  • 39 euros a month

Server 2
  • AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400+ (2,3Ghz)
  • 1 GB DDR2 ECC dual ranked DIMM's
  • 250 GB SATA HDD
  • 1x 1000 mbit dedicated network connection
  • 4000 GB datatransfer
  • SuSE Linux 10.2, CentOS, Fedora, FreeBSD, Debian
  • Free reinstalls (24/7, done within a hour)
  • Server hardware failures fixed within a hour
  • Minimum yearly network uptime: 99,7%
  • 49 euros a month

Please note: this is not an offer, please reply so that I know who want to rent these servers.
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Old 2008-02-16, 09:23 AM   #2
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Your post kind of looks like spam but I can't see how you could have put it without it looking like spam.

I don't think it is the equipment people look for so much as the people running the servers. Unless you find out a year later that you were lied to about the server you were renting

The one question I would have is isn't the percentage of yearly network uptime based on history? If the network is new, how can you claim 99.7% yearly uptime?
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Old 2008-02-16, 10:08 AM   #3
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Your post kind of looks like spam but I can't see how you could have put it without it looking like spam.

I don't think it is the equipment people look for so much as the people running the servers. Unless you find out a year later that you were lied to about the server you were renting

The one question I would have is isn't the percentage of yearly network uptime based on history? If the network is new, how can you claim 99.7% yearly uptime?
Hi Jim,

please explain to me why you think that this is a spam post?

Well the network uptime percentage is based on the uptime percentage of our network provider. They have a 99,98% uptime guarentee. So it's an estimated percentage. The 99,97% stands for 3 hours of unexpected downtime each year.

We have build our network in such a way that if one router or switch fails then the other router or switch (secondary) will take the job. Redundancy
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Old 2008-02-16, 02:52 PM   #4
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I wouldn't rent those servers. I'm fine with the current places I host. The place currently I would go to get a new server if it wasn't with the places I already host would be with National Net.

Just putting up what the boxes are isn't even enough info. Listing prices for bandwidth, who your uplink providers are, etc. would be a start.
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Old 2008-02-16, 08:09 PM   #5
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seems really cheap, but if the service was good then I guess people would rent
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Old 2008-02-18, 04:58 AM   #6
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when shopping for a data center - the actual server package is the last on my list of concerns - any reputable data center can upgrade a server when needed. The real issues are security (physical and network), facility redundancy (power, comm, switches, environmental etc..) - to implement these things properly, it takes hundreds of thousands of dollars - these facility requirements are not flexible in my opinion - Current server technology is changing constantly as are the needs of my sites but facility requirements have not changed significantly in 15 years. I would only lease from a provider that has proper data facilities and can upgrade my server(s) within 24 hours if the need arises.

As for comm failures - most of these will boil down to failures within the facility and not charged to the network provider. Having worked as a network provider for 22 years, these systems are pretty robust - but when your switch fails, and you have no replacement in country (don't laugh - happens every day) your servers will be communicating with nothing. Same goes for power - the wind storms in Central Europe in the late 80's (hell, it was the year I met my ex) took down half the Pfaelzerwald and our power for 9 days - had we not had diesel powered generators and extensive battery backup we would have been dead in the water.

If my service provider was down for 9 days, I'd be looking to kill someone.

Bottom line in my mind - facility trumps server hardware every time and you've mentioned nothing of the facility these "servers" are to be installed in. I can put a better server in my basement for less but my basement is not suited as a data center so I lease for a leading provider so I can sleep at night.

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