What converts better: gays or shemales?

[Gin]

Can you answer what better converts personally for you: gays or shemales?

[ArtWilliams]

Which is better beer or wine?

Originally Posted by Gin

Can you answer what better converts personally for you: gays or shemales?

[Gin]

Originally Posted by artwilliams

Which is better beer or wine?

Actually for me vodka

Really i mean that. Gays do pretty well for me, but i am looking towards shemale market also. Or am i late already and this niche is oversaturated?

[Cleo]

There is a difference?

[ArtWilliams]

After a couple of litres maybe not.

Originally Posted by Cleo

There is a difference?

[MeatPounder]

Actually gay shemales do

[cashgordon]

They are very different niches. So it is about your traffic.

[HowlingWulf]

I read in your sig that gays have the best ratio, so it must be true.

[Gin]

Thanks everybody for replies

Originally Posted by HowlingWulf

I read in your sig that gays have the best ratio, so it must be true.

Yes indeed
Honestly i just want to diversify a bit. To try something else.

[furiousmale]

That would 100% depend on your traffic. Its like saying what promotes better Teen or MILF.

I find it easier to target shemale traffic but thats just me.

[asianslave]

Apparently a lot of guys who are into trannies will get really insulted if you call them gay... They consider themselves straight somehow, despite the fact that they love the cock.

[tigermom]

Gay porn converts better than gays.

The gay community does not like the term "gays" - it's considered borderline derogatory by some. At the very least it shows you're not part of the community and that can make many people stay away from your sites.

The gay market is huge, with many varied niches. For me, gay converts better than shemale, but that's because I have my niches down and I match my traffic and sites. This isn't to say that shemale won't convert just as well, or maybe even better, if you work the niches there properly.

[Maj. Stress]

Originally Posted by tigermom

Gay porn converts better than gays.

The gay community does not like the term "gays" - it's considered borderline derogatory by some. At the very least it shows you're not part of the community and that can make many people stay away from your sites.

The gay market is huge, with many varied niches. For me, gay converts better than shemale, but that's because I have my niches down and I match my traffic and sites. This isn't to say that shemale won't convert just as well, or maybe even better, if you work the niches there properly.

If the gay community is uncomfortable with that "word", what would they prefer to be identified as? I've not heard of this before.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Maj. Stress

If the gay community is uncomfortable with that "word", what would they prefer to be identified as? I've not heard of this before.

Frankly, the queer community would like to be known as people. Who we fuck hasn't got a helluva a lot to do with anything else, as a general rule. It's a heteronormative culture, and frankly, there is a preference that the gender of our bedmate not come into it at all.

From a porn perspective, it's preferred that it be niche specific - lumping it as "gay" isn't technically accurate, anyhow, 'cos you might notice that "gay" is strictly dickly. Where do dykes and genderfuck fall in that binary system? Out in the world away from porn, "gay" encompasses LGBT and all the shades along that spectrum (current generational norms prefer the taking-it-back iterations of historically derogative terminology) - our industry doesn't, as a whole, provide for those gradations, and as such, it's preferred we just leave them the hell alone and let them tell us what the categories are.

If I had my druthers, I'd go w/ who's fucking/ being fucked rather than pigeonhole something like a pretty fluid concept like sexuality.

[nate]

You can pigeonhole me as straight. However, being a libertarian, I dont care what people do with their bodies, and with very few exceptions who or what they do it with. For instance, dont fuck anyone underage or my dogs.

On the other hand, I don't want to give up my verbal shortcuts because it might offend someone. I may give them up for money on web sites, but not for free in general use because I don't want to be part of the decline of our American English language, including it's slang. When we start changing the meaning of words or deleting them outright willy-nilly because they piss someone off, we might just as well put tape over our mouths and shut the fuck. The intellectual and creative level will remain the same, and you wont get bugs in your teeth while riding your hog.

[miz_wright]

Originally Posted by Maj. Stress

If the gay community is uncomfortable with that "word", what would they prefer to be identified as? I've not heard of this before.

Originally Posted by nate

You can pigeonhole me as straight. However, being a libertarian, I dont care what people do with their bodies, and with very few exceptions who or what they do it with. For instance, dont fuck anyone underage or my dogs.

On the other hand, I don't want to give up my verbal shortcuts because it might offend someone. I may give them up for money on web sites, but not for free in general use because I don't want to be part of the decline of our American English language, including it's slang. When we start changing the meaning of words or deleting them outright willy-nilly because they piss someone off, we might just as well put tape over our mouths and shut the fuck. The intellectual and creative level will remain the same, and you wont get bugs in your teeth while riding your hog.

No one's asking anyone to cease using speech that is clear and concise.

Christ, I tend towards one of the foulest mouths I know. Someone did ask a question as to preferred nomenclature; I happened to know and feel confident in speaking up.

Having said that, we DO change language willy-nilly. Language is a constantly evolving thing - particularly American English. It's a living language. 50 years ago, "gay" meant "cheerful and upbeat." "Faggot" meant "bundle of sticks" and "dyke" was something that held back water.

Don't get your knickers in a twist. No one's asking you to stop using the word "gay." But if you want to market to that community, it helps to know where the collective consciousness is.

Also, if you want to discuss the decline of the English language, I would strongly suggest looking into the differences of it's vs. its, as they likewise are not interchangeable. ^.^

[growers]

dont know yet we just open our asian shemale site

[kickass]

In my experience, trannies convert better... but that's my traffic.

[tickler]

Maleshes

[flip.green]

The 2 niches are 100% different shemales don't consider themselves gay, and the surfers who like shemale porn don't either. You have to remember transgender actually refers to a place inbetween the sexes. On the other hand you also have crossdressers which often consider themselves different as well. As to which does better, I am biased but supply and demand dictates promoting shemales may be the winner.

[Cleo]

My number one all time converting content was a 6 foot hot blonde shemale fucking a 3 foot dwarf. Surfers love strange unusual stuff.

[MeatPounder]

Originally Posted by Cleo

My number one all time converting content was a 6 foot hot blonde shemale fucking a 3 foot dwarf. Surfers love strange unusual stuff.

But that was mostly because of the explosive diahrea

[SheepGuy]

Originally Posted by MeatPounder

But that was mostly because of the explosive diahrea

Ohhh man... that's just wrong dude... funny, but way wrong

[nate]

Originally Posted by SheepGuy

Ohhh man... that's just wrong dude... funny, but way wrong

You havent been spending enough time at 4chan. Nothing is ever really wrong to a chantard.

6 foot hot blonde shemale fucking a 3 foot dwarf.

That's the stuff 4chan is made of and that's where I first saw a picture at least similar to the set you describe. When I showed my wife she almost fainted. It was epic LULZ.

On subject, good question. I imagine the "gay" fanbase is larger, but I'd think the shemale niche is underserved and maybe more enthusiastic. I've never had anyone tell me they were into "gay", but I've had a few tell me they were into asian ladyboys. I'd buy ladyboy porn before "gay" porn with just two normal looking guys doing sex stuff. But then again, I'm not "gay", just weird, so you should factor that into the equation.

Also, what are we supposed to call gay people now? Hetero-challenged? Fucking people need to quit running from words. I'm a hick, redneck, nerd, cracker, sometimes geek, hillbilly. Call me any or all of them.

[Cleo]

Originally Posted by nate

Also, what are we supposed to call gay people now? Hetero-challenged? Fucking people need to quit running from words. I'm a hick, redneck, nerd, cracker, sometimes geek, hillbilly. Call me any or all of them.

I believe gay for guys and lesbian for gals is PC but slang for straight folks would be breeders.
(gays and lesbians have to come from someplace)