new strange LL - www.mydogfarts.com??

[druid66]

Hi,
Maybe more than week ago i started to send freesites to new ll - www.weeklyfreeporn.com, they started to build they list... now (today) i see something like that: "This link list is now MyDogFarts.com" i checked weeklyfreeporn and the site is not exist any more just new one (mydogfarts) all sites i submit to weekly... was lost and they start new ll. can someone tell me what this guys/guy is about? i mean what they/he try to achieve?
druid66

[Surfn]

It's anyone's guess. It isn't unusual for some webmasters to screw people.

[Cleo]

I wonder if MyCatsFart.com is available? LOL

I remember someone posting some time ago that they had the domain name mydogfarts.com but can't remember anything about it beyond that.

Yeah what Surfn said.

[thrillho]

Ready for a blast from the recent past?

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...&threadid=7605

[Cleo]

|pissleft|

[dubb]

Hmm let me get this right. So he spams the hell out of everyone with a email saying please submit to my site because you have such a great site bla bla bla.

Then after a few weeks he redirects to mydogfarts.com. Whats the point of all the spamming for that site if he wasn't going to keep it up. Not sure if he owns this new one or not so can't say anything about that site, but I would tell those who submitted to weeklyfreeporn.com to check mydogfarts.com to see if your links are listed there. If so it might mean he owns it and used the submits he got from spamming people for this link list which might have needed more submits but didn't want to spam there own name. I dunno this is just a guess because I find it strange that someone would start a fake link list and do all that work just to get a few more submits to a new site.

Oh one more thing has anyone every talk to the owner of weeklyfreeporn.com ?

I tried to email him back but of courser it was blocked.

Then I thought about using his submit box to get a message to him but decided it wasn't worth my time.

This is a little interesting at the least I look forward to finding out his reasoning.

dubb

[Cleo]

Looks like Lucky482 needs a new nick
http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...8635#post28635

http://www.greenguysboard.com/board/...9746#post29746

[thrillho]

I would tell those who submitted to weeklyfreeporn.com to check mydogfarts.com to see if your links are listed there.

I did. They're not.

[Greenguy]

I'm very curious as to how you came up with the name, seeing as "Dog Fart" is a big interracal content producer & has a paysite.

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Greenguy
I'm very curious as to how you came up with the name, seeing as "Dog Fart" is a big interracal content producer & has a paysite.

Obviously mydogfarts won't be around that long either.

[druid66]

to get it straight:

- my sites wasn't moved to fartdog from weekly...
submitting there was waste of time, lucky i've done it only few days...

- guy dont answer an email i tried it...

isn't it should be considered as a activity worthy to be blacklisted?

[lucky482]

Hey Guys,

Let me explain the reason for this. First off mydogfarts.com is not a new link list. It was a link list I start out months and months ago and it was my first attempt at running a link list and really didn't know what I was doing. Also the domain is just a phrase that I thought was unique and unforgettable. It has nothing to do with the dogfart interracial series and I registered it long before I even heard of the dogfart series.

After that I start reading into SEO, read everything I could so that I could learn about how search engines works. I noticed that link list always came up high on SERP. So I decided to start a completely new link list (weeklyfreeporn.com) which the pages were optimized for search engines.

Now I admit that I did a stupid thing by hiring an outsource labor to offer partner accounts to webmasters. I did apologize for that. You can continue to flame me but I am still learning and learn as I go. Once again I am sorry for the emails.

Now the reason why I'm no longer running weeklyfreeporn.com is because after a month or so I notice that I'm not getting any google PR. After doing some trades with a friend who has good google ranking, he informed me that my domain might be penalized even though I just registered it and had nothing on it but a "coming soon" page. It is possible that it was an expired domain that has already been banned by google. I didn't realize that could be possible before I registered. That is why if you search for www.weeklyfreeporn.com or weeklyfreeporn.com google refuses to recognize the domain but when you click on "Find web pages that contain the term "www.weeklyfreeporn.com"", you can see that there are links to and from that domain. He explained that is how you can tell if a domain is penalized. (I'm still learning)

So to me there is no point in continuing with that link list if google is not going to list it. Then I notice that my old link list mydogfarts.com is already listed by google and is moving up fast on the terms "porn pictures" and "free porn pictures"

So that is why I redirected the submit page to my old link list mydogfarts.com which I will keep since it is going good. If you read the submit page you will see that I place a note for webmasters to remove the old recips because I didn't want you guys to get penalized by google for linking to weeklyfreeporn.

So I guess nothing I am doing is coming out right

[josho]

in my opinion, you shouldn't have removed that site so soon. i would wait 3 months at least.. well i would never remove it. sometimes it just takes that long to get listed. either way, one month is definitely not long enough to judge. you could also check on www.archive.org to see what was on that domain before you registered it.

[lucky482]

Originally posted by josho
in my opinion, you shouldn't have removed that site so soon. i would wait 3 months at least.. well i would never remove it. sometimes it just takes that long to get listed. either way, one month is definitely not long enough to judge. you could also check on www.archive.org to see what was on that domain before you registered it.

You think? Well it was like 2 months already and I didn't want to wait until there are lots of submits because then webmasters will have to re-submit too many sites. I just wanted to nip it in the bud now.

[druid66]

in my opinion one month is definitely not enough to get pr ranking, what about "google dance" which happens once per 3monts (or smth.)? and during it new "pr" are assigned. of course i may be wrong...

[Cleo]

Have you considered a career in another occupation lucky482 since you just seem to be pissing off people in this one.

Maybe you should try your hand at wood working in the great outdoors or the fine art of gourmet burger and fry preparing.

[dubb]

I think this was the worse time for you to take down your site because we are do for an update.

Also I see there are no IBL on your domain would explain no pr. You are indexed in google http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...weeklyfreeporn or at least you were before you took down all your stuff.

The upated of PR usally comes with the google dance so you have jumped the gun because you were impatient.

IMO

dubb

[Surfn]

Originally posted by Cleo
Have you considered a career in another occupation lucky482 since you just seem to be pissing off people in this one.

Maybe you should try your hand at wood working in the great outdoors or the fine art of gourmet burger and fry preparing.

I second that. Another option might be digging ditches.

[lucky482]

Originally posted by druid66
in my opinion one month is definitely not enough to get pr ranking, what about "google dance" which happens once per 3monts (or smth.)? and during it new "pr" are assigned. of course i may be wrong...

PR has nothing to do with it. Google dance is when the SERP gets re-ranked. The domain is penalized. Let me give you and example.

Example 1
A site that is listed in google.
If you go to google and type in: www.link-o-rama.com

You will see a link to link-o-rama and a description, which means this site is listed.

Example 2
A site that is not listed in google but is NOT penalized.
Type in any new domain or an unregistered domain such as:
www.blablablaxyz.com

You will see the following:
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Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.blablablaxyz.com

* If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: www.blablablaxyz.com
* Find web pages that contain the term "www.blablablaxyz.com"
---------------

The part where it says "* If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: www.blablablaxyz.com" means that the domain is not listed on google yet google reconizes it as a website and if the URL is valid you and follow the link and visit the website.

Now if you click on where it says "Find web pages that contain the term "www.blablablaxyz.com" you will find no information on the website because it is new and there are no links in or out.

Example 3
A site that is penalized by google.
This site is not mine but given to me to use as an example of a penalized domain.
Go to google and type in:
www.akcfug.org

You will see the following:
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Sorry, no information is available for the URL www.akcfug.org

* Find web pages that contain the term "www.akcfug.org"
---------------

Now you will notice that it doesn't have:
"If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: www.blablablaxyz.com" like the previous example. Which means google doesn't want to link to it.

However if you click on "Find web pages that contain the term "www.akcfug.org"
You will notice thousands of links in and out for that site.

This means that google knows of the website but refuses to recognize it in there database.

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Now if you type in www.weeklyfreeporn.com you will notice that there is no "If the URL is valid, try visiting that web page by clicking on the following link: www.weeklyfreeporn.com" which means google refuses to link to that top level domain.

If I am wrong, please prove me wrong. I may be new at running a link list but I have been doing seo for a while and have a few sites listed on top 10 on yahoo and google.

[lucky482]

Now nobody can be 100% sure if the domain is penalized except for google. The waybackmachine doesn't show any history of the domain. But it is safe to say it is. So if you were in my position would you rather wait months and months to figure it out, while trying to contact google with no response, while hundreds and hundreds of submits being queued or would you rather just have everyone re-submit to another link list which is already listed google. Since there hasn't been that many submits, I thought it would be best to have everyone submit to my another link list. I think it is better than the possibility of submitter's sites getting penalized for linking to weeklyfreeporn.com

[lucky482]

Originally posted by Cleo
Have you considered a career in another occupation lucky482 since you just seem to be pissing off people in this one.

Maybe you should try your hand at wood working in the great outdoors or the fine art of gourmet burger and fry preparing.

Thanks Cleo for the tip. But like I said, I am new at running a link list so I can't just quit now.

[DangerDave]

lucky482,

Your actions have damaged your reputation amongst submitters.. who are one of the most important parts of running a successful LL.

Your obsession with Google is also going to cost you in the long run.

If you want to believe that the domain is penalised.. then you can.. but the simple fact is that it isnt.

You seem to have taken some so-called"SEO" information, mixed it with a bit of voodoo and positive spin and ended up with some odd views on what happens and the timeline that Google follows.

Whoever is giving you advice needs to look at themselves too!


I assume that your aim is to run a successful linklist....? correct?

Well most of us who have our LL's ranked in high places in Google did not do it in 2 months.. So why you chose to kill your list after such a short time is beyond me.

Submissions and links are the things that make an LL successful not SE rankings.

If I was starting a new LL now.. I would be happy to wait 6 months if not more for some real return from it.. and for SE listings I would be happy to wait a year.

IMO you should sit back, and make a new plan with a more real timeline for success.

DD

[lucky482]

Dave,

I understand what you are saying and you are correct. However the fact is I was not expecting to rank high on google in two months. I know getting good ranking on SE takes a long time. I have sites that took forever to get to the top 10. But if google refuses to recognize your link list then what can I do but have submitters submit to a link list that googles does list. Submitters are submitting to get traffic. I feel that my link list should give them traffic while in return get some traffic back through recips as well as improve serp to get more traffic for everyone. Also please understand, the fact that there hasn't been that many submits on weeklyfreeporn. I would understand if there were thousands of submitters and all of a sudden, I redirect. But I have only been getting about 10 or so submits per day.

I also understand that I may have damaged my reputation with submitters but like I said I am new at running a link list. I haven't been running one for years like you or some of the other top link list here.

I learn as I go and learn new things from all comments, feedback, and even flames.

At least I am coming out and admitting all my mistakes and I am not just hiding.

[Cleo]

If I had spammed a bunch of webmasters and then found myself coming to a board to ask forgiveness the last fucking thing that I would have done is then delete and redirect all the sites that I had just spammed everyone for.

[lucky482]

Originally posted by Cleo
If I had spammed a bunch of webmasters and then found myself coming to a board to ask forgiveness the last fucking thing that I would have done is then delete and redirect all the sites that I had just spammed everyone for.

Trust me Cleo. That was the last thing I wanted to do. After all the time and effort I put into starting that link list, I didn't want to just redirect it. Also I didn't take down the site. I just redirected the submit until I find out what's up with the se.