Cheating is 1000% more than a year ago?

[Sculmaster]

Originally posted by Cleo
That is where you and I are different kristian, I see nothing wrong with working in the porn industry. If I had a child I would have no problem with them working in this industry when they were old enough and this is what they wanted to do.

I agree with Cleo. I am a dad with two kids and have been involved in the adult industry for the past 10 years. I have taught my kids that they can decide on what they want to do, but I have also tried to install certain values in their lives.

My choice - I work as a Pornmaster
Their choice - Whatever they feel comfortable with and would like to do once they are old enough.

My Dilemma - I have seen what this industry can do to people, and I would rather they do not enter this business!! would not want to see mu blue-eyed blond girl in a porn shoot, or have my son sit and wade through porn pictures, sponsor content or have to deal with all this crap from bulshit so-called webmasters.

[Fonz]

Originally posted by Tommy
I think it should be a small ONE TIME fee of 10 to 50 dollars for a submit account that allows maybe 4 to 5 submits a day

if you notice I said I wanted to charge new submiters not newbies.
just webmasters who dont have any submit history with me

1) The cheaters wont find it profitable anymore paying 50 bucks for each submit account that gets blacklisted after 2 days

2) your gonna see the name on the creditcard, so they cant keep signing up for new accounts pretending to be someone else

That might be something that could work

And let's say "someone I know" has submitted some freesites to you in the past but never got listed. Would that someone be considered a NEW submitter?

[bret]

Originally posted by dareutwo
At some point the Idea of the internet being FREE, will end. And I believe it will start in the Adult arena, where every other internet concept has developed.

"the internet" is not free.

You get a bill from your host.
Your host gets a bill from their provider.
Their provider gets a bill from their provider... They inturn get a bill from the electric company, telco, and numerous other companies.

even the end user gets a bill from their service provider.

as far as new developments. the adult industry likes to claim invention of, when infact at best, they created market for. vhs, dvd, various "internet developments". they adult industry may have been the first to make practicle use of certain developments, but actually doing the r&d, well they couldnt be further from. and the amount of concepts used by mainstream that started in adult, are few and far between. not industry bashing, just reality check.


to the topic at hand. i welcome paid submissions. as long as the list operators remove about 90% of the rules they have in place. most of which are to curb cheating.

if i am an approved paid account, i want to be able to use my paid advertising medium to it's full potential.

with paid submissions should come a wave of innovative and creative "free sites" and free listings. let's get away from these cookie cutter sites with cookie cutter advertising, which has become very ineffective, and get back to a flurishing industry, instead of a saturated & stale marketplace.

[RawAlex]

I feel bad for the honest webmasters in certain countries. I, like many link site owners, have been forced to block out IPs, hosts, ISPs and all other sorts of things to get rid of people who just can't follow the rules - and worse, are abusive of the system of TGP / link site listing.

If a site can handle 200 new listings a day, why should any one webmaster (or group) feel that 1000 submissions would be good? I closed down my TGP submissions a couple of years ago when I was getting almost 5k submits a day - to a TGP getting about 1k hits per day otherwise. In that 5k, more than half of them came from less than a handful of people.

Link sites put blocks, require code words, keys, type this code, whatever... and still the autosubmitters try to jam as many sites as possible into the review line. They don't give a shit that you don't want to review their sites, they don't give a rat's ass about your rules, they just want to get listed.

Then about half these bastards turn around and redirect surfers to dialers, auto downloads, malware, toolbars, and all sorts of other shit.

There is a small but agressive minority out there that is totally 100% fucking it up for everyone else.

It's sad.

Alex

PS: No, I won't tell you how I really feel!

[whitey]

The stunning thing to me is the number of long time, partner submitters who suddenly have been loading viruses and other nasty stuff onto their pages.

Times are tough and though times will separate those with character and those without. Those without will eventually find a new outlet for scamming or easy money. Right now, however, my tgps are being bombarded by scam submits, but I refuse to close the open submit on many of them - it is the source of future contacts and partners.