Auto submiters

[cam-amateurz]

Is purchasing an auto submiter from chemelion or advanced submmiter a good buy?
How much traffic can it send to my gallery.
IF i only submit 1 gallery a day will it be worth the purchase?

Whos had any luck with them?

[Joe]

It's definitely worth the money-- It makes an otherwise mundane and time-consuming effort quick, easy and fun (well, maybe not fun).

As someone said previously, it's the the program that will bring you traffic, it's you and your gallery.

If getting either Chamelon or AS, I'd recommend NOT auto-submitting, but rather using the program to organize your submit list and submit manually.

If you submit 1 gallery a day, you should be able to make your money back in no time.

[GeorgeTH]

Originally Posted by Joe

[...]
If getting either Chamelon or AS, I'd recommend NOT auto-submitting, but rather using the program to organize your submit list and submit manually.

submit manually? - excuse my ignorance, but on the other hand I'm actually really interested and seriously thinking about a subscription to Chameleon...

How do submit manually with these programs and still save time (as opposed to my method with RoboForm)?

If you feel like writing a detailed reply this might be almost a topic for the 'newsletter'...

Any enlightenment greatly appreciated!

[alvarez]

I using http://www.chameleonsubmitter.com/ 3 years and I'm 100 % satisfied ... CS is TGP/MGP firiendly because his database contains TGP/MGP rules, never fear with CS autosubmit

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by GeorgeTH

submit manually? - excuse my ignorance, but on the other hand I'm actually really interested and seriously thinking about a subscription to Chameleon...

How do submit manually with these programs and still save time (as opposed to my method with RoboForm)?

If you feel like writing a detailed reply this might be almost a topic for the 'newsletter'...

Any enlightenment greatly appreciated!

I'm using Advancedsubmitter for my Galleries, and I can submit to ~10-15 TGPs/LinkLists/LinkDumps/MGPs per Minute manually with My Databases, so that's still a bit slower than autosubmission, but fast enough for me and I can still make a short visual check at every submission Page.

I'm still not a fan of autosubmitting, cause I thing that it's more important to do the submission right than to do it fast. It's not a coincidence that most successful submitters are using the submission software mainly as a tool to support their handsubmission, or at least I've never heard of an autosubmitting webmaster who has done more than let's say $100 per day

But back to the "detailed Reply", basically I can only speak of submission tools like Advancedsubmitter and Dreamsubmitter to explain their usage to speed up the submission process, cause tools like Chameleonsubmitter, Russiansubmitter, Mightysubmitter, Gallerysubmitter, and whatever are mainly targeted towards pure autosubmission.
Basically a good submission software at first handles all your Recips, so it creates mirrors of the gallery, freesite, etc. with the proper Recips and handles the linking structure to these mirror pages.
Additionally it loads all submission pages and autofills all formfields you want to be autofilled during submission, so on every submission form you get fields like NAME, EMAIL, URL, short-long-medium-cap-blabla-DESCRIPTION, COMMENT, KEYWORDS, 2257 INFO, CATEGORY, PREVIEW THUMBS, THUMB UPLOAD, HUMAN PASSPHRASES (the Images with Code), Partner-USERNAMES, Partner-PASSWORDS and more filled.
Additionally to speed up the manual submission process some submission tools load up to 10 submission Pages at the same time, so you don't have to wait until every submission Page has loaded one by one, which saves again lot's of time. And f.e. Advancedsubmitter also uses some short-cut keys, so you'll not have to click around on the submission Page itself to load it and to submit your Page, you'd just have to hit ALT+X on your Keyboard to load the next 10 submission Pages, ALT+Q to browse through them 1-by-1 and ALT+F to submit your Page. So basically a good submission Tool with a good Database narrows your submission work down by sitting there, starring at the submission tools browser and hitting ALT+X, ALT+Q, ALT+F, ALT+Q, ALT+F, ALT+Q, ALT+F etc. etc. which makes the entire process rather quick.
And additionally you can still enable autosubmission with Advancedsubmitter and Dreamsubmitter, if hammering on your keyboard gets too boring

[Joe]

Originally Posted by GeorgeTH

submit manually? - excuse my ignorance, but on the other hand I'm actually really interested and seriously thinking about a subscription to Chameleon...

How do submit manually with these programs and still save time (as opposed to my method with RoboForm)?

If you feel like writing a detailed reply this might be almost a topic for the 'newsletter'...

Any enlightenment greatly appreciated!

What most people mean by "submitting manually" is allowing the program to auto-fill the forms, and the only manual part would be reviewing over the information and clicking Submit.

Easy as that.

[alvarez]

Originally Posted by Joe

What most people mean by "submitting manually" is allowing the program to auto-fill the forms, and the only manual part would be reviewing over the information and clicking Submit.

Easy as that.

yeah, right ..

[Ramster]

GeorgeTH
I use Advanced Submitter and it DEFINITELY saves time.

1-it builds ALL pages and inserts your recips. That alone saves time from cut and paste
2-it auto fills in the forms for you for all sites
3-it submits 10 TGPs at a time so all you do is click to each tab and make sure all the info is correct, make a quick change if needed and hit submit

It is 100% manually submit. No autosubmitting at all. All it does is saves you some time by making your pages and filling in the submit page fields and worth the $100 or whatever it is.

[selena]

Originally Posted by Ramster

GeorgeTH
3-it submits 10 TGPs at a time so all you do is click to each tab and make sure all the info is correct, make a quick change if needed and hit submit.

This item is what would save time over my method of using a combination of GASS and RoboForm. I'm able to do items 1 & 2 now.

I will say that I've heard so many good things about Advanced Submitter that if I get the time to play around with the free version I am going to.

[cam-amateurz]

Thanks allot everyone for your input I think that answers most of my questions.

Which is the best one out that that covers all the major tgps and mpgs?

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by cam-amateurz

Thanks allot everyone for your input I think that answers most of my questions.

Which is the best one out that that covers all the major tgps and mpgs?

I'm actually working ona new Database for the Free Trial Version of Advancedsubmitter, it's not really big cause it's free, but you'll get the Idea how everything works.
Hit me up on ICQ 344688791 or at webmaster(at)adultsponsortest.com if you wanna try a pre-release version out

[Useless]

Originally Posted by selena

I will say that I've heard so many good things about Advanced Submitter that if I get the time to play around with the free version I am going to.

If you decide to buy it, do yourself a flavor. Sign-up with their affiliate program and purchase it thru your link. Save some $$$

I purchased Advanced Submitter months ago and used it at least twice. It does make replicating galleries and manually submitting much faster. 'Tis a shame that I don't do much TGP type shit.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If you decide to buy it, do yourself a flavor. Sign-up with their affiliate program and purchase it thru your link. Save some $$$

At first I'd call that stealing, and for second I don't think that CCBill would be happy to see that an affiliate of theirs signs up with the same CC Info as the account Info.
I'm using Advancedsubmitter since the beginning, and I've purchased 3 copies by now, and always payed the full price, cause it's a good product and 100-times worth that $98 bucks.

[Useless]

Originally Posted by hjnet

At first I'd call that stealing

Good for you Can't see how it's theft. It's not taking anything without purchasing it.

Originally Posted by hjnet

...and for second I don't think that CCBill would be happy to see that an affiliate of theirs signs up with the same CC Info as the account Info.

Why would CCBill have my CC info outside of purchases? Since when you do give your CC# when you sign up to affiliate programs?

Originally Posted by hjnet

I'm using Advancedsubmitter since the beginning, and I've purchased 3 copies by now, and always payed the full price, cause it's a good product and 100-times worth that $98 bucks.

Again - good for you

[GeorgeTH]

Originally Posted by Ramster

GeorgeTH
I use Advanced Submitter and it DEFINITELY saves time.

1-it builds ALL pages and inserts your recips. That alone saves time from cut and paste

Since I have never tried one, but get plenty of autosubmitted galleries (where my recip link is usually grouped with 2 other P-sites[*] ), I wonder:
is there any way to tightly group the recip links? You know that age-old game: site A1 doesn't like to see their recip next to A2 or even B3 - with my manual codes I can group the 3 whichever way I feel is the best...

And I surely believe some listings only come down to finding the right combinations.

Anyhow: with most of my templates I have my own (programmed) way to replicate the pages - which probably doesn't take much longer. Otherwise my cut-n-paste probably takes the least time of all my submission work (~8-12 minutes), but I only submit to around 100-150 sites... I mostly spend time on images and thumbnails.
[*]= just reviewing one of your submissions, where my recip is on an m-p-s combination, so obviously not in simple alphabetical order

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

Good for you Can't see how it's theft. It's not taking anything without purchasing it.

Why would CCBill have my CC info outside of purchases? Since when you do give your CC# when you sign up to affiliate programs?

Again - good for you

Well, if you purchase through CCBill you're asked for your Name, Address, ZIP, Phonenumber, State, City and Country, might rise some fraud flags in their system when that info matches your affiliate info, but you can tell them later on that you don't think it's theft, maybe they see it as you

[alvarez]

[quote=Ramster]GeorgeTH
I use Advanced Submitter and it DEFINITELY saves time.

1-it builds ALL pages and inserts your recips. That alone saves time from cut and paste
2-it auto fills in the forms for you for all sites
3-it submits 10 TGPs at a time so all you do is click to each tab and make sure all the info is correct, make a quick change if needed and hit submit
QUOTE]


Chameleon has the same features ... and much more

[HappySmut]

Originally Posted by Useless Warrior

If you decide to buy it, do yourself a flavor. Sign-up with their affiliate program and purchase it thru your link. Save some $$$
.

haha i like how you think

[Mr. Blue]

Originally Posted by GeorgeTH

Since I have never tried one, but get plenty of autosubmitted galleries (where my recip link is usually grouped with 2 other P-sites[*] ), I wonder:
is there any way to tightly group the recip links?

The Advanced Submitter manual absolutely blows, it doesn't show half the things you need or at least it's so boring that you miss out on all the program can do.

I group recips based on traffic, because I think it's only fair if someone is sending me 1000 hits that they get linked with other places that send me 1000 hits, etc.

Here's what you do. You change the weight of the site, this will in turn group those recips together. Give unique weight number to the recips you want to pair up...so if you want xyz.com to be grouped with abc.com, give them both a weight number of like 1000, etc, etc. That's the way I group recips that deserve to be grouped together.

[Stouch]

Originally Posted by hjnet

Well, if you purchase through CCBill you're asked for your Name, Address, ZIP, Phonenumber, State, City and Country, might rise some fraud flags in their system when that info matches your affiliate info, but you can tell them later on that you don't think it's theft, maybe they see it as you

Dude, its not theft? He is purchasing it legitimately and is signing up as an affiliate. Whats the odds on him putting an advanced submitter link on his webmaster webpage which may lead to more business for AS?

Anyhow, back to the original question. The submitter is only as good as the person using it. If you have partner accounts you stand a lot more chance of getting hits so in that respect its similar to hand submitting.

If Im to assume that this is going to be a new aspect to your business then a submitter like Chameleon is going to be invaluable not because it submits to X amount of TGP's, but because it has an orderly database of sites. You can use this list to go through applying for partner accounts and then you will see the benefits.

Thats how I would play it personally, one step at a time to get the most from it.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Stouch

Dude, its not theft? He is purchasing it legitimately and is signing up as an affiliate. Whats the odds on him putting an advanced submitter link on his webmaster webpage which may lead to more business for AS?

I've never said that, I've said that it's wrong if he signs up as an affiliate and purchases the software through his own affiliate code to save $25, at least that's how I understood his statment "Sign-up with their affiliate program and purchase it thru your link. Save some $$$ "

But please enlighten me, what do you think that he meant?

[Ramster]

GeorgeTH
As already said yes you can group the recips by numbering them. Make shemp, tommy, ect a 1 and medium sites a 3 and smaller sites a 6. It puts the recips together based on that.

[GeorgeTH]

Thanks for clarifying a few things - very helpful!

It might just finally convince me
One last question (at least I hope so):
are these features (you mentioned) the same in Advanced Submitter and Chameleon?

And what's about all the others: Dreamsubmitter, German Schnaps (or whatever it's called), and so on...?

[Mr. Blue]

I don't use Chameleon...so I couldn't give a completely unbiased opinion, from what I've read though it isn't as flexible as Advanced Submitter.

The more time you spend with AS the more you learn all the stuff you can do with it. You can really customize submits down to putting the right pass / username by making site specific rules.

I know some people use AS to submit to LinkLists as well, I don't, but I'm tempted to see how it would handle generating the recip tables, etc.

[hjnet]

Originally Posted by Mr. Blue

I know some people use AS to submit to LinkLists as well, I don't, but I'm tempted to see how it would handle generating the recip tables, etc.

Basically the Niche based Recips are handled with a seperate entry for each Niche Recip for each LinkList.
so f.e.

link-o-rama-Amateur.....Amateur Recip...Amateur Submission Type

link-o-rama-Asian....Asian Recip...Asian Submission Type

Obviously that leads to ~50-70 entires per LinkList, so for 200 LinkLists that would mean more than 10,000 entires, so that's a lot of work to do